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15 years ago
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Yeah, I've thought about it several times. Never attempted it though. I've held a knife and pictured stabbing myself, but that was it.

I didn't do it to stop the chaos in my life(which, thinking about it wasn't worth killing myself for). I thought about it because I hated having my parents deal with my mistakes. Yeah, I knew it would hurt them, but I rationalized it as "It would help them in the long run" or "If I'm dead, I don't have to feel guilty".

What stopped me was fear though. And it saved me every time.

I don't look down on those who think about it or attempt it. Those who do look down on these people just can't understand the pain and confusion they are going through.


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Huh...

Yeah, I used to think about it... however, I realized I was being weak... punishing others by killing myself? WORSE IDEA EVER... Killing myself in order to escape of this horrible world? bah...

If I kill myself, others may grief for a while, but life moves on... aka those alive move on... aka I DON'T
So i decided to punish others through my actions, and reward others through my actions... slowly I began to be rewarded and punished and my meaningless life became important.

The world is as bad as you make it out to be... so yeah, my life sucks... and? plenty of people are dealing with worse crap than me, and if they get their act together and move on, then why shouldn't I?

Suicide is retarded... if you die trying to do the impossible, that is one thing, but DEAD as a mean of escape? worse plan ever


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Thought about it, researched methods, and will never do it. My reason is that it scares me to think I could do something gruesome and deadly to myself and come out of it alive and damaged. Plus I hate pain. I always used to ignore the selfish and leaving people behind part. Pointing that out to me means nothing to me. I won't feel guilty about it because if I did end my life I will not be feeling anything at all. As for it being cowardly, well if someone is killing themselves to run away from their problems then sure. But the act itself isn't. It takes guts to actually go through w/it. But then again who cares? Not the person considering killing themselves that's for sure. Saying its cowardly is just pointing out the obvious. Pointing out the obvious rarely does anything.


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Only cowards commit suicide period. 🤣

Really now, youre too true to your nick, and I sincerely pity your lack of wisdom. Maybe in the future you'll want to look more deeply at the others around you.

Simply put, when you you feel you're lacking the love of others, when you dont esteem yourself due to personal shortcomings or lack of support, when youre stuck in a slump in your life and you dont see an exit in that dark tunnel: when any or all of these things get extreme and you agonize every day, you simply dont want to live another day like that, feeling useless and hopeless to the utmost extreme.
You feel that "everything you do is hopeless" "the situation wont possibly change for the better no matter how much effort you put in" "no one will care if I just disappear with my meaningless existence".
Well first i must say that EVERY existence is unique to itself, no joke and no cliche about it: we are UNIQUE and RARE. We're not "standardized" or "common" or even "cathegorized" as many, many media, statistics and such want us to believe.

I can only say that Life is HARD, and doing nothing or letting it "have its way" or waiting in hope that "things will change by themselves" won't make it any easier or more bearable. You can only be HARDER than Life. Never give up, cause there's plenty of examples out there that state that Willpower changes even history. Believe in yourself and you can change your future.
You find faults in your habits/body/social-money status? Admit them with a smile of truthfulness, no one in this planet is not even near perfect. Get it over your personal shortcomings, say to yourself "Im like this, SO WHAT?": you dont have to be perfect, superbeautiful, admired by throngs of people or with a body that can enter a Mr.Universe competition.
Be true to yourself and admit where you can improve, do never expect immediate changes if you start something, its always a slow road, but surely it will bring you to your destination.
First stopping hating yourself for something as trivial as those things will let you earn the peace of mind to start improving yourself.

When there's a single Will, there's a Way. Never give up, never.


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I've thought about committing suicide before but I just couldn't do that to my family and friends. I mean the reason I wanted to do it was because of me and me alone, and if I did do it, I would be hurting them all. I didn't want them to think that it was their fault in any way. So I started hoping to die in some sort of accident or something. Of course, that didn't happen and with time I got better.


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Life is not meant to be easy.
Suicide is the easy way out. The Ultimate form of escapism.

I don't care who you are or how terrible your life may be, there's someone in this world that's got it twice as bad as you and he/she is still moving forward. (Think you got it bad? Try visiting a third world country.)

I've never seriously considered killing myself, but I can understand that there are times when people reach a low point and seriously consider it.

But there's no justified reason to kill yourself. I can only shake my head in pity when I think that someone could be so foolish... It's sad, dismal even, to think that a lack of hope is enough to kill oneself.


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Well Calibre, hope is the only thing that keep men alive.


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Well Calibre, hope is the only thing that keep men alive.

If hope keeps men alive... then what keeps woman alive?


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Well Calibre, hope is the only thing that keep men alive.

If hope keeps men alive... then what keeps woman alive?

Feminism.

Wise, sound words, grandexeno.


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I'll be honest: I've considered doing it before a few years ago. But then I realized that it wouldn't solve anything and it would just leave my family and friends hurt and wondering why I did it, so I decided against it.

As for the act itself, I personally think that people can't judge others for thinking about it or going ahead with it unless they go through the exact things that the person had to suffer though (Well, the serious cases anyway). I mean, it's another one of those things where people say they'll do one thing if a situation comes up, but when that situation actually comes up they usually do the opposite.

EDIT: As for the "Going through the exact things" part, the only way I can agree with calling them losers would be if they were acting melodramatic for attention (Like some emos or goths), or if it's for an idiotic reason, like some person missing a concert, or a rich kid not getting what they want.


