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Despite these changes, our release and group submission policies remain the same. Releases must be from scanlation groups that exist according to MangaUpdates, meaning they must have a group entry. In order to have a group entry, the group still needs to submit one or more of the following: website, forum, Twitter, Facebook, and IRC channel. The website and forum will not be displayed anywhere on MangaUpdates though. These pieces of information will be for our own purposes in order to verify the existence of a release. We continue to strive to display accurate information for all series, groups, and releases, so we will check the validity of every submitted release. If you feel a release is fake, you can submit a Change Request, and we will double check your claim.
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» hamzah555 on December 3rd, 2013, 9:29pm
» ughman on December 4th, 2013, 1:56am
Its like reading yellow pages just list of names blank telephone numbers.
This is totally bullshit.
» yuri999 on December 4th, 2013, 2:36am
Its like reading yellow pages just list of names blank telephone numbers.
This is totally bullshit.
I was searching for the right analogy to use but this hits the nail right on the head. In fact I suspect this will further damage the DMCA notice issuers cause because people will start learning even more google keywords and learn about the existence of more manga sites that they never would have otherwise known about.
» monkry on December 4th, 2013, 3:05am
Its like reading yellow pages just list of names blank telephone numbers.
This is totally bullshit.
beautiful comparison
» Daisukereds on December 4th, 2013, 5:10am
» zilentworld on December 3rd, 2013, 9:31pm
» Chinmay on December 3rd, 2013, 9:33pm
I'm just gonna have to go and make a Favorite toolbar folder with links to each group site, that should fill up within a month of all the manga groups I read manga from.
The future of freedom seems narrow!
IDK I feel like sites like this will need to head in the Crunchyroll route, despite most people hating it at the start, because of the lack of content over time it became an alright place!
I'm just saying the amount of manga I have bought plainly because of this site after reading many manga is to grand I can say probably in the last few years spent like $2500+ on manga and anime.
This site actually help, in that regards a connection with magazine group to this site would be nice.
Anyway for now as long as we have actuate database of manga in existence and its status this will still be the best manga database ever!.
» Bloodkay on December 3rd, 2013, 9:38pm
Keep up the good work, guys.
» makoz on December 3rd, 2013, 9:40pm
» licorice on December 3rd, 2013, 9:50pm
» deadphoenix on December 3rd, 2013, 10:00pm
It becomes rather difficult to moderate the releases without a link.
I've got the feeling that the one that gave the DMCA complain, just wants mangastreams homepage away.
Might it be possible to add releases from groups that release on online readers now?
It looks ok as long as the name of the reader doesn't appear.
Yesterday, I discovered one of my favourite series to be scanlated 50 chapters ahead.
Anyway, the most important thing about Mangaupdates is still the information and the ability to hold list.
I've tried to hold list with an excel document in the past, but this is impossible with the large variety of links that some series have.
New groups will be in problem now.
They release their stuff and the online readers runs away with it. Online reader become richer and the situation becomes worsen.
What are the license holders thinking, to give their arch enemy the control of the marked.
Non-profit sites like mangaupdates are the only ones that give them income (the minority of people that read scans,but also buy the real manga can be found on the non-profit sites. Their is more than enough proof for this (a lot of stuff that isn't scanned has a rating.)
» maine12329 on December 3rd, 2013, 10:54pm
» kitty1826x on December 3rd, 2013, 10:06pm
I see how a notice got sent, sad that it did though
» kayue on December 3rd, 2013, 10:13pm
It would take one more step for us to find the group, but such a list shouldn't be illegal.
(I wonder who filed the DCMA. It would have to be pretty generalized to affect all titles.)
Edit: Also, weirdly enough, I suspect that this will make the situation worse for the "legitimate" sources of manga since it will drive readers to aggregate sites since it will be "easier" to find titles there.
» philip72 on December 3rd, 2013, 10:23pm
This sounds excessive. Some of us here (not me) are lawyers and law students and would like a chance to peruse it.
» panos on December 3rd, 2013, 10:32pm
» philip72 on December 3rd, 2013, 10:51pm
This is all quite suspicious, they haven't even told us who the shady group who issued this extremely overreaching takedown notice is, and there's no legal reason why they can't.
I think MangaUpdates has been cowed and intimidated by aggressive legal posturing. The takedown submitters representative probably can't believe their great fortune in that it actually worked. Of course they're fine with removing all the links, they hadn't a leg to stand on to begin with.
» philip72 on December 3rd, 2013, 10:30pm
Something doesn't seem right here.
» kihi on December 3rd, 2013, 10:50pm
publisher in a nutshell
» REGIS_JOSE on December 3rd, 2013, 11:12pm
» Lilanar on December 3rd, 2013, 11:12pm
» Milleniummaster18 on December 3rd, 2013, 11:25pm
In my opinion, whoever group's threatening to sue is overextending their hand. It might be a bogus claim.
» mysstris on December 4th, 2013, 12:06am
this isn't going to stop me from continuing to use this site though, it's not like I don't know how to use google.
» misc on December 4th, 2013, 12:11am
F**k this s**t!!!
A fourth of what I've read depends on the links provided here damn it, because I read a lot of doujinshis, and you're going to go through hell if you try to find those doujinshis' scanlators' websites through google. I don't understand the legal procedures very well but can't there be like, an option for scanators to decide whether they want to publicise their websites or not? I'm sure a lot of scanlators would want, no, NEED such option, since big names probably won't be affected by this but what about new groups that haven't established a name for themselves yet? How are they supposed to advertise their works, and what the hell am I supposed to do now to visit 'young' scanlators when I don't even have any mean?
