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Post #223774 - Reply To (#223765) by Dr. Love
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Quote from Dr. Love

But as you long as you live, you will feel pain.

That's a fact of life. Trying to hide away from the pain,
by marrying an imaginary character is superficially reasoned.

😮    

That doesn't mean I object it though.
If they feel comfortable with their choice, that's all that matters.

yes, all living things will feel pain but there is another option and it is turning pain into pleasure. I think even this guy himself who has chosen an imaginary girl over a real one, knows the limits of his choice but still he is willing to give it a try and turns it into a pleasure. I guess it is kind of brave of him, oddly sweet and brave.

lol, personally I refuse to submit to pain, no matter what. (no wonder I hate S & M 🤢 ) once I heard some where pain is just a illusion of mind, such as life itself. lol. 😛


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Post #223775 - Reply To (#223774) by Ameonna
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Quote from LillithGloria

Quote from Dr. Love

But as you long as you live, you will feel pain.

That's a fact of life. Trying to hide away from the pain,
by marrying an imaginary character is superficially reasoned.

😮    

That doesn't mean I object it though.
If they feel comfortable with their choice, that's all that matters.

yes, all living things will feel pain but there is another option and it is turning pain into pleasure. I think even this guy himself who has chosen an imaginary girl over a real one, knows the limits of his choice but still he is willing to give it a try and turns it into a pleasure. I guess it is kind of brave of him, oddly sweet and brave.

Let's imagine that I diss his "wife" as a manga character and he'll be like:
"What did you just call my dear wife!?" and stab me to death.
That is not too brave and sweet, that is insane.


Post #223780 - Reply To (#223775) by Mamsmilk
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Quote from Mamsmilk

Quote from LillithGloria

Quote from Dr. Love

But as you long as you live, you will feel pain.

That's a fact of life. Trying to hide away from the pain,
by marrying an imaginary character is superficially reasoned.

 😮     

That doesn't mean I object it though.
If they feel comfortable with their choice, that's all that matters.

yes, all living things will feel pain but there is another option and it is turning pain into pleasure. I think even this guy himself who has chosen an imaginary girl over a real one, knows the limits of his choice but still he is willing to give it a try and turns it into a pleasure. I guess it is kind of brave of him, oddly sweet and brave.

Let's imagine that I diss his "wife" as a manga character and he'll be like:
"What did you just call my dear wife!?" and stab me to death.
That is not too brave and sweet, that is insane.

man, now that is what people call real drama in action! 🤣 hahaha, I wanna see you do it and I want to see the reaction of the husband too. 😛 don't miss the point: what is not real for you, is ALIVE for some one else. and every one see and judge the world through their own POV so if he stabs you, it doesn't seem that insane to me. (not like I wanna see any one get stabbed! 😀 noway, I hate violence! and I cant stand blood either! 🤢


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The persocom comparison was quite good, ficsci, but there is a fundamental difference in that the persocom is at least a physical- 3D object that to you is (supposedly) not replaceable even with a perfect copy. The anime character is not attached to anything- if I decided to draw something now and incidentally came out appearing similar to some famous anime character- since I am a fan of clamp and my drawing style often mimics them, maybe my drawing looks like sakura from Tsubasa Chronicles- does that mean what I drew is the wife of some guy over in the pacific somewhere? And idea is purely in oneself. It is what was said quite a while ago about marrying your mind- though come to think of it, if you have a split personality, it might actually work.

The other thing I would like to comment on is what Dr.Love was saying about people having thoughts and emotions- I do not disagree with what you said, I personally think that marrying a "2D girl/boy" is probably something extremely painful but I disagree about the reason. Rhetorically speaking, thought processes are only important in relationships because of how they cause people to act, they have no intrinsic quality as they are not communicated- only actions, words, language, etc... can be communicated that which appeals to the senses of the other person and the shortfall of the 2D character is not that it has no appeal- it obviously does as you can see it hear it and maybe touch it if you have models or something...- anyway, this all bing to say that living humans only have more dynamic and variety and are, thus more variable and react to what you communicate. It is not so much because they are people though- persocoms, for example would have a similar effect.