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Well Calibre, hope is the only thing that keep men alive.

I'd disagree.

I grew up in the poor parts of NY. I can tell what a man with no hope looks like.
Yet these guys still kept it moving. I'd equate it to a person sinking in quicksand with his head held high. I'd call it self destructive behavior if I didn't know any better.

There's something deeper than hope. Something along the lines of pride and tenacity. A sort of courage to step out into the world that shows nothing more than ill will towards you, knowing nothings gonna get better and keep walking.


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In my opinion (im not here to counter your every phrase, my friend 🙂 ) the people you see have yet to "arrive" where only hope remains. You spoke of tenacity and pride, right: they are far above (thanks to their self-esteem and die-hard determination "no matter what") the ones that dont have anything, like someone imprisoned in a foreign country, or someone that is trying to survive lets say, a shipwreck or other desperate situations like being buried by an avalanche (this should be one of the best examples). In those cases you cant do anything, youre powerless.
No pride left, no tenacity (apart that coming from natural instinct): just hoping someone will rescue you will keep you alive (and possibly sane 😛 )


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I think everyone can do whatever they want with their life.
It's not anyone's place to tell them otherwise.

Very much this.

Many people seem to consider suicide a selfish act and since it only follows the immediate wish of the person committing it, it certainly is! But why is this a reason to condemn it?

Everything a living organism does is rooted in egoism, that is the way of life. If it would be otherwise, we would not be able to healthily survive in this world. And since humans have overlapping needs, others profit from one's selfishness and thus legitimate it.
Our selfish acts include others and build empires, there is nothing condemnable in this.

Suicide is the one selfish act noone but the actor benefits from.
Condeming it looks like resentment to me.


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Have never contemplated it because seriously I have to say I have had a pretty mean life. My parents were awesome, had great siblings, good friends and an excellent environement and I consider myself lucky for that. I am doing medicine now and depression is a huge topic in my course and seriously according to WHO clinical depression is on rise and will be SECOND biggest cause of death after ischaemic heart disease by 2020. This shows that depression is a pretty big problem and preventions need to be carried out. During my course I have met severely depressed people and I have talked to them as sincerely as possible and honestly guys the way they see the world is so much more different than ours the people who are well off and who are lucky enought to have a good environment. Its hard to put in words the way these people the depressed view the world. Its as if they are not part of society, its as if they are just going along day by dayjust pointlessly doing things, asking themselves for every little thing whats the point, do people even need me? Seriously I just can't put it into words and my mood was so grim after talking to them, that I just went home and said to my parents thank you for what you have done for me and just hugged the hell out of my girlfriend. It was random yea but it just made me so grateful for the life I have had.

We are in no position whatsoever to judge how the depressed think and that they are cowards whatsoever. Their view of the world is so much different to ours especially mine that it is scary and I just imagined what it would be like to live every single day of your life just continuing on. What I noticed about the depressed people is that they had some common links between them such as sometimes unsupportive parents who are abusive or never give them the time of day, bullying in any form even cyber bullying, bad environment at home and the very severely depressed had gone through some form of abuse ussualy sexual. There are other causes yes but those for me seemed the most common. There is no single solution to this problem but I think love might help but love is not something easily given and I just feel sad knowing that what can I do to change their view? Not much i can try but they have to try as well. You say that you should never give up hope or that life is hard but those are words easily said, when you are in that position only you can know how hard it is, several of the people i talked to have tried soo hard but they were trapped in a vicious never ending cycle and where I saw colour they saw black and white. I can really go on and on about this about how sad it is and what kind of position in it but no amount of words will be enough. I congrautualte the people who are able to escape depression because it is seriously tough and they should be proud of themseleves definetly.


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Only cowards commit suicide period. 🤣

Really now, youre too true to your nick, and I sincerely pity your lack of wisdom. Maybe in the future you'll want to look more deeply at the others around you.

Simply put, when you you feel you're lacking the love of others, when you dont esteem yourself due to personal shortcomings or lack of support, when youre stuck in a slump in your life and you dont see an exit in that dark tunnel: when any or all of these things get extreme and you agonize every day, you simply dont want to live another day like that, feeling useless and hopeless to the utmost extreme.
You feel that "everything you do is hopeless" "the situation wont possibly change for the better no matter how much effort you put in" "no one will care if I just disappear with my meaningless existence".
Well first i must say that EVERY existence is unique to itself, no joke and no cliche about it: we are UNIQUE and RARE. We're not "standardized" or "common" or even "cathegorized" as many, many media, statistics and such want us to believe.

I might have a Strong views but am not an idiot.
What you have just stated are merely EXCUSES and not reasons. I can think of thousands of EXCUSES why one might want to commit suicide but not a single bloody reason cause there is none. Like you said every life in it self is unique therefore isn't it stupidity to end this life when it already has a day it will naturally end?

I have contemplated suicide on multiple occasion. i felt that life was meaningless and i fell into the pits of depression but this is where i draw the line between normal and cowardice. it is perfectly normal to feel suicidal when you get into that situation but to actually go through it makes you a coward cause the is help if you can't recover yourself so that isn't a reason you are merely drowning yourself in self pity.

I Have love for those WHO HAVE DIED IN VAIN. 😃 🙂

There is not a legitimate reason to commit suicide therefore those who commit suicide are coward who are just escaping life through death. 😃


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