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Nah, I don't think that's it. 🤣 😛

He already had Vaizard powers when he trained with Urahara and jumped out of that deep well(?). Though they were still dormant. But gradually during the SS arc, the Hollow inside him became stronger until he couldn't control it anymore. That was the period when Shinji approached him.

And whether Urahara knew that or not, that he would become a Vizard. I don't know. But he probably would have, I think. Since it's rather an unconventional way of attaining your Shinigami powers. Maybe due to forcibly gaining his Shinigami powers while he was still human, he got Vizard powers with it?

Tite hasn't fully explained that yet. >.<

I dont think it has to do with forcibly gaining his Shinigami powers, I think it would more have to do with him transforming into a hollow at the same moment he awakened his powers as a Shinigami, therefore he became both.

Oh yeah, that could be it. 🤣 My memory was a bit fuzzy about that, and was too lazy to re-read the chapter. @_@

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I dont think it has to do with forcibly gaining his Shinigami powers, I think it would more have to do with him transforming into a hollow at the same moment he awakened his powers as a Shinigami, therefore he became both.

yeah, that maybe how ichigo became to be a vaizard but may not be true for other vaizards since the vaizards already are a shinigami in the first place.

If I were the rain.....
Could I ever merge with somebody's heart,
Like the way the rain merges the sky and earth,
Never meant to connect...

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I dont think it has to do with forcibly gaining his Shinigami powers, I think it would more have to do with him transforming into a hollow at the same moment he awakened his powers as a Shinigami, therefore he became both.

yeah, that maybe how ichigo became to be a vaizard but may not be true for other vaizards since the vaizards already are a shinigami in the first place.

Yeah, but that wasn't your question. You just asked about Ichigo.

And let Isshin answer your current question.

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ok i got a few....
if Nnoitra doesent like women being higher up than he is...

why hasent he went after Halibel yet?

and, what type of hollow are the espada
like, how

Aaroniero was a gillian class, and i imagian that Ulquiorra is a Vasto lorde then what are the others classes in your op...

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For your first question:

A) Halibel is too strong for him. Considering that Nell was 3, while Nnoitora was 8, a 5-number gap. It might be -- now Nnoitorra is number 5 -- that Halibel's number 1. And you don't mess with Nr. 1. 🤣

B) She isn't emotionally attached to her Fraccion, and Nnoitorra knows it. So he can't use them to make her unguarded like he did with Nell.

C) He's on bad terms with Syazel. Because he could have never defeated Nell without his help. (I wonder though why Syazel wanted Nelliel gone...)

D) He got over his inferiority complex against women with a higher position? xD This one's a joke...

There are other possibilities too.

And for your second question; Nr. 9 was a Gillian, 10 'till 5 (excluding 9) are Adjuchas and Nr. 4 and below are Vasto Lordes. I may be wrong though. So far we haven't seen any of the 'big shots' fight.

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Is halibel being the number 1 espada already revealed in the manga?

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Could I ever merge with somebody's heart,
Like the way the rain merges the sky and earth,
Never meant to connect...

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Is halibel being the number 1 espada already revealed in the manga?

Nope
but we know halibel stark and the guy with the crown are the top three

And btw we don't know if no 4 and below are vasto lorde since kubo tite never publicly announced it and they haven't used their resurrecion yet

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And btw we don't know if no 4 and below are vasto lorde since kubo tite never publicly announced it and they haven't used their resurrecion yet

That's why I said, "I may be wrong though". 😀

But when Toushiro explained the Menos classes to Ichigo and co. He used the outline of Yammi for Adjuchas, and the outline of Ulquiorra for Vasto Lordes. And considering he's Nr. 4 the others stronger than him must be Vasto Lordes too.

All conjecture though.

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I got a question, does anyone think anythings going to happen with Tatsuki Arisawa, I mean she had some sort of awakening when everyone else got there power (sado & orihime) and she knows about Ichigo and everyone else. although it might be too late in the series for her, I just always thought she be a good asset as a fighter.

I think everyone's thinking that. 😀 I always thought that Tatsuki would get some powers, but instead Inoue got some. That was a surprise. 🤣 And shouldn't she be the strongest then technically? Or at least absorbed the most reiatsu from Ichigo. Since she knew him when they were still kids.

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Hmm? I thought Ichigo only had stong reiatsu and his reiatsu started leaking and giving everyone powers only AFTER he got rukia's powers...and I already suggested about an arc for Tatsuki since we already have one for Rukia and now Inoue but it would just make bleach longer and then more people will hate it 😛 🤣

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Hmm? I thought Ichigo only had stong reiatsu and his reiatsu started leaking and giving everyone powers only AFTER he got rukia's powers...and I already suggested about an arc for Tatsuki since we already have one for Rukia and now Inoue but it would just make bleach longer and then more people will hate it 😛 🤣

🤣 Then every woman in Bleach should be the damsel in distress at least once? 🤣 😛

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The powers that awakened in Inoue and Chad could have something to do with the level of feelings they carry for Ichigo. Yes, first they have to have the potential to use spirit power, but I think it could be argued that Inoue and Chad care the most for Ichigo out of all of the human characters. Now Tatsuki, while a childhood friend of Ichigo, pretty obviously was more concerned about Inoue over Ichigo. Perhaps this is why her powers started developing later maybe a distance in the heart, one could say, made the difference.

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For one, I haven't really read anything about anyone 'absorbing' things from Ichigo, and he's always had that reiatsu since before he got the powers from Rukia, hence why she wasn't able to find that gigantic hollow at the beginning in the first place, his reiatsu was covering all that up. It's never actually said that his reiatsu gave ANYONE powers, they could have all just been dormant until forced out due to necessity, and people with the reiatsu to pull that off may just be attracted to one another. If you think about it, in the cases provided here with his friends, they were a case of necessity. There's also the case of his sister having abilities. I mean, it's illogical to think that out of all the people around, only Ichigo could have any kind of talent when it comes to things. I could be proven wrong later down the road, but presently there's no facts to support that being around Ichigo gives people supernatural powers.

This is a dumb question but I can't remember much from the beginning of the series so I forgot if this was answered.

What is the deal with having an inner hollow, that doesn't make any sense to me? If a hollow is the fallen spirit of a dead person, how does one wind up inside Ichigo and the other Vizards and do they have any particular relation to the body they inhabit? Also, would a Vizard with a more powerful inner hollow...say a Vasto Lorde be more powerful than another Vizard?