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This organization is absolutely horrible and makes no sense. If this is how baka-updates is going to be organizing their manga, then I would like to know why ALL series with prequels and sequels are not all grouped together under one page. Why is Sakyou Aya's Kuroneko series separated into individual pages. Combining those together would make more sense than this monstrosity because they at least all have the same title pattern and protagonists...
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This organization style will keep new fans from enjoying it and keep current fans from being informed about the status of the series they are following. It should be reverted back. The admin who refuse to revert it back and covered up the criticism obviously has a God complex. Learn to accept and grow from criticism. Sometimes your great idea fails when tested by the real world.
Thank you! And I absolutely wholeheartedly agree. I think I saw red when I noticed how they had merged all the series together. Not only is it disorganized and needlessly confusing; almost all of the reviews written for each separate volume are gone. Why didn't they bother to at least keep those and transfer them over to this page?
Why is Warui getting this treatment when I've come across
several one-shots with their own page when in fact they're part of a [separately] listed volume that hasn't been fully scanlated? Where are our diligent admins then? I'll repeat again since admins continue to ignore this fact; each of these stories are distinctively separate. They are interconnected, but only in the most casual manner. It is not written in a way where it's integral that you have knowledge of the other series to be able to read the other. If anything, each series should have their own separate page and be listed as spin-offs. One for Warui, one for Ja Nai Kedo, one for Mujiha, etc. I've read
many BL stories with this same framework where characters share the same world and setting and absolutely
none of them were merged into one page. All of them listed each correlating series as spin-offs, which makes much more sense than the current mess Warui is in now.
What makes it worse is that almost of these series are ongoing and it's a nightmare trying to sort who's scanlating what. Tons of extras and drama CDs get scanlated during this period, so good luck to any noob trying to figure out the timeline for those extras.
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YES the page is absolutely confusing, and while I credit the person who is attempting to clear it up on the page, it is severely off-putting to any reader and I can stake money that it's much moreso for a new reader. Most people are lazy readers and they're not going to bother to sift through that mess to figure things out. I remember when I first started reading yaoi and was slightly confused about the numbering format for this series. Luckily, the series was still in its early stages and I could follow the sequel tags that came with each page. Why are admins making people's ability to follow this series that more complicated/difficult? What are two more separate pages for the sake of clarification and convenience when you have tons of uncategorized one-shots clogging up your system?
I do have to wonder about the admin who is behind this drastic and unreasonable change. Absolutely nothing about the way they've merged everything makes sense but I see that continued complaints and objections by readers are falling on deaf ears.
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Whine, whine, whine, whine, whine, whine, whine. -____-
How is this not easier for new readers? I just showed my husband (who hasn't read any of this) and asked him is the page confusing at all. He said no, it's not.
Because it isn't!
Having it all on one page is more convenient.
I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. If we're talking about listing the series so it's in a form where readers can understand the overall hierarchy, then I could understand your point. However, MU isn't solely about providing information about the series; it's also about providing
scanlation information too, and this whole page is a huge clusterf*ck if you're trying to figure that out. More than one scanlation group has worked on one of these series, and some of them have their own extras/papers that they've scanlated. If someone wanted to figure it out, I'm sure they could, but why does it have to be that way when there are far simpler ways of listing each series so that it's much, much easier to understand?
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As much as you guys keep saying it's a stand alone. No, it's not. They do interconnect. (Can you read them alone? Yes. Should you? Probably not.)
If you don't like a couple, that's fine if you want to skip over them, but should you? Probably, not.
They're not interconnected in any significant way that makes it important to read the other series to know what's going on in the other. I've read all of the works except for Warui and it doesn't diminish my reading experience in the least not knowing what happens in Warui because I'm fairly certain nothing significant happens in Warui that will affect my reading of Kirai ja Nai Kedo for instance. And none of the characters in the _ ja Nai Kedo series even show up in the Mujihi na _ series and Shinonome is only briefly mentioned Shouwaru Ookami ga Koi o Shita Rashii.They share the same setting and the same "world" but they can be read as standalones. Again, I've read many other BL series with this same type of "interconnectedness" and none of them have had their page massacred like this one. They all had separate pages for sequel volumes and spin offs (i.e. Kuroneko).
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I still don't see what the big deal is with having separate pages. Most of what's out is already completely scanlated. I'm sorry you have to use your brain and read a bit more before reading the manga.
Such a terrible thing right? Reading more than you should. How absurd !!!
You're missing the point, it's not only inconvenient, it's unnecessary. It's singled out in a sea of many other series that could legitimately but put into this same format and it'd make much more sense than what has been done with all four of these titles.