2D characters are not very smart and do not have many ways of communicating things but I think it is rather superficial to think that humans are any different as you can not perfectly understand a human- you only understand surface communications which is, fundamentally not much different from anything else you react to- including pictures and voice actors.


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Lawl. This is one of things that is on my 'U Fail' list. XD
The only way possible for you to marry a 2D character is for you to make a 2D version of yourself and you continue the plot, but that would take time since if someone else is helping you draw or write the story then it wouldn't be yours, right? So its literally impossible and stupid.


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Post #223793 - Reply To (#223789) by Harukko
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Lawl. This is one of things that is on my 'U Fail' list. XD
The only way possible for you to marry a 2D character is for you to make a 2D version of yourself and you continue the plot, but that would take time since if someone else is helping you draw or write the story then it wouldn't be yours, right? So its literally impossible and stupid.

stupid? how come it is stupid? why it is impossible? even if a group of 100 artists help me to create my own characters and draw their story, as long as the original plot line and idea about the characters are MINE the story will be recognized to be my realm.

it is like sailing a ship. you may have a big groups of professional sailors who are helping through your works but the Capitan of the ship and the only one who knows where the ship goes and how it should go is YOU.


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When I was little, I wanted to marry a pizza.

I think this man is very sad and should be allowed to marry his pixels/paper and ink. I don't want him procreating in any way.


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Actually what Harukko is saying may have a grain of sense... When you are dealing with a person- your spouse in this case, what you do (the plot line) is created by the interactions between you two- it is thus the story of your married life, what is important in a marriage, if you let someone else draw up the plan (or in this case it would similar to getting someone to take your place and do what you tell them to do) there is a rather different goal in the "marriage"- as it is not really "you" married to the person/thing but rather a group of people thinking about a hypothetical situation. That is not really a marriage- at least not what I see a marriage to be. Of course, I think the guy making the petition in the article wasn't exactly thiking of drawing a manga about his married life with some character anyway...


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Quote from Yeran

I think this man is very sad and should be allowed to marry his pixels/paper and ink. I don't want him procreating in any way.

[img]http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg11/KingCalliber/SLAP_FIVE_by_captainosaka.jpg[/img]
There's no way I could POSSIBLY agree with you any more.


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This is stupid. This is stupid. This is stupid.

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Lol

Well this will be a hard ball for some of you, but consider this.

Gay Marriage: Why do people oppose it? because their core values say that marriage = the union between a man and a woman.

Most of the people in favor of Gay marriage (at least those that are not gay) think Marriage = to the union between two people that love each other.

So using those facts can we actually agree or disagree with this guy?

I mean there is no way the 2D will love him back, unless someone starts to create a real computer AI (not the crap that has been created) and gives the 2D characters the ability to agree or disagree (love = the mad release of things like endorphin, etc) so AI can't feel love... maybe simulate it -- errrr anyway, just think about it >> 😲


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I'd hate to see the battle for characters like Rei Ayanami if ever this were to be legal.


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Post #225926 - Reply To (#223943) by Chaoswind
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Quote from Chaoswind

Lol
I mean there is no way the 2D will love him back, unless someone starts to create a real computer AI (not the crap that has been created) and gives the 2D characters the ability to agree or disagree (love = the mad release of things like endorphin, etc) so AI can't feel love... maybe simulate it -- errrr anyway, just think about it >> 😲

The thing is, can he actually say that he really loves this 2-D character? I just don't think is possible for you to be in love with someone who you haven't interacted with; it just doesn't make sense.


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Quote from Sleepy_Sheepy

I'd hate to see the battle for characters like Rei Ayanami if ever this were to be legal.

🤣 That would be very entertaining. I can just imagine a reality show for that~


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I read a story once about an indian man marrying a Barbie doll with the spirit of his dead lover or something inside.
There's lots of wierdness going on in the world.
Why, just the other month, another indian woman married a snake!


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