@VampireBanana -

Whoa...that's awful! I really feel for you. It's a great thing that you've finally managed to struggle through that part of your life, after all those... trials and tribulations. And yeah, you're right that no-one truly gets over stuff like torture and abuse, but I hope you have the courage to move on and put your unpleasant childhood behind you, as best as you can!

And...I suppose right about now, you're thinking- "I don't won't your pity, you stupid, conceited woman!" -But, rest assured, I'm not stuck-up enough to think I have the right to feel sorry for you. I merely wanted to say I admire your perseverance. After all, many have succumbed when faced with much less severe challenges in life!

I'm hoping to major in psychology in the future- and I'll try my best not to become like those terrible psychiatrists you've met!

@Liria -
I don't really agree that those who aren't suicidal can't understand what people who attempt / commit suicide are thinking. I've never felt the urge to kill myself, but I can certainly sympathize with people who feel the desire to do so. Thing like abuse, rape, bullying and social isolation can very easily drive a person over the edge. Some people are just way more susceptible to suicidal tendencies than others; it's something they were born with. Unless we know the person's situation, we can't judge that he killed himself because he's a 'selfish, pathetic loser'.

And, really, my definition of a 'loser' is someone who has been given all the opportunities and privileges in life, but can't achieve anything because he / she is too lazy or ignorant. A person who winds up depressed because they've had to struggle against the odds ever since they were born can't be termed' pathetic' or 'losers'.

But of course, that doesn't mean I approve of suicide in general. There was this huge scandal in a popular school in my country, not long ago, where I honestly thought that the girl who killed herself deserved to die, 'cause she was just that stupid. Apparently, she had discovered that her boyfriend was cheating on her with some other girl; and, disregarding the fact that she had parents who love her and would have helped her get over it, she hung herself! 🤨
Watching the mother sobbing endlessly and wondering whether she had not been supportive or understanding enough frankly made me furious at that idiotic kid. >:-(

So- no, not every suicide can be justified (actually, most of them can't), but that doesn't mean that all suicidal people should be dismissed as useless, crazy failures.

I have had many friends who have gone through some things similar to my past, and they have had some suicidal tendencies. I'm deeply saddened when a friend or even an acquaintance of mine would tell me they don't want to live anymore. Even if I'm not that close to them, I don't want them to die. I like my humans alive.

I have thought about suicide before. A lot. It was at the point in my life when I was in the middle of puberty, and I couldn't handle the abuse I was receiving from my father or verbal abuse from the other kids. It was a really tough time because when I was beaten by my father, I seriously felt that I didn't need to live anymore, and that my life was an accident. After all, I was hated by one of my creators.. And my fellow peers shunned me for my looks, and they just really found any trivial reason to put me down.

But I got over it! Although in a realllllly bad way, like hanging with the bad crowd, and having a lot of fun. (Sometimes, it may be deemed as illegal. >_>; ), I no longer want to end my life. I want to get back up on my feet, and get a nice job, and enjoy a peaceful life without any drama. The reason I never succeeded in my suicide attempts was because I didn't want to make the people around me sad. It really hurts my heart when I know the reason for their tears is me.

Out of boredom, seriously.

Not really seriously, but I have thought of suicide a few times in a "well it would be easier" way. The only time I spent more than a few minutes contemplating it in this was when my neighbor attempted suicide and it just got me thinking.

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Suicide is always an option, it is your life after all.

The only thing we truly own is our own lives, our bodies, with which we are free to do whatever we want. And I will not allow anyone to take that away from me.

That's so cold and selfish. T__T Just reading it made me feel my mum smacking me.

I always thought of people committing suicide as either too emo, too lazy or incredibly stupid (or all of the aforementioned). I'm probably wrong though, as people have all kinds of circumstances and reasons and you can't judge until you've been in their shoes.

If the sea were made of Whiskey and I was a duck
I'd swim to the bottom and never come up

Once in middle school when I was a typical, depressed, moody teen. Then I realized how stupid it would be to do such a thing with so much life ahead.

The only way I'd condone it is if you are in constant pain and/or a truly hopeless situation, like a terminally ill person.

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That's so cold and selfish. T__T Just reading it made me feel my mum smacking me.

But is it more or less selfish than demanding someone live for them, someone whose whole life might have been marked by the feeling of a lack of control, that their last right over their own lives was demanded to be handed over to someone else?

