I hope you're kidding when you say that marriage is just a title, if i find a girl and she say that she will marry me for making me happy i will be quite hurt, i want my future wife to marry me because SHE want to be happy, because she think that if i'm here she will be happy.
The fact is that marriage is an egoistic act, you make the other promise that he will only love you and will never go play around with any other person.



Marriage isn't a guarantee it's a promise and you can break a promise, everybody know that, it's just that some people like to think that a promise is sacred and will be kept, it's what we call hope.

Yes divorces are common and i find it quite sad but that will never change the fact that a marriage is something sacred, not obligatory in a religious way, marriage has been done everywhere on the world since long long time ago and i hope it will continue.
I can still call marriage sacred because the marriage hold the hope of both person, to live happily with each other, and everything that hold hope is sacred to me, even if it's just a promise.


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@krosko: but why do you want marriage? can't you live with the person you love forever? i mean the matter here is to be with the person you love right? so why marriage? cant you be with him/her without marriage?

Like i said marriage is a promise between 2 people and while it's something sacred to me it's only a promise and, like you said, people can be happy without.
Everybody have there own reason to want a wedding, some is for the ceremonie, other for the religious act and me it's because i don't trust anyone so if a girl want to marry me and do it then i will be able to completly trust her.
You can say that i can trust her without marrying and that's true but the wedding is the only real proof of love i can find on earth, i mean people don't marry each other for fun.

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are you sure they don't marry because of fun? well marrying bacuse of fun may not be much in number but you can't say the same for marrying because of money

her love that means you don't love her that much either and by only signing a paper you won't be able to find the proof you seek....

Yes, 50 percent of marriages end in divorce, but only about 25 percent of married people get divorced.

A lot of those are people of multiple marriages.

Now, I made the statement I did in rebuttal to your flippant and neuveaux way of thinking, which I disagree with, and think is a detriment to society as a whole.

Whether or not marriage is sacred, it is still the foundation of society in one way or another.

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I don't really care about the paper. What i want is only the feeling that i can love her with all my heart and that she isn't just playing around with me(yeah personal experience), and if the wedding isn't a proof of love anymore then i must say that it's quite sad and that the society is in a bad state.
Well i can't say how i will react if i find a girlfriend, it could happen that i trust her, it's been 7 years since i had a girlfriend and it's quite some time ago, i don't remember exactly how i felt.

I forgot to says that it's because people think that marriage is not sacred (piece of paper like you said) that there's so much divorce

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well then let me say i really hope that your wife won't ever cheat on you.. i wouldn't want to see your dreams get crushed but just a reminder: life is not a shoujo and marriage is not a proof of something anymore

Me too i hope my wife won't ever cheat on me

It's because people think like you that marriage isn't a proof of something anymore, but i have the hope that the majority don't think like you and that i can find a girl who have the same tought as me (that's surely the hardest part of the problem )

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well girls with shoujo glasses are easy to find but be careful about not letting them take of their glasses then

I can make that promise without the state papers, white dress, and ring, thank you very much.
I don't know if I got my point across clearly so I'll repeat: to me, what's important is not the "Mr/Mrs" title or the white dress, or the legal rights, or the lighting of candles, etc. To me, what's important is our love for each other.

Sorry, maybe I'm not your ideal girl, but I don't see how the state papers, white dresses, and rings are supposed to affect my love for my husband any more than money should affect my love.

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You think too much about the physical aspect of the wedding and not enough about the emotional one.
Of course you can make that promise without the paper but with paper or without it's the same promise and the meaning doesn't change what change is how the administration see you. I know people who exchange vow and aren't legaly married but for me it's the same and i see them as husband and wife.
I don't care about the paper, but i like the idea of the vow and this is what a wedding is to me.

Also i like the ring thing but this is just personal taste.

i don't answer anything to your second sentence, when you say that money is as good as a wedding for you because i could say some thing really bad and i don't think you meant it the way i understand it.

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Is marriage really necessary?
In recent years more and more people who want to be together just live together, have kids together and etc. without getting married.
I mean you can always get the legal documents without the ceremony, if you really feel like you need it. I think its more of a cultural thing that some people want to have a huge memorable ceremony (the idea of how many women might feel compelled to have a big "fairy-tale" wedding. It probably has to do with how the Hollywood/Bollywood, the media, and society in general presures people into such choices.

Outside of any religious commitment and the memory some people want to have, I don't think there should be any real reason to do it. And yet many non-religious people do it anyway just for the sake of doing it, and because it is the norm of society.

Thinking about it logically, of course media sources will tell you its the norm. There is many industries that depend on the wedding business. Businesses offer wedding planners, make wedding dresses, sell engagement rings.

A wedding dress can cost thousands of dollars, but you wear it once.
Some people realize this and might rent a dress, but most wouldn't want to be labeled as cheap. And can you think of anyone who's had the ceremony without a dress?

How about engagement rings? De Beers and a few others have a complete monopoly on diamonds, jack up the prices in order to make diamonds luxury items and desirable. They buy back the diamonds which are stolen by their miners, and even "illegal" blood diamonds mined by militias because if the market gets flooded the prices will dive like there's no tomorrow.

Anyway what I am trying to say is that whole industries rely on the wedding business and without it the economies of more than one country would suffer. But on the other side should we really feel forced to comply with these ridiculous "standards"? Like I said before it is understandable to have a ceremony of your religion so requires of you, but what I will never understand is why atheists and not so religious people would do it. (these groups are probably the fastest growing - logic will prevail!)

For more information on diamonds, and blood diamonds:
http://science.howstuffworks.com/diamond.htm

also watch the movie Blood Diamond


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Wow...quite a heated conversation...and all about marriage o_o

I'm gonna side with xShatteredSoulx and Lybi on this matter. When you marry someone, it's gotta/gonna be the love of your life - someone you're "fated" to be with.
I really hate it when people say it's just a piece of paper, or that it's just a financial agreement. WHAT ABOUT YOUR PARENTS?! Do you doubt their love for each other? Do you then, in this belief, consider yourself as just a product of this "paper", or tax on the "financial agreement" and not a manifestation of their love for each other?
Marriage is a sacred bonding and also, in some ways, a reminder to the couple and to others that they belong to someone, that they're in a commitement. Sure, it sounds crude and "egoistic" - but what are the chances of someone flirting around with other than their partner versus the chances of someone commiting adultery? I'd rather take the more...secure path thank you very much

p.s - apologies to those that cannot relate on the matter of parents and their love for each other >_>

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I never said it guarantees, it should though. People treat marriage so lightly now that the covenant they make means pretty much zilch. When I make a pact I intend to keep it, unless part of it was broken by the other(s) involved. I can still can marriage sacred because it is, just because others treat a nothing more than paper doesn't change what it is. Just because people call me fat doesn't mean I am, does it? And finally now that i think about it, if marriage isn't proof enough that she will stay with me forever, she ain't worth it.