Death penalty
17 years ago
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I don't want to bash anyone or something.. 🤣 But I think that people who wants those criminals to suffer, are just the same like those criminals.. Because they have 'evil' inside them too.. So they're no different..
I just noticed that.. 😛
and??
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yes I must agree with you
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17 years ago
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I don't want to bash anyone or something.. 🤣 But I think that people who wants those criminals to suffer, are just the same like those criminals.. Because they have 'evil' inside them too.. So they're no different..
I just noticed that.. 😛
Everyone has an evil side to them. There's no human alive without the presence of evil deep inside their hearts. It's just that some show it more than other 😃
The way you're saying it is that you wouldn't want to punish criminals or something >_>
17 years ago
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Having "evil" inside of you is one thing. Acting on that "evil" is a completely different thing.
I agree with that. 😃 There's no absolute good... because everyone's had an evil thought or two.. it's just bout whether they have acted on it or not.
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I don't want to bash anyone or something.. But I think that people who wants those criminals to suffer, are just the same like those criminals.. Because they have 'evil' inside them too.. So they're no different..
I just noticed that..
I agree with this as well though.. and that's because people allow their hate and hurt to blind themselves from the right choice of action.
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Member17 years ago
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Wow I just tied the votes xD. Umm I voted for it but im really undecided. I mean im for it because if you kill someone you deserve to pay for it and they cant keep every criminal alive because well it costs a lot and they are not worth it. But then I think they suffer more if you do keep them alive.
On the contrary because of the way the legal system works, at least in the US, it costs millions more to keep a prisoner on death row. They will keep appealing all the way up to the Supreme Court if it's allowed to go that far. However if all they want is to not die they'll stop appealing if you just imprison them for life. In an ideal system the Death penalty would work so I'm for it in principle, but humans aren't perfect and there will never be a way to make our legal systems 100% accurate.
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I don't want to bash anyone or something.. 🤣 But I think that people who wants those criminals to suffer, are just the same like those criminals.. Because they have 'evil' inside them too.. So they're no different..
I just noticed that.. 😛
Everyone has an evil side to them. There's no human alive without the presence of evil deep inside their hearts. It's just that some show it more than other 😃
The way you're saying it is that you wouldn't want to punish criminals or something >_>
See, you're talking evil..! 😲 j/k 😛
I'm just saying that it's hypocritical.. And all the 'criminals' were all regular people who were born as babies..
You could have been a 'criminal' too.. But lucky for you, you got in a good environment, which turned you in a person with morals.. And knows better than to act on that 'evil'..
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17 years ago
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I am against the death penalty, because it gives goverments the means to kill people. If they want you dead bad enough, they can kill you for high treason.
17 years ago
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personally- i never saw the point of death penalty.
even if someone commited murder- will another dead guy make it better?
and if its not a life concerning crime- kill people because of money? WHY?
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17 years ago
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personally- i never saw the point of death penalty.
even if someone commited murder- will another dead guy make it better?
and if its not a life concerning crime- kill people because of money? WHY?
no it won't make it better, but you have to ask yourself, wouldn't this murderer kill again?
would you feel okay, with a killer going around in the streets with your child nearby?
And is this guy/girl really mentally well?
what i mean is that a killer is human, a human that did something unhuman becuase of a reason, a reason made him/her crack, and some cracked stuff never get repaired, so you just throw them away, and so do we by preventing this person from doing something else.
17 years ago
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personally- i never saw the point of death penalty.
even if someone commited murder- will another dead guy make it better?
and if its not a life concerning crime- kill people because of money? WHY?no it won't make it better, but you have to ask yourself, wouldn't this murderer kill again?
would you feel okay, with a killer going around in the streets with your child nearby?
And is this guy/girl really mentally well?what i mean is that a killer is human, a human that did something unhuman becuase of a reason, a reason made him/her crack, and some cracked stuff never get repaired, so you just throw them away, and so do we by preventing this person from doing something else.
so lock them up in a mental institution or a jail for the rest of their life. not kill them back..
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17 years ago
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personally- i never saw the point of death penalty.
even if someone commited murder- will another dead guy make it better?
and if its not a life concerning crime- kill people because of money? WHY?no it won't make it better, but you have to ask yourself, wouldn't this murderer kill again?
would you feel okay, with a killer going around in the streets with your child nearby?
