Random Questions "Attempt II"
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Microsoft sold its soul for the
lechebraun's gold.
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Microsoft sold its soul for the
lechebraun's gold.
That's called capitalism buddy!
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this is not about cannibalism...please get back on topic
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I think it is exactly the topic. I see nothing wrong.
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Microsoft sold its soul for the
lechebraun's gold.That's called capitalism buddy!
Nope... it's called monopoly.
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Microsoft sold its soul for the
lechebraun's gold.That's called capitalism buddy!
Nope... it's called monopoly.
uhhh....monopoly is part of capitalism......
anyway back on the subject..........so like no one installed the window 7 beta on their pc yet?
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this is not about cannibalism...please get back on topic
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I think it is exactly the topic. I see nothing wrong.
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hey anyone tried the Window 7 beta yet?
Not personally....
But from what I'm reading at the tech discussions.... Windows fanboys think it's great, Linux fanboys think it's crap, Mac fanboys are too busy applying make-up to care.... and the neutral parties are skeptical, but still think it's better than Vista.
My cousin, tried the preview and says it's the best thing from Microsoft yet. And Vista isn't bad, I like it. People who say they don't like it are the ones that don't know how to fully use all the features available ( you'd be surprised at what you're capable of doing), or the ones that tried being slick and installed a stolen/rigged copy only to have it not work after a certain period of time, or well they just don't like change. But I think I'll stick with Vista until I actually have a chance to try Window 7.
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hey anyone tried the Window 7 beta yet?
Not personally....
But from what I'm reading at the tech discussions.... Windows fanboys think it's great, Linux fanboys think it's crap, Mac fanboys are too busy applying make-up to care.... and the neutral parties are skeptical, but still think it's better than Vista.My cousin, tried the preview and says it's the best thing from Microsoft yet. And Vista isn't bad, I like it. People who say they don't like it are the ones that don't know how to fully use all the features available ( you'd be surprised at what you're capable of doing), or the ones that tried being slick and installed a stolen/rigged copy only to have it not work after a certain period of time, or well they just don't like change. But I think I'll stick with Vista until I actually have a chance to try Window 7.
No offense... but I don't classify an OS that thrashes your hard drive for a whole minute or two after boot-up (Vista) as slick..... and the amount of people who've called me to help with their problems (they have pretty powerful systems and original copies) says otherwise as well. I have photographer friends who say Vista always screws up their color management..... and FYI, that "best thing from Microsoft yet" slogan has been brandished around for every single version of windows since 95.
I see Win7 as more of a Service Pack for Vista which Microsoft will charge it's customers for, just like what Apple is doing with the upcoming Snow Leopard.... it's tantamount to daylight robbery, especially in the current financial climate.
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I hope Window 7 can bring up Microsoft's reputation and beat back the Linux freaks and the Mac weirdos.
I doubt that will happen, regardless of how good/bad Win7 is.
Linux freaks and Mac weirdos have totally different priorities. Like me, for example.... most of the programs I run are Linux only or work better on Linux if they're multi-platform types. Same goes for my OSX programs (mainly color management software and Corel Painter X)
At the end of the day, it's the software you run and your workflow that dictates your OS choice. Give me a Win OS that can run Inkscape or CinePaint better than Linux/BSD can, and I'll change..... until then, I'm afraid my answer to windows will be the same "No Thanks" since 98.
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Now I have a question for all you tech people..... when is USB 3.0 officially coming out?... I know the draft spec has been announced already, but I wanna know when I'll start seeing it on motherboards and notebooks.... all the tech discussions seem to give different time frames... even Intel's.
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Vista is for people with good PC's
However for the people that have non gaming PC's and just use them for search the net and download crap vista is BAD
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Vista is for people with good PC's
However for the people that have non gaming PC's and just use them for search the net and download crap vista is BAD
Not necessarily true~
I'm not a gamer & I don't think my PC is especially "good" - it was on sale at Office Depot last May, if that tells you anything 🤣 - but Vista is fine for me. The key, I have heard, is to have at least 2 GB of memory. If you have less, then you've got enough memory to run Vista but not much else.
"[English] not only borrows words from other languages; it has on occasion chased other languages down dark alley-ways, clubbed them unconscious and rifled their pockets for new vocabulary."
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and how much mem do you think a person that has a computer just for basic crap has? 1 GB is more than enough for most of the things that you are going to use, and when Vista hit the market (a few years ago) 2 GB of memory was way above of the average user, as thus only Gamers had enough specs to run vista... now is different.
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and how much mem do you think a person that has a computer just for basic crap has? 1 GB is more than enough for most of the things that you are going to use, and when Vista hit the market (a few years ago) 2 GB of memory was way above of the average user, as thus only Gamers had enough specs to run vista... now is different.
The only reason I have 2 GB on mine is because I actually did some research before buying a new comp so I knew that I needed 2 GB to run Vista - and from what I remember, it was clear pretty early on that the 2 GB was needed. (Vista's two year anniversary will be on Jan. 30 2009, btw, so it hasn't been out all that long.)
ANYway, I haven't had any real problems with Vista, but won't be changing to anything else unless/until it's necessary.
"[English] not only borrows words from other languages; it has on occasion chased other languages down dark alley-ways, clubbed them unconscious and rifled their pockets for new vocabulary."
-James Nicoll, can.general, March 21, 1992
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Vista is for people with good PC's
And that's the truth of the matter. If you don't know wat FAT32 or NTFS means, then stay far away from vista.
