Believing in God
18 years ago
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If god was all powerful one thing I never understood is how come his greatest product failed in such a short time (adam and eve). Why'd he give them curiousity if it would only lead to their downfall 😕
THats a really really good question. BUt I think an even better one is why did he create us at all?
It's all part of the GRAND DESIGN. MUHAHAHA 🤣
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this is not about cannibalism...please get back on topic
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I think it is exactly the topic. I see nothing wrong.
18 years ago
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we can never be sure those who keeps on saying "i believe in god" and their appearance saying that they has no greed, selfish, and never lie for their greedness before. No one is perfect and that is true, and that is why we, the human, has 70% of Satan's part, the other 30% of god is trying to help us maintain our lives.
If you think Satan did not won, think about all those lives that had sacrifice because of us who listen to Satan and made wars.
Sacrfice entails that there was a point to their death. But I think those that trust and listen to satan over God are dying a very senseless Death. The gift of life is theirs for the taking if they want it.
18 years ago
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but mother can not do that so instead they use violence. And now whenever mother is out of hand we can always call the police.
I suppose I interpreted it wrongly then, because from my understanding of your statement, God set it up so that Eve would eat the apple, and get thrown out of Eden... I'm drawing parallels between the two situations and how God teaches us a lesson that sometimes we aren't as great as him. A child would touch fire no matter how many times a mother tells him not to. From what I gather: the basic presumption is that God is deliberately being cruel to be kind (assuming he meant to be kind since we could interpret it that God just wanted to be cruel).
Sorry if I come across too strong.
As flies to wanton boys are we to the gods,
They kill us for their sport
- King Lear, Shakespeare
18 years ago
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we can never be sure those who keeps on saying "i believe in god" and their appearance saying that they has no greed, selfish, and never lie for their greedness before. No one is perfect and that is true, and that is why we, the human, has 70% of Satan's part, the other 30% of god is trying to help us maintain our lives.
If you think Satan did not won, think about all those lives that had sacrifice because of us who listen to Satan and made wars.
Sacrfice entails that there was a point to their death. But I think those that trust and listen to satan over God are dying a very senseless Death. The gift of life is theirs for the taking if they want it.
and of course, everyone denys saying "i believe in god!" just so they can be looking good and nice. NOPE, i am certain in their heart they have greed and selfishness. I am also one of them ^__^ But i do not go overboard and kill people ect. A small lie can also make a big huge mistake.
@liquid_hell, you see i think faith was made by god. And so it is his choice to make us born, his choice to make us being pervert 😛 . his choice to make us die. Also his choice for what time what day we will born, die, ect. Yes i am thinking he made Eve does that.
18 years ago
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If god was all powerful one thing I never understood is how come his greatest product failed in such a short time (adam and eve). Why'd he give them curiousity if it would only lead to their downfall 😕
THats a really really good question. BUt I think an even better one is why did he create us at all?
Because god is a little boy with a magnifine glass. Or maybe he's more like a little boy with an ant farm? God was probably bored.
18 years ago
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XD nice way of putting it, sirgir. He was.
As flies to wanton boys are we to the gods,
They kill us for their sport
- King Lear, Shakespeare
18 years ago
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but mother can not do that so instead they use violence. And now whenever mother is out of hand we can always call the police.
I suppose I interpreted it wrongly then, because from my understanding of your statement, God set it up so that Eve would eat the apple, and get thrown out of Eden... I'm drawing parallels between the two situations and how God teaches us a lesson that sometimes we aren't as great as him. A child would touch fire no matter how many times a mother tells him not to. From what I gather: the basic presumption is that God is deliberately being cruel to be kind (assuming he meant to be kind since we could interpret it that God just wanted to be cruel).
Sorry if I come across too strong.
Well I would just ask you to empathise with the Child in my example. If your mother told you not to touch the fire, and you believed that you could touch and nothing would happen. I think you would agree with me that touching fire with your bare hands is not an enjoyable thing. The Child unfortunately needed to learn the hard way that touching fire with his bare hands is not good. And if the child thinks a bit to the past that his mother had told him not to. But your not too far off on the idea of comparing to eve. I think she is the child and the apple was the fire.
18 years ago
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Because god is a little boy with a magnifine glass. Or maybe he's more like a little boy with an ant farm? God was probably bored.
Hey! I was about to say that one. The bored part at least. 🤢
18 years ago
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Hey gir I already used the ant farm one at the beginning of the thread haha. I just don't understand his logic sometimes could it be that god's just this ogre or perhaps a little kid with a snowglobe containing the universe and he's always shaking it just to see what happens lol. Too much innocents suffer for me to say that god is merciful and compassionate.
18 years ago
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Hey gir I already used the ant farm one at the beginning of the thread haha. I just don't understand his logic sometimes could it be that god's just this ogre or perhaps a little kid with a snowglobe containing the universe and he's always shaking it just to see what happens lol. Too much innocents suffer for me to say that god is merciful and compassionate.
I know I have said this before but are you sure that God is to blame for these supposedly innocent people dying.
18 years ago
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and so that is why we are wondering if he exist or not. because we can not understand him xDD
well, ... erm... i think god made the choice of everything. And we are just the objects of his choice, or better yet fancy words like "children of his".
18 years ago
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and so that is why we are wondering if he exist or not. because we can not understand him xDD
And with this one you've nicely come full circle.
18 years ago
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and so that is why we are wondering if he exist or not. because we can not understand him xDD
well, ... erm... i think god made the choice of everything. And we are just the objects of his choice, or better yet fancy words like "children of his".
I don't think anyone can fully understand God he is far too complex. But I would hope that you would atleast trust in that he is loving and that he really wants to be a part of your life if you would let him.
18 years ago
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It's his master plan isn't it and also if he's all powerful why let it continue cause someone I never met ate an apple from a tree I never heard of? That's just malicious and vindictive and why does a god harbour a 2000 year grudge on the decendants of the decendants. That's just dumb i'm sorry if you're too whatever in love with his wonder to see reality but that's just common sense my friend.
18 years ago
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yes i like running around in a circle like TEPPI! xDD
well, the complex he is that is why he is a god. God is not easy for us to understand.... but i still wonder.
