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I think kira can sneak into the black knight, collect information about Zero and when he suspicious, he put the death note somewhere safe and released the death note so he will forget everything..So even Zero use the geass power to know light identity, he wouldn't remember and then light will somehow will get his death note back since he already plan before he memory loss and kill Zero..

Actually, reading this makes me curious about something, and maybe I'm getting way too technical here, but I figure that I should present it anyway. This is purely hypothetical, but theoretically the memories that are sealed off by losing Death Note ownership are in fact, only sealed off, rather than erased entirely. If this is so, then can a Geass, which functions by altering brain waves, access those memories through its commands since it forces the subject to comply as completely as possible? Or does the fact that the memories are blocked off eliminate that?

I'm a bit biased, but I'm inclined to say it would work, which leaves interesting prospects for Lelouch making people remember Nunnally later in the series...

Any glaring holes in my logic I'm too tired to see?

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Any glaring holes in my logic I'm too tired to see?

The geass cant make people do the impossible, only give them orders, and since the memory loss is caused by the death god owner of the notebook (key word god) its probably safe to assume that no, geass can not trump death god powers, and Zero's geass wont be able to force people to remember things the death god doesnt wanted. Oh that and the translation I remember seeing was that the memories were erased, not sealed off.

Also I'm a little confused, some people seem to be implying that Kira would never find Zero because his geass is so hard to trace . . . but umm if Kira doesnt know who hes targeting from the start doesnt this make this whole thing kind of impossible? Granted they may not be aware of what each others powers are, but its kind of necessary that they have they general idea of who they are trying to kill . . . .

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The name Kouzuki Kallen can be easily found, as Xing-Ke demonstrated. Actually, almost all the other names too. Since Xing-Ke says he's interested in the Black Knights, he must know some of the other names like Toudou, Lakshata and Diethard.

Light could kill them all with one sentence. And Lelouch could have never made it this far without his crew.

Hell, Light can even kill Suzaku, and the Emperor with them. -.-

I would also like to add that Light can control people before they die. Therefore he can just write down the names of the Black Knights and just write "kill Zero"

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The name Kouzuki Kallen can be easily found, as Xing-Ke demonstrated. Actually, almost all the other names too. Since Xing-Ke says he's interested in the Black Knights, he must know some of the other names like Toudou, Lakshata and Diethard.

Light could kill them all with one sentence. And Lelouch could have never made it this far without his crew.

Hell, Light can even kill Suzaku, and the Emperor with them. -.-

I would also like to add that Light can control people before they die. Therefore he can just write down the names of the Black Knights and just write "kill Zero"

Yeah, that's true. So, that's actually checkmate in one/two moves. o_o

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The name Kouzuki Kallen can be easily found, as Xing-Ke demonstrated. Actually, almost all the other names too. Since Xing-Ke says he's interested in the Black Knights, he must know some of the other names like Toudou, Lakshata and Diethard.

Light could kill them all with one sentence. And Lelouch could have never made it this far without his crew.

Hell, Light can even kill Suzaku, and the Emperor with them. -.-

I would also like to add that Light can control people before they die. Therefore he can just write down the names of the Black Knights and just write "kill Zero"

wait i'm confused...wouldn't he need the real name in order to do thaat? or doesn't he?
cus if he does he deffinitly coulda just wrote ne detectives name and then wrote kill L

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The name Kouzuki Kallen can be easily found, as Xing-Ke demonstrated. Actually, almost all the other names too. Since Xing-Ke says he's interested in the Black Knights, he must know some of the other names like Toudou, Lakshata and Diethard.

Light could kill them all with one sentence. And Lelouch could have never made it this far without his crew.

Hell, Light can even kill Suzaku, and the Emperor with them. -.-

I would also like to add that Light can control people before they die. Therefore he can just write down the names of the Black Knights and just write "kill Zero"

wait i'm confused...wouldn't he need the real name in order to do thaat? or doesn't he?
cus if he does he deffinitly coulda just wrote ne detectives name and then wrote kill L

Writing down the detectives names then writing kill L would be impossible since to Light's knowledge no one had met L and he didn't know the detectives have met L until L revealed himself to Light. Now because L revealed himself to Light, if L died, then Light would immediately be found out as Kira. At least that's what I think.

Well, that would be impossible as well b/c the Death Note can't cause any collateral death unless you write that person's real name in the Note as well. For example, what he did in the movie w/ his girlfriend and that detective.

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First of all, can anyone tell me why they want to kill each other..

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B/c they both want the last cookie.

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The Great Battle of The Last Cookies would be title for this battle..

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Any glaring holes in my logic I'm too tired to see?

The geass cant make people do the impossible, only give them orders, and since the memory loss is caused by the death god owner of the notebook (key word god) its probably safe to assume that no, geass can not trump death god powers, and Zero's geass wont be able to force people to remember things the death god doesnt wanted. Oh that and the translation I remember seeing was that the memories were erased, not sealed off.

Also I'm a little confused, some people seem to be implying that Kira would never find Zero because his geass is so hard to trace . . . but umm if Kira doesnt know who hes targeting from the start doesnt this make this whole thing kind of impossible? Granted they may not be aware of what each others powers are, but its kind of necessary that they have they general idea of who they are trying to kill . . . .

It's actually erased then? I assumed it was just blocked off because it can be returned, but if the means is entirely supernatural then obviously the Geass can't do anything about something that isn't there.

I wasn't implying he wouldn't find Zero because his Geass is hard to trace, I'm implying that he wouldn't necessarily find out about the Geass because it's hard to trace, while the Death Note is obvious, leaving Lelouch with a trump card Yagami wouldn't predict, while Lelouch begins to work around the Death Note.

As for why they would fight, Zero is a masked terrorist. That's a pretty big target for the justice-obsessed Kira, even if some would call him a revolutionary instead.

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As for why they would fight, Zero is a masked terrorist. That's a pretty big target for the justice-obsessed Kira, even if some would call him a revolutionary instead.

But isn't Zero a hero of justice, wouldnt that make them like best friends? I'm gonna go with the cookie on this one. (Bet thats one tasty cookie)

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I see a lot of good arguments, but I throw this in: Kira has a limited number of pages, with some missing and others full. So the number of people he can kill/control are limited, whereas every hour a new person Zero can control is brought into the world.

So while Kira is writing between the lines in tiny script, Zero will still be controlling people. Just a thought.

Meh, they're both emo, so kira would write zero's name in the book right before a knightmare crushes kiras skull.

Happy end.

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zero beacuse only two people know who he is, one is dead and the other will be soon beyond that only the royal family know his real name and most are dead the others are a king or crippledand finally lelouch has a GIANT FREAKIN ROBOT so yeah...