But this is just the fact as I see it, that our right to choose life or death is absolute.
My opinion of those who do it differs with their situation, there is no rule to this, we are all individuals with our own problems and a lot of the time it's difficult to say who was an idiot and who wasn't.

I have painted myself into dark corners once or twice, a panicky chain of rationalizations leading to the futility of it all, but it never went far enough because I really like to be alive and the world is just so fucking amazing that it'd be stupid to jump ship midway.

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I don't think you can really choose death, since people usually are miserable when they do it. I mean they have their situations and they won't do it if everything's going well.
And many times people do it to get attention and help, or to escape something. So it's not like they always want it.

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i'm just going to straight up say that i'm too much of a chicken to commit suicide.
there's really nothing so bad in my life except for my strict parents--they're pretty awesome sometimes though.
i haven't enjoyed freedom from them yet or have the experience of almost everything and anything, so i'm going to work towards that---i have many goals.

also, for me, there's always that question of "what's after death?" 😔

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That's so cold and selfish. T__T Just reading it made me feel my mum smacking me.

But is it more or less selfish than demanding someone live for them, someone whose whole life might have been marked by the feeling of a lack of control, that their last right over their own lives was demanded to be handed over to someone else?

But this is just the fact as I see it, that our right to choose life or death is absolute.
My opinion of those who do it differs with their situation, there is no rule to this, we are all individuals with our own problems and a lot of the time it's difficult to say who was an idiot and who wasn't.

I have painted myself into dark corners once or twice, a panicky chain of rationalizations leading to the futility of it all, but it never went far enough because I really like to be alive and the world is just so fucking amazing that it'd be stupid to jump ship midway.

I concur with what you just said but i think no suicides bellow 18 or 21(make your pick for adult) unless its terminal illnesses.
kids are still developing mentally...right?

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I believe in letting people do as they wish, as do I myself. Sometimes, of course, what I wish to do is kill them and they do not wish to die. This gives life interest.
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Ah. Yeah.
In grade 7 I was failing school. I was bullied beyond belief. My only friends were enemies.
My dad kept calling me stupid cause I was failing. Got kicked out of school.
And I seriously thought about it.

Then I realized how selfish suicide is and have been totally against it ever since.
No matter how bad things get they will always get better! 😎

Death only affects the living. It doesn't mean anything once YOU'RE dead, its the people who have to live without you that hurt.

PS: I find it extremely ironic that this thread started on my birthday. 🤣

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Funny thing is yes but I've never had the courage to do so.

Nobody understand me, stating that I'm just a kid and such. Blablabla.

Ironically, I tried to kill myself childishly by sleeping with a plastic on my face. (-___- #) Never worked though. Pfft.

I just decided to live on and wait for my death. >3>

well for myself, i find suicide is for weak people. the ones that can't face with their problems. though that may be i haven't really experienced anything that i cannot deal with.

so even though, i think it is for weak people, i do feel sad about people died like this.

however i have a problem with ones who attempt suicide just to get attention or to get forgiven. you know, you do something bad that cannot be fixed and then you attempt suicide to make them feel sorry for you so they will stick with you. i do have a couple of friends like this. they do suck. >_>

i got a lot of love for those who died in vain. 🤣
the is no bloody reason for anyone to commit suicide the world sucks that doesn't mean you should press exit. why don't you suffer with the rest of us uh!
what makes you so special that you decide it is right to watch the rest of us suffer.
😔
Only cowards commit suicide period. 🤣

"If I weren't crazy, I'd be insane!"

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"In my dream, the world had suffered a terrible disaster. A black haze shut out the sun, and the darkness was alive with the moans and screams of wounded people. Suddenly, a small light glowed. A candle flickered into life, symbol of hope for millions. A single tiny candle, shining in the ugly dark. I laughed and blew it out."

Yep I’ve thought about it, multiple times.
Although the closest I’ve come to ‘committing suicide’ was about 1 metre between an oncoming train and myself. The only real reason I didn’t take that last step was because I didn’t want to make all my loved ones suffer.

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Only cowards commit suicide period. 🤣

Judging by your statement I’m guessing you’ve never experienced the extreme hopelessness and sadness a suicidal person has felt. So please refrain from calling people who are suicidal, cowards until you have stood where they have stood, (which I really hope you never will) and then tell me who the coward is.