If you do, then you actually have to do some of your own work to get your computer to run properly because exFAT may cause some problems with programs designed for the older ones.
In other words... Vista takes money, and more importantly time...
which for some reason people want to spend watching tv. 😐
Yes, Vista works great for me. I pretty much explained why.
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And that's the truth of the matter. If you don't know wat FAT32 or NTFS means, then stay far away from vista.
Should I be backing away from my computer right now, then?? Because I have Vista, but no clue what either of those are. 🤣 🙄
Seriously, if you don't know much about computers, ask people who do know about computers, and get them to explain the essence in words you understand so you end up with something usable that won't give you fits. It may take a little time & effort - and yeah, you may have to admit your ignorance - to get the tech-speak translated into something useful to a non-tech, but it's nowhere near as much effort as trying to work with a system that can't do what you need it to do.
When I got my new comp, it was because my old one croaked - fried the motherboard. I called around for the cheapest computer that I could find that had the 2 GB of memory for Vista (since getting a comp with anything but Vista would have been both more expensive and less convenient), and just told the tech guys the kind of stuff I do on the computer & asked what I needed in order to do that. Did that at 3-4 places, got basically the same answer everywhere as far as what I needed, and bought the cheapest one - no problems so far, and very minimal technical knowledge required.
Depending on what people are doing, there may be issues that I just haven't run into, but I'd be surprised if they can't generally be solved in pretty much the same way, or by googling.
Come on people, let's not make things more complicated/difficult than they need to be. 😐
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And that's the truth of the matter. If you don't know wat FAT32 or NTFS means, then stay far away from vista.
Should I be backing away from my computer right now, then?? Because I have Vista, but no clue what either of those are.
They're file systems. The default windows type is NTFS, and most flash memory is FAT32 (also found on older windows systems.) Unless you're doing something really wonky* with your vista install, it really shouldn't matter if you know the underlying file structure. (Actually, the same is basically true in linux, where you get like six options and it only really matters if you care enough to research the difference.)
*like trying to import files stored in a non-windows system, and then you should be familiar with file types anyway
If you do, then you actually have to do some of your own work to get your computer to run properly because exFAT may cause some problems with programs designed for the older ones.
That's not really vista's fault though, as it's really expensive to work well with every past technology. And microsoft recommends you stick with NTFS on vista, so you shouldn't be using exFAT anyway. It was designed for embedded systems and the like because it's really efficient for those systems, but those are also the systems that tend to have custom code.
I called around for the cheapest computer that I could find that had the 2 GB of memory for Vista (since getting a comp with anything but Vista would have been both more expensive and less convenient)
I don't get why Vista gets hammered for requiring 2 gigs, as that's not the expensive. I desperately want to run a VM and I can't do that with less than 2 gigs (probably 3) regardless of the OS and anything CPU intensive wants 2 gigs (and that's what I put in a build that's 5 years old and totally outdated.)
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Vista is for people with good PC's
And that's the truth of the matter. If you don't know wat FAT32 or NTFS means, then stay far away from vista.
If you do, then you actually have to do some of your own work to get your computer to run properly because exFAT may cause some problems with programs designed for the older ones.In other words... Vista takes money, and more importantly time...
which for some reason people want to spend watching tv. 😐Yes, Vista works great for me. I pretty much explained why.
Yes, Vista takes money and forced people to upgrade their computers, even if they really didn't need such an upgrade, I am a believer that your computer should be as high tech as you need it to be... because lets face it, a thousand dollars processor today is going to be the 50% Off out dated processor in the future (a matter of months not years), why assemble or buy a monster PC if you are going to play NES mario in it? I guess is because I hate to waste money, but you should get my point... I am fine with Linux and XP so leave me be
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No offense... but I don't classify an OS that thrashes your hard drive for a whole minute or two after boot-up (Vista) as slick..... and the amount of people who've called me to help with their problems (they have pretty powerful systems and original copies) says otherwise as well. I have photographer friends who say Vista always screws up their color management..... and FYI, that "best thing from Microsoft yet" slogan has been brandished around for every single version of windows since 95.
I see Win7 as more of a Service Pack for Vista which Microsoft will charge it's customers for, just like what Apple is doing with the upcoming Snow Leopard.... it's tantamount to daylight robbery, especially in the current financial climate. as more of a Service Pack for Vista which Microsoft will charge it's customers for, just like what Apple is doing with the upcoming Snow Leopard.... it's tantamount to daylight robbery, especially in the current financial climate.
Yeah I have heard that many system crashed because of Vista even when having the original copy, so I take that back. But I still like Vista mainly because of the many features it offers, in my case it's rather helpful with the kind of work I do. I can't say much though since I've never had problems with Vista and even if I did I'm pretty sure I know how to fix such problems, since I'm rather skilled in that department, either way I'm sticking with it.
And well from what I've heard Win7 does sort of seem like a service pack for Vista, like others have said it's probably just to boost the bad reputation it gained from Vista to make it seem 'better', that in itself makes it an easy target for those who liked Vista or those who didn't. Proof shown from when Vista first came out and it already received bad reviews but it didn't seem like many cared and they still tried it (at their own risk), but later finding out how 'bad' it was, they started hating it. But that doesn't seem like it's going to stop the same kind of people from trying Win7...and the cycle will repeat itself...which is also shown through forums that are discussing it and debating on how good or bad it is; but it seems people are willing to try it either way. And if it really is an improvement from Vista well that makes it all the better. Anyway that's just my opinion.
