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Looking for some more release mods
Hello all. We're looking for some release mods who are interested in helping us speed up updates on this site. If you're interested, please send me a PM.

Thanks!

edit: thanks for all the interest! we're looking through the apps now, so it may take a bit. don't worry if you haven't heard anything back from us yet. you will get a response eventually.

-M
Posted by Manick on 
August 3rd 1:12pm
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» Elbart on August 4th, 2011, 8:43am

If existing mods weren't continuously uploading releases to sites like Mangafox against the wishes of the scanlation-groups, you probably wouldn't need more mods. wink

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» uzumakiwalid on August 4th, 2011, 10:55am

Agreed

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» lambchopsil on August 4th, 2011, 3:13pm

What are you talking about?

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» Toto on August 4th, 2011, 5:55pm

http://forums.mangafox.com/members/206098-matias06 7
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/onihime_vs/?no_war ning=1
just an example... you can look at other series releases. He does... many. He's the second most contributor on mangafox with 7281 files to his name.


He also does it on many other online readers.

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» woxxy on August 4th, 2011, 10:42pm

Precisely, he does it despite the scanlators' wait times and despite the rage threads on MangaFox scanlators start.

Mods can't remove the manga he uploads, because his uploads are accepted automatically. Scanlators try to block him from joining their channel on IRC, etcetera.

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» MewMan on August 4th, 2011, 11:41pm

we actually have that mod?

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» kawaiiusagichan on August 5th, 2011, 8:45pm

Yep, check out his name under 'Release Mods' when you click the 'About Us' section on the right navigation panel.

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» T1 on August 6th, 2011, 1:49am

If this is true then I'm quite shocked to see someone I value quite high as an organisation being this low...respect is going down the drain. D:

Seems like you may need more mods after taking time to clean the idiots from the staff,eh?

PS: At least now I know how they end up really fast at online mangareaders: "Go check the release, download it, update the database on mu, upload it to the manga onlinereaders...Done working and trolling" What a tard. >.<

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» babel on August 6th, 2011, 3:05pm

Wow, that's a shock to me too.
It's almost funny that he's working here. It's sort of like Attila the Hun running a creche.

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» uzumakiwalid on August 4th, 2011, 10:55am

Well, i know that they have to constantly checking and maybe have connection to some of the popular scanlators....

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» Ascension on August 5th, 2011, 9:35am

you my good sir, should take an english book and revise your english... or stop posting meaningless posts....

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» jHoward on August 4th, 2011, 8:41pm

I guess you're out of the topic, guys >_>

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» mellowmut on August 6th, 2011, 12:21pm

The following is not the view or stance of MangaUpdates but just simply my own personal thoughts and opinion. Please don't hold MangaUpdates liable for any of my words or actions.

Please let us refrain from flaming other individuals on this site. Not really sure I've personally ever spoken with the individual that's being mentioned but hey if they're doing a good job here, for free I might add with no added benefit whatsoever, and uploading releases and letting the sites subscribers/members know when new releases are out then I feel that's a good thing. People of all creeds, backgrounds, etc etc submit releases to us for review/update all the time. What I mean to say is that it wouldn't be fair to discriminate and say you shouldn't update releases because I don't like the fact you scanlate licensed manga (bear in mind all manga is licensed somewhere just not maybe specifically where you live) or because I know you cheated on that math test back in 7th grade that makes you a bad person. What I'm trying to say if we all have different degrees of morality. We all find ways to justify our actions. To an extent this person is doing the same exact thing manga raw providers do. They're taking something someone created, making a copy of it, and distributing that copy to others. Our normal justification is: "Well this manga would never see the light of day otherwise and would never have reached xx audience. In which case it's easy to justify by considering we're helping build an audience and fan base maybe even increasing readership/sales for the original mangaka." You can make the same argument that this person is doing same. By making it available on xx site it's making this or that more easily available to this or that individual that may not have been able to access or stumble upon it otherwise. Again not to say I agree with their actions on a personal level plus I'm quite lazy so I wouldn't even go to the extra hassle of uploading the manga scans to a manga reading site, even if I was so inclined to do so that is. To sum up not really sure that said actions should play any relevance to their role or position here. This and that are two different things. Again just my two cents.