And is this guy/girl really mentally well?what i mean is that a killer is human, a human that did something unhuman becuase of a reason, a reason made him/her crack, and some cracked stuff never get repaired, so you just throw them away, and so do we by preventing this person from doing something else.
so lock them up in a mental institution or a jail for the rest of their life. not kill them back..
you know there are people in jail & mental institutions too.
And not everybody in jail is a murderer, nor is every murderer crazy!
17 years ago
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[quote=moritana]personally- i never saw the point of death penalty.
even if someone commited murder- will another dead guy make it better?
and if its not a life concerning crime- kill people because of money? WHY?no it won't make it better, but you have to ask yourself, wouldn't this murderer kill again?
would you feel okay, with a killer going around in the streets with your child nearby?
And is this guy/girl really mentally well?what i mean is that a killer is human, a human that did something unhuman becuase of a reason, a reason made him/her crack, and some cracked stuff never get repaired, so you just throw them away, and so do we by preventing this person from doing something else.
so lock them up in a mental institution or a jail for the rest of their life. not kill them back..
you know there are people in jail & mental institutions too.
And not everybody in jail is a murderer, nor is every murderer crazy![/quote]
so whats the point of killing them?
in the start you have one dead guy, so to solve the issue you kill some more?
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17 years ago
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The point is to make the world safe.
of course we are talking as if the world was a perfect place, do you know how many killers trick the system and walk away only to kill again?
Do you know what it feels like to be helpless in front of a killer?
I don't think so.
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I am against the death penalty, because it gives goverments the means to kill people. If they want you dead bad enough, they can kill you for high treason.
yes I believe this is a down side to the death penalty. it's because the world is so corrupted that things like this happen.
17 years ago
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how does that connect to anything?
death penalty is a punishment for those who were proven as crime commiters.
my point is- if the crime did not concearn any lives, wtf kill someone?
if it did, then its the same crime all over again. whats the differance between a killers who kill from their opinion of justice and killers who kill from their will? its the same thing.
with the same logic, you can put death penalty on those who perfomed the death penalty. and so on and so on, till the whole humanity is dead.
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17 years ago
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how does that connect to anything?
death penalty is a punishment for those who were proven as crime commiters.
my point is- if the crime did not concearn any lives, wtf kill someone?if it did, then its the same crime all over again. whats the differance between a killers who kill from their opinion of justice and killers who kill from their will? its the same thing.
with the same logic, you can put death penalty on those who perfomed the death penalty. and so on and so on, till the whole humanity is dead.
yes it is a penalty for people who killed with full purpose and intention. They get what they deserve, and that is the job of the judge.
and what do you mean by '' if the crime did not concearn any lives'' are you saying that people who didn't hurt any lives badly shouldn't be killed?
if that is then i agree, Death penalty is not something you just throw at any person, it's for people with completely no hope of living among a human society peacefuly.
Then again our law system is corrupted, and since we aren't talking about a certain person, i can't really get specific.
now to the second part.
you want to know the difference between loose killers and death penalty.
Let's say a killers comes to you with a gun in hand, and is going to kill you, but you find a chance to attack him and kill him.
How do you think the law will treat this?
this wasn't under a judge, this was out of your own free will, you have done something to save you're own life, it's kill or be killed.
and if explained to police, you won't even enter a court room.
of course thats one case, now let's say this:
A guy/girl was blackmailed into killing someone, or something terrible will happen to your family, you are being watched not to contact the police, you are too afraid to contact the police now, what would you do?
if you go and kill the person they want you to kill you will have become a killer! (in the eye of the government) but you can't just go and contact the police, Nor can you face the black mailers!
Me myself have no answer to that, wonder why i even wrote it? it's to make you aware that there are people like this.
My point is, give me a single case and i'll tell you the difference, because there is no general formula to judge, that is why we have a court room, with people thinking, is this person guilty? does he deserve to die?
17 years ago
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solitary confinement, provided a lifetime of Gruel and vitamins to keep them alive. Lets see the eagerness to go out and commit murder then.
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