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Previous Poll Results:
Question: Do you get angry when people criticize or make fun of a series that you love?
Choices:
Yes! I tell them off! - votes: 1140 (9.1%)
I get angry but don't react - votes: 2119 (16.9%)
I get mad and leave - votes: 224 (1.8%)
I reason with them and explain why I love it - votes: 3508 (28%)
I don't care what other people say - votes: 5551 (44.3%)
There were 12542 total votes.
The poll ended: December 1st 2012
(Excluding the people who don't care)
I actually expected more people to not react at all. Passivity and all that... But at least many people are reasonable!
Comments (limited to first 100 replies)
» auriga on December 1st, 2012, 1:57am
I haven't tried shipping raw tankobons from Japan yet (I plan to), but from what I've seen the prices in Amazon Japan are *less than* half the prices we have here. That doesn't include shipping, though.
» p3pelepe on December 1st, 2012, 2:06am
but I bought them anyway...
I guess I'm lucky since I can buy most manga that I want, but maybe for some people the price is still too expensive.
» deadphoenix on December 1st, 2012, 4:30am
Omg, that's cheap it's around $11-$15 for me, so it's over a Rp1,000,000 (I could be wrong with conversion, but that is cheap).
Also, their are a lot of manga that cost even more, the large ones are easily over $30
Their is an exception, and that is second chose, they are around the $2.5.
But strangely enough, second hand gets prices up to $100, other people would have heard of it. "Look this is out of print, so it just costs around $795... (yeah, it's the highest price I've ever seen for one manga volume).
» jrdragon2003 on December 1st, 2012, 8:22pm
» ns2np5 on December 1st, 2012, 5:06am
» uzumakiwalid on December 1st, 2012, 7:14am
» deadphoenix on December 1st, 2012, 8:05am
That is only done by English publishers in the USA, the ones published in Europe have still the double cover and high quality paper.
The problem with the publishers in the USA is the high tax rate on manga, it's 3 to 4 times the tax than in most countries in Europe.
» uzumakiwalid on December 1st, 2012, 8:20am
Right now(the time of writing) the prices are average Rp.16.000 for regular shonen and shoujo, Rp. 18.000-20.000 for average adult-oriented manga, Rp. 25.000~for color manga, Rp. 20.000-Rp. 35.000 for bunkoban. All in all average $1.70-$4.00. How do you think about that price?
» amused90 on December 1st, 2012, 9:13am
tl;dr I don't mind with qualities as long as I can read and collect licensed manga.
So yeah they're pretty cheap. But it also means I'd like to collect more manga than intended. If I summed up the amount of manga I bought in a month, my manga purchases would be quite expensive too lol.
» caitnap on December 2nd, 2012, 12:09am
it's just because our currency compared to USD, Rp 9,000= 1 USD
you can eat one filling meal for 10,000. 30,000+ for a meal in mall.while manga is already 20,000 to 30,000? it used to be only 9,000. and...you won't just bought one or two, but several other manga too, when combined I could spend over 200,000 just for 10 mangas O.o per month.
btw imported novel (english) cost around 150,000-200,000 usually (paperback), while local novel is around 50,000(?), while translated version is a bit more expensive.I don't follow them. english translated manga 80,000 to 100,000. I like the Imported novel,but yeah the price...i might save some money to buy one once in a while.
guess,you could say it's average when you compare the price to various things. I rarely buy them, because I don't see them worth it, since I only read once. I rarely ever bought any now, realization on how hard it is to work for money does make me feel really guilty to spend money to buy a one time read book. I always have small pocket money for my daily meal,and what I want to buy (manga,novel,dvd,etc) I started control how much I use them, they aren't much. If I spend to much I will go without meal at school...
» amused90 on December 3rd, 2012, 3:12am
There are cheaper pocket-sized novels in paperback at Kinokuniya which cost around Rp 80,000. Even the licensed/translated version is around the same price or more expensive. English-translated manga mostly published by Viz (US) and Chuang Yi (SG) are cost more than Rp 100,000 these days! I ordered Strobe Edge roughly 2 weeks ago and it cost me Rp 123,000 (12.80$ USD) which is pretty expensive. Imported Japanese tankoubons (reg) after taxes and customs cost around Rp 88,000 - 95,000 (9.80$ USD/813 Yen) and I'm following 3 titles Also, monthly magazines like Betsuma or Betsucomi are around the same price. Now I can conclude, imported manga cost more than novels here. If not, they're relatively the same depends on genres and sizes.
