That's why this topic is created.

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i know a good example for one, liquid_hell.

all my friends say milk taste good.
it taste seriously bad XP

if Adam and Eden did not defy god and listen to Satan and eat the apple.. we might have not be like this cruel right now. God will decide for us and everything, doesn't mean that we have no right to do anything. But you see, WHEN we have the right to do something, war starts up.

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On a recent article, it may be that Cow Milk is bad for humans. Logically, Cow milk is for Cow and Human milk is for Human. That's why I switched to Soy milk.

Also, if Adam and Eve did not eat the apple from the Tree of Knowledge, then we would be naive.

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@ liquid_hell
I'm not saying that you need to accept beauty as beauty and thats it blindly. I'm simply saying that the scientific thought can only take you so far. And when dealing with something so complex as God it takes something much more than that. I am definitely not knocking down science because thats actually my major but I think God is much more than anything humans could ever understand.

I don't wanna discuss believing or not anymore, people will believe what they want to believe. So no matter what anyone says they won't change their mind so easily unless their conviction was weak. The christian religion as it today is a joke. A million denominations all trying to get their congregation's money. Church is bigbusiness now actually. I can't believe people are stupid enough to give a portion of their salary to the church. The church can manipulate its masses like blind sheep whereever it wants. So the church has become a bad shepard imo. Also religion now is becoming a trend look at celebrities. What's up with that?

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we're just discussing and all.. it's just something to fill your brain.. but you can go if you want.

@Savantsage, yes... the first human pair and already ruined it for us.

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Since when did the Church became corrupt? Since ancient times. Guess what Inferno is about. Dante put the past Pope in Hell. Yeah, it's true, read Inferno.



According to the male dominant society from the past, Eve ruined us all.

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@chueisha Are you talking about the submission to fate? Do we forge our own fate even though God has created one for us?

I wanna pop a question (hopefully I don't get flamed) and it's just something I've been wondering: If God had created Adam and Eve, and he could tell the future and knew what would happen, why then did he create men who would destroy the world slowly? After all, he banished Eve from the Garden of Eden and forced her to pay for the sin of defying him. Is he not just making us live to pay for whatever had happened eons ago? The way I see it, death is the easy way out, and that's why we keep reproducing.

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Funny how a scientist would explain something with a scientific mindset... Don't worry, I won't debate all that.

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i don't know what my faith is and don't think i will ever know. All i know is that i will continue to live on until god want me to die. ^__^ Then another thing, if god doesn't want the human pair to eat the apple. And set it up that they won't eat it, then i don't think they would. Unless god set up the faith that they will eat it.

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I think that the american church today certainly does create a negative vibe, but I hope you won't judge all chuches like that. The institution of the Church like I think I said in a previous post is for us. We need the church as place to seek refuge and gather for worship and fellowship. But it is also a way of completeing the Great Commision which is to proclaim the good news of Christ to the Whole world. That there is hope to our sin and that God has freed us from sin and death. Speaking in a worldly way thats not cheap. It costs money to send missionaries abroad and to run the church, and provied different services to the community. Although many churches in america do give off the scent of big business I hope you won't hold that image over other churches that are really trying to serve God and his people.

I totally agree with you.
I personnally don't believe in god but i don't pretend to hold the ultimate truth either. Morality doesn't need to rest on any religion, it's a matter of how you perceive good or evil, which is rather defined by your culture. And i consider religion to be a personnal issue (my parents come from two different religions, neither being really a fervent believer. But i still see them both as good people).
If believing in god, whichever it is, can give you hope, it's a good thing anyway.

Well I think a better word for Faith is trust. I don't think adam and eve trusted God's word when he told them not to eat from that tree. God is a perfect being unstained by sin. When we sin we seperate ourselves from God. We tell him that our way is better than his way. But we sometimes forget that God is not our enemy. He loves us very much. When a mother tells her child not to touch the fire, she does it out of love not to dominate over the childs will. Our God is our heavenly Father and he wants whats best and that sometimes means we need to humble ourselves and ask who knows better God of me?

Heh if you like dante's inferno you will like Paradise lost by john milton. Also purgatory scares me a little bit. hehe.


@chue I never said I was leaving chue I said I didn' wann discuss believing in god or not. I don't mind talking about religion I just don't wanna argue whether he exists or not.

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i know a song that it said devil comes from heaven. it might be true because in satan case...

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