Back to me being a representative for site. In closing just wish to reiterate, to those not already aware, MangaUpdates have already prided ourselves on following direction from the scanlators of the release. If we're told to not update the release until 24 hours out or hey don't post link to download, our forums, irc channel, website, or etc etc we tend to respect and cooperate with request. We're all a community and should do our best to respect each other and what we do. It's our love for manga that brought us here and keeps the community going. Thanks for taking the time to read. And with that said let's end the discussion there. Thanks.

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» Ascension on August 6th, 2011, 6:49pm

seems you don't really get the point... you just told us something that doesn't have anything to do with what the guys above actually meant by in their posts. what they meant that, that guy that's also a mod here is a tard BECAUSE he doesn't respect the wishes of the scanlators... THEY wish for THEIR releases not to be uploaded in the first 24 hours anywhere.... and yet he does. also... some people just dont like their scanlations being fucked up by mangafox's online reader...
here's what you said: "If we're told to not update the release until 24 hours out or hey don't post link to download, our forums, irc channel, website, or etc etc we tend to respect and cooperate with request."... and yet he doesn't do that.... he doesn't wait 24 hours.
usually you should check what the other people write before you post.
i won't give my opinion on the matter cause i don't care embarrassed

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» woxxy on August 6th, 2011, 7:27pm

I’m sorry, but I can’t let this discussion end just yet, especially considering you weren’t talking as part of the MangaUpdates team.
I'll mix my answer to your opinion with material addressed to the rest of the MU team. If you could, ping the team so they can read this comment.

It's in the interest of MangaUpdates to stay as far as possible from "scandal" and not siding with any scanlator in particular. If it were for me, I'd have submitted plenty of articles to MU about how scanlators get DDoSed and how aggregators get credits and trick users into paying subscriptions.
That's not MangaUpdates' dish.

But, that's what you're linked to by not supporting the removal of this person. I couldn't care less about aggregators that behave, but I certainly care if it comes down to my site being bombed by spam from China, my releases being uploaded anyway, and used to sell unlicensed merchandise along with it. It's far beyond just rehosting.

While I don’t care if you cheated during your exams, it should be in the interest of MangaUpdates to at least ensure their staff doesn't openly disregard of the source of MangaUpdates' data.
I would love to say that it's suicidal for your ecosystem to do so, but the fact that MangaFox still exists and gets larger by the passing day, proves that disregarding the source just makes you leaps more powerful.

What if this person worked for years? It doesn't matter. He worked for –apparently– free, and the leading position shouldn't be his payment for having worked here, especially when he could abuse it. His payment was being able to be the first to grab the releases to upload.
I thought he was checking if the release existed, whenever he came in our channel to download them. In truth, he was getting them for uploading elsewhere, and then announcing on MangaUpdates. Several aggregators pay the large uploaders, and he was on the fast lane.

Scanlators are really tired of things like the above happening. I can understand not knowing as much as active scanlators do, since it’s a dispersed community.
Now that I explained the situation in more detail, still without deepening my discussion too much, I suppose you can take proper action.

I’d like MangaUpdates to stay out of it, proactively.

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» T1 on August 8th, 2011, 5:54am

I have to agree with woxxy on this;
Acting like you don't know anything isn't a good enough reason when you have a tard on your team that actually act the total opposite. So because of this tard mangaupdates is acting actively and against the scanlation community.

You have to remember that when you have an organisation and someone in that organisation does something bad then it represents the whole organisation.