Whether they're worth it or not it differs from one person to another. But at least getting the Indonesian-licensed manga won't hurt your pocket as much as getting the English/Viz ones. I'm still amazed to those who gets their WSJ fix on print each week with price five times more than the original price while English scanlations are out relatively almost a week before its release in Japan. I understand if they're getting the tankoubons for the sake of collection but the magazines, really? Must be a hardcore fan? Still unreasonable to me though
» CuthienSilmeriel on December 1st, 2012, 2:12am
Back home new manga would be £7 (about 1000 yen).
» veendey on December 1st, 2012, 2:54am
» tactics on December 1st, 2012, 3:46am
Viz are probably the cheapest, and that's around £7. Any other licensed manga is around £8 - £15. It adds up pretty fast.
Forbidden Planet do a lot of 3 for 2 on the manga that Viz license, so that helps a little.
But overall, I think it's expensive, and prices are only going to rise.
» rakisei on December 1st, 2012, 3:51am
» voraciouszest on December 7th, 2012, 2:04pm
The problem in Australia is that English language publishers are in USA and it costs Australian companies to import the books, therefore the the prices of the books are inflated.You'd like to think that things would be different with AUD being worth more than USD at the moment, but no.
» connerity on December 1st, 2012, 4:00am
The paper quality usually sucks a lot, though.
non-mainstreamseries can be a lot more expensive.
Not super expensive but also far from cheap.
For comparison, novels usually go for about 8-12€, hardcover novels for 14-22€.
» Ame_Sama on December 1st, 2012, 4:53am
» StaticHD on December 1st, 2012, 6:02am
Barnes & Noble is the last store I went to buy manga, and they ridiculously suck when it comes to pricing manga. A Yaoi (Gay-Homo) series for $0.99, but a regular shoujo & shounen series gets escalated to $7-$12. To me, the money is not a problem (I probably could buy the whole store if I wanted) it's just that they'll lose allot of teen buyers that way.
These days, I prefer buying series online. Not because it is cheaper, but because of larger variety. Bookstores these days are limited to what is popular which limits the buyer's reach on what they actually want.
» juls91 on December 1st, 2012, 6:21am
» Fukkatsu-san on December 1st, 2012, 7:29am
» sudsong on December 1st, 2012, 8:01am
» arouraleona on December 1st, 2012, 8:19am
» FullArmageddon on December 1st, 2012, 9:16am
» Shibiusa on December 1st, 2012, 9:46am
Also, we don't have any manga publishers here, so even the bookstores have to order it from another countries. I've seen french, spanish and english editions here, even though the french and the english ones are in a much larger scale. The only series that is being translated to portuguese is Dragon Ball xD (and it's sooooooooo slow)
» renseih on December 1st, 2012, 9:58am
Well, it's even cheaper for second hand manga especially in bulk, but since the payment and shipping methods all varies, too troublesome so I never bought any. Besides, they usually come from rental stores stapled and stamped.
Still, I'm lucky to born speaking Chinese. From the bottom of my heart I pity those who have to pay $10 for a small selection... by that I mean, my friends (and the past me).
» sophie0 on December 1st, 2012, 10:18am
» Furan on December 1st, 2012, 12:41pm
» evilcleo on December 1st, 2012, 4:39pm
» switchgear on December 1st, 2012, 5:20pm
» greydrak on December 1st, 2012, 6:15pm
Thing is, those same volumes is half that on Viz's app on the iOS, at ~$4.99 a volume, it's a steal compared to normal comics like DC/Marvel where you pay up to $3.99 for only 20 pages.
The printed version still cost about $10+, sigh, it's a pain now to decide which version to get, cheaper but dependent on battery life, or more costly but take it anywhere..
» Badkarma on December 1st, 2012, 7:00pm
Ummm...
And the added benifit of carrying your entire library on a single device as opposed to lugging around a dozen books has no appeal to you?
Just sayin'...
» KJacket on December 1st, 2012, 8:25pm
Just sayin'...
