k guys, i've found an engineer now that will prolly help us with the project (drawing schematics, making engines) so soon we will have either a good spool engine or maybe an modified in-wheel engine. ^^
Great news right? think im doing progress

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nice kuoru. good job. i can;t recruit even one engineer student but you get engineer. congrats.

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hehe, well the engineer said with customized parts he can make a "homemade" inwheel engine which could easily move a person with the right energy

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hehe, well the engineer said with customized parts he can make a "homemade" inwheel engine which could easily move a person with the right energy

really? cool. looks like this project have some improvement. thx

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yay
this means one more step too the AT's 😃

I know you guys said that the engines cant be put inside the wheel, but what about magnets?

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/3600/atwheelbm2.png

I got this idea when i was thinking how the maglev train can hit record speeds, the down side is that it will take long to accelerate. The magnets will be powered by how fast you are going so dont expect a sudden kick. Firs a person needs to skate like a normal person would. After he/she picks up some speed, the batteries will start to work more noticeable (the batteries get stronger and stronger as you speed up because of a mini generator).

Once you reach a high speed you wont even need to skate anymore, just keep your balance. If you dont know how the maglev train works you should wiki it.

And i know this is a shallow device but its more realistic than an engine, will also be probably worth ALOT more. 🤣

note: that picture was made in less than 20 mins in paint and i didnt put too much detail in. I only bothered designing the wheel.

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^^ I really have no idea what you are talking about. A maglev train uses magnets, but I don't know how you are thinking of applying it to a roller skate. The point of a maglev train is that wheels are not used much/at all when moving at higher speeds. A roller skate must use wheels, as there is no metal track to levitate off of. Also, a person can not skate fast enough to power a magnet for levitation or electric motor with decent results. Once a "high speed" is reached, you will just drain your batteries that are keeping the system moving, like any other motor.

... Did u guys know that to making something like AT u have to stop thinking on the past?... forget about roler blades and whatever technology we have now.

you need 3 things to make AT.

1st. A motor capable to move a person to about 25Miles per hour
2nd. Wires capable to abjust to the model.
3rd. The powersource to keep the thing running for at least 2 hours... less than that will make the thing too bothersome to someone enjoy it.

3rd thing can be done with actual technology cuz we got allready powerfull bateries on most of today's laptops u can use the base of the AT to store those bateries it may make the desing too trick but hell 😛 if it runs no one will care.

the 1st thing is though... a motor big enough to run a person on 25miles ... so i was thinking? in-whell motors will be way too small to get enough horsepower but ... that's with actual motors... why dont u guys think on making a new motor? ... u can use rubber like materials like the ones used to close doors on fridges as magnets, they can work as the tire and the center can be an electromagnet to start the rev. , There are some Stepping motors that are designed thin enough to work as the axis. So We can make a nice motor to work as the wheel.

u can use rubber like materials like the ones used to close doors on fridges as magnets, they can work as the tire and the center can be an electromagnet to start the rev. ,

isn't the fridge door magnets too weak?

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im not talking about fridge door magnets, im talking about magnets that activate when electric current is passed through them (electromagnets).

When you start running with the AT, the mini generator will make energy. So the faster you go the more energy. And a push and pull situation on the magnet comes. The negative will push the negative, and the positive will pull the negative in a cycle. This will give gradual exponential speed depending on how long a person rides. Also the magnets will be inside the wheel's moving part so it will have to use the wheel with the magnet even at higher speeds and why would a person levitate if the magnets is INSIDE the wheel? there are no outside magnets at all.

Did you look at that picture? imagine the border between the moving and non-moving parts have bearings. That is what will keep the wheel rolling and at the same time transfer energy because the bearings will be stationary and only 5 or 6 bearings will be used. This is so because there needs to be space to transfer energy and notice that i said the bearings were stationary. between those bearings will either be gears that will transfer the rotation up to the main generator to create energy. And yes ive seen generators that is is big as a tiny mini toy car. even one generator per shoe of AT will be good enough, so you will only need a fairly 3 moderate size lithium battery as big as a camera's battery, and a mini generator with the magwheels. This will reduce the cost of having to buy two mini-motors with a battery pack so big.

And an mini engine that can run a 50-70kg person is unrealistic because the engine will not be big nor powerful enough. So why cant you just switch the engines to the pull and push factors of a magnet.

And Jay3205 Im not talking about the maglev train in general 😔 . Im only trying to reverse engineer the concept into mini-wheels. And FYI the maglev train doesnt use metal tracks to levtiate, it uses the metal tracks to keep the magnets on place to levitate it. You guys are bound to the fact that this will need an engine.

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When you start running with the AT, the mini generator will make energy. So the faster you go the more energy. And a push and pull situation on the magnet comes. The negative will push the negative, and the positive will pull the negative in a cycle. This will give gradual exponential speed depending on how long a person rides. Also the magnets will be inside the wheel's moving part so it will have to use the wheel with the magnet even at higher speeds and why would a person levitate if the magnets is INSIDE the wheel? there are no outside magnets at all. A "push and pull cycle" will probably not work. Putting magnets in the setup you explained gives no advantage. Having one part push while the other pulls does nothing to actually make the parts spin. You might as well have one solid part with the motor directly attached to the wheel.

Secondly, putting a mini generator in the wheel will add unnecessary friction and it will make it that much harder to skate using leg power... meaning lower base speed. Basically, the energy that you will generate with your legs will not be enough to run the motors under the weight of the average teen/adult. An electric bike motor can use 350W of power to move at 25 mph. It's difficult to generate that pedaling a normal bike, and it's definitely not possible for the average person to generate that with a skating motion. There will be no exponential speed increase... all the extra energy that should be going into speed will be going into fighting wind resistance.

And Jay3205 Im not talking about the maglev train in general . Im only trying to reverse engineer the concept into mini-wheels. And FYI the maglev train doesnt use metal tracks to levtiate, it uses the metal tracks to keep the magnets on place to levitate it. I realize that. Magnets can't be used to repel from metal alone.

seems like the topic is dieing, im sorry that i cant check in as often as i would want to, but i have something to report atm, that is that my project is being delayed due to some calculation problems but will soon be solved, im getting back to you guys when i got something more to report........
if this havent died already when i get back.
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seems like the topic is dieing, im sorry that i cant check in as often as i would want to, but i have something to report atm, that is that my project is being delayed due to some calculation problems but will soon be solved, im getting back to you guys when i got something more to report........
if this havent died already when i get back.
🤢

yeah. i think its dying too. but i wont give up. i'll keep posting on other forums if i have to.

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Lightning, with some help from other guys who have visited here, have pm'ed me and are about to host a new forum for my "Parts war" and also a topic there will be put out for making Air Trek.
join us when the site us up.

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i officially declared this thread is dead. i'll work on my own here.
i've gathered enough data here. thanks for you who have posted.

(psss, lambchopsil, lock please)

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coz this thread is pratically dead, so it's no use to continue 😢

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