I can't see why this has to be that big an issue. Go check if the guy is the same on mangafox and mangaupdates, if he is then kick him out. I'm quite sure that it's not mangaupdates policy to let people earn money on something that is free. Just like it's forbidden to sell your translation skills via mangaupdates.

PS: If you really cheated on the test in 7th class then you are a mean person. You took the rank from someone who could have gotten it and you did by cheating. Now think how you affected that persons and the other's under him who also lost a rank because you cheated and unfairly took that specific rank. No matter what we do it affects others, let's try to do our best with clean hearts and no vile intentions, k? Or not try to earn money on someone else's free work.

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» Manick on August 8th, 2011, 2:35pm

We are currently investigating.

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» T1 on August 27th, 2011, 3:29pm

So any progress in the investigation or are you still investigating? I think we would be happy to know the result which we already kinda knows but just for the sake of the investigation, you know.^^

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» ZeroDC on August 29th, 2011, 12:19pm

Yes, please.

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» tjoolfoo on September 5th, 2011, 1:09am

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» gaara877 on September 5th, 2011, 8:07pm

don't do that... I'm the first one to download if the manga release. If you put password then why don't just keep it for yourself and release at the end of the week. How about that? there is no solution unless the scanlator delay the manga for them self for 24 hour before publish it, that the only solution. If they keep that then rule 24-hour delay will never exist.

2 thing:
1) The manga site respect them (which almost human hard to listen)
2) The scanlator keep the manga for 24 hour, which the reader will also have to wait. (But rule 24-hour delay will gone) and don't worry if you don't tell us we will never know cause we are powerless, we just wait for them to release. XD

Who to blame? choose

(Manga site [just doing their job] ,scanlator [who has the power] or the reader [who know to read only])

I blame the reader the most, because of them the manga site is greedy to make money and to fulfill the hunger of the reader and the scanlator have to work harder to release the manga fast because of them. (include me) IMO XDDD

Because we are human RESPECT is important.

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» gaara877 on September 5th, 2011, 8:19pm

one more this is the greatest solution among the greatest:

Why don't the mangaupdates respect the scanlator group by not showing the release. 24 hour delay. After 24 hour after that then they show it. Cool. Now choose who has the power to do such thing. The only thing in my mind is mangaupdates itself. fair right. Scanlator should talk to mangaupdates to delay it because mangaupdates is the biggest information for manga site XDDD.

The biggest power the biggest responsibility. Mangaupdates have such power. Manga site actually powerless.

Power ranking:

1) Scanlator
2) Mangaupdates
3) Manga site
4) reader

Top 2 have the power to make thing happen XDD

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» GhostWriter on September 6th, 2011, 5:20am

The Manga Sites would just have to subscribe to Scanlator sites by say RSS and then they get their information and the chapter anyway. So sadly neither impact on the Manga Sites nor their leechers, but MU will be delayed for a day. ^^°

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» RevanRevanchist on September 8th, 2011, 9:14pm

Sorry about the delay on this... I only just noticed myself that this thread existed. There is a solution that has been implemented, though I daresay that many of you would not be happy with the actual solution were I at liberty to divulge the details. Unfortunately, that is lambchopsil's right and not mine, as he was the one to administer the punishment to the mod in question.

As a release mod (though a rather new one - it was right before the original post when I sent in my application), I would like to personally apologize to any scanlation sites/staff members that were affected by this. I have been a long time supporter of scanlation sites, no matter what their wait period may be (though I may disagree with a few of the longer ones), and I am especially sad to hear about the end of Shi-Ki. I hope that The-One will go on to troll more people than any other in history, as he is a brilliant troll.

I will also suggest to someone higher up than me (probably Manick) that all mods be regularly checked for accounts on the various manga reading sites from time to time, as the power granted by the moderator position is far too tempting if one has such accounts (since we're the first to find out other than followers of the group).

Again, I apologize for the delay on this, as you all deserved to know the instant that a solution was proposed, and I apologize to any groups that were affected by the improper actions of any MU release mods.

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