I personally like the feel of reading off normal paper over a screen but if you want to carry a library around of course electronic copy is easier. Normal novels would be better to carry around in print for the time than manga which doesn't take too long to read.
~15CAD after taxes for a printed book. Actually around the same for some paperbacks but manga usually come in 5+ volumes so added together it's much more expensive. Selected average however, going by single book.
» Naoli on December 1st, 2012, 6:47pm
» mannyneves on December 5th, 2012, 2:29pm
» imercenary on December 1st, 2012, 9:45pm
That said, I live in the U.S and manga prices can vary between $7~16 USD (not counting collections/omnibus/multipacks/etc) and thats not TOO expensive. Kinda.
The REAL problem is that some series drag on for sooooooooooooooo long that I flat-out refuse to buy/collect them (theres no way in hell I'm buying 50+ volumes of Bleach at $~10 USD each) or (in rare cases) they're simply dropped mid-series (the seven volumes of Keroro Gunsou I already bought got donated to the library; cause, guess what? I don't know Japanese and therefore can't finish reading the series! ).
» 0oKat~0 on December 1st, 2012, 10:39pm
English translated mangas are the ones that typically costs a bomb to buy, it's around SG$11 (US$9~), give or take couple of dollars depending on the publisher. So I would usually stay away from those, despite the fact that I'm more comfortable reading manga in english :/
I've always bought chinese- translated manga to save my wallet... And I'll probably stick with that. Unless the eng-trans manga's price drops to a more reasonable level.
» nowyat on December 1st, 2012, 11:21pm
(Sometimes I am really excited to buy a manga I really want but it arrives and I discover it is printed in French or German. *blush* I need to read the descriptions more closely. Wish I was smart enough to learn a foreign language. I have a few original Japanese manga, but it's not very satisfying.)
I earn 11.45 an hour. Just for your info. A livable wage here, used with discretion and my work is often fun.
(Yay! Tin-tin!)
» TaoPaiPai on December 2nd, 2012, 8:10am
translated manga to my language would be around 8-10 depending on comapny
us/british versions would be around 13-15
if you compare it to other western comics here like Spiderman,X-Men,Star Wars comics,constant reprints of tintin, its extreamly cheap [they cozt like 10usd for around 60 pages each month and the belgium-french stuff can cost up to 25 if its "highbrow" popular shit like tintin]
» metalangel123 on December 2nd, 2012, 2:48pm
I was actually gonna buy Yotsuba&! until I found someone on there selling it for $1.75. Another ad was of a comic book store that closed and was selling new manga for $2 each (they were still in their protective wrapping, too ^^).
And of course, there's always the library, which sells good condition to falling apart mangas at $0.50, or does deals like 3/$1 or even 10/$1 !
So yeah, I'm pretty lucky these days when it comes to buying manga. I only wish I was as lucky as when it comes to buying anime DVDs T_T ($15- $25 for a movie! I'm a jobless highschool student dammit!)
» Paikiej on December 3rd, 2012, 4:30am
We have some online sellers that sell cheaply though. Archonia, for example, charges about €7-8 for a volume of One Piece. Now, I don't think that's very expensive.
» ivypaw1 on December 3rd, 2012, 7:15am
» forror on December 3rd, 2012, 4:12pm
» ilovebhong on December 3rd, 2012, 4:24pm
» eito on December 5th, 2012, 2:48am
1.: What do I want, good translation quality (=even readable sentences may be something great depending on the publisher, right? ), good paper quality, good editing, redrawn sfx?
2.: How much is the average income in the given country? (and I'm not talking about students, but actual working people )
3.: How does it compare to usual books?
4.: How does it compare to other countries?
5.: Is the price reasonable with the given market for manga -> obviously japanese publishers can go with much cheaper prices per volume if they sell 5-50(?) times what U.S. publishers would sell.
In my personal case, I'm a sucker for quality, so I usually buy the U.S. version of a volume, even if it's availlable from a local publisher. Twice the price (12-15 € for a viz volume in contrast to 5-7 € per local volume) and yet I think it's totally reasonable. And much better at that, I've seen more than enough local volumes with totally obvious redraws and totally lousy texts -> 2-3 € would have been more than enough for that garbage.
» lodanaht on December 25th, 2012, 1:54am
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