» bakaliner on December 4th, 2013, 12:26am
» red255 on December 4th, 2013, 12:37am
sorry. I could ask about what form the DMCA notice came to cow you into action. what exactly it took for you to effectively shut the site down.
Obviously this is a developing situation.
but your actions have removed any reason for me to visit this site.
so unless you do something by the time I check back in a few days I'm going to never visit again.
sorry. the sad thing is, I don't even think you got an actual notice. from WHO exactly?
» Hostile on December 4th, 2013, 4:38am
» pyonk on December 4th, 2013, 12:45am
can someone help me understand why this is happening but site like mangafox continue to exist?
i mean, if posting hyperlink to scanlation site is illegal and they ask to take it down, why online reader still standing?
» eirini_kl on December 4th, 2013, 12:52am
» pyonk on December 4th, 2013, 1:31am
This is suspicious, really.
This DMCA things really pain in the ass. but oh well, we are in a grey area anyway.
I live in third world country where there is no DMCA-shit around except a tight censor for pornography where even Mangafox and other online-reader manga site is blocked by nawalaproject-shit from my shitty gvernment for porn reason
» GuttedGnome on December 4th, 2013, 12:56am
» coa88 on December 4th, 2013, 12:57am
» Mercenary09 on December 4th, 2013, 12:59am
» Reyalsdog on December 4th, 2013, 1:00am
And MU wasn't good with links to begin with, and now it's only updates and catalog. Yes, updates and manga catalog is important, but finding those updates will be a pain in the ass, not to mention finding old releases. And you know it's only beginning.
» eirini_kl on December 4th, 2013, 1:05am
» Damnedman on December 4th, 2013, 1:07am
» Hinokai on December 4th, 2013, 1:09am
How absurd.
» Unrequited on December 4th, 2013, 1:14am
» Zuan on December 4th, 2013, 1:17am
I would love to see the DMCA notice. As probably many, such as myself, have been a member for many years (6 for me as of last month) it would be nice to be able to see, confirm and argue its validity. Any other site that I have ever been a member of that has received a DMCA at least gave us the courtesy of presenting it.
» PROzess on December 4th, 2013, 1:39am
It's sad to see it come to an end like this.
Thanks for all the efforts up to this point.
RIP
» zenaku2005 on December 4th, 2013, 1:42am
More importantly the DMCA have no rights to shut down sites that are not hosting/uploading copyrighted material, Take MediaFire for example the links that contains the copyrighted materials were just taken down while those that weren't under the DMCA stayed up.
So removing the links to sites that may or may not contain materials under the DMCA makes sense as much as this
While it's true that some sites where taken down due to posting links but in all instant these links were HYPERLINKS in other words click-able links, Posting non click-able links as a normal text should be O.K. otherwise it will violate the First Amendment of Constitution and if they can do that will....
» pyonk on December 4th, 2013, 2:02am
This. why dont we do this? it makes sense.
although i dont really know how wide DMCA apply on this, whether posting web or site address with normal text considered as infrigement or not. If not, can we just use this method?
» Lilanar on December 4th, 2013, 2:36am
More importantly the DMCA have no rights to shut down sites that are not hosting/uploading copyrighted material...
So true. It's really fishy. And I don't know why only one other site comes to my mind that no one has been able or really tried to stop it even when they're hosting popular copyrighted/licensed series.
» brunoais on December 4th, 2013, 5:29am
The problem here is the "enabling" part of the agreement. So it still is possible but reeeealllllly suspicious.
» romance20 on December 4th, 2013, 2:00am
» Rashidisw on December 4th, 2013, 2:13am
while they mostly can't monetized the ads on their facebook & twitter link, as those ads revenues goes directly to facebook & twitter companies.
» gwkimmy on December 4th, 2013, 2:14am
if so...sjdlasjdlkjalkjdaldjaskljdlaj
» connerity on December 4th, 2013, 2:23am
Foremost, the removal of links for ALL groups, not just ones where there is actually material that falls under the DMCA.
Sounds to me like someone from a profiteering online reader like mangafox wants to make some more profit by making scanlators harder to reach.
» En Do on December 4th, 2013, 2:28am
also, anyone notice this sentence?
"The representative of the group that submitted the DMCA has so far said these actions are enough."
so there are figureheads huh...
» legadon on December 4th, 2013, 2:33am
I agree with so many people in this thread that I don't even know what to quote... please say something lambchopsil...
» annebel on December 4th, 2013, 3:03am
Only to think about your database and the daily releases will disappear one day makes me mad.
» derpMonster on December 4th, 2013, 3:28am
» Cainam on December 4th, 2013, 3:32am
What I get is that all the groups link and IRC are forbidden and limited to just facebook and twitter. So it's alright then if a group have either facebook or twitter and put their site link there. Or maybe some kindhearted people can make a fan page in facebook a kind of manga updates which create notes filled with groups' links.
» tactics on December 4th, 2013, 3:34am
Well this is bullshit.
I agree with whoever said that you should keep the website address there, but not link it. If that makes any difference. I don't see how linking to a website is bad in the first place. The downloads I could understand, but this? Rubbish.
Same old though. Hit the easy targets. Never go for the big guns.
Asshats.
» Gleam on December 4th, 2013, 4:05am
Why MU staff so weak for pressure? The demand to remove link just to the one whole site where infringing links MAY BE posted is already pushing it. The demand to remove all links indisciminately is nothing less than outrageous, because, if nothing other, there's no company which has full copyright to ALL manga mentioned on MU.
Why Google's stance can't be employed? If someone sending them letter about some search engine results, they check, if sender REALLY has the right for mentioned material and if material is really beyond fair use, and only THEN google remove links. With mentioning who was sender and which links (in plain text) was removed.
P.S. Maybe I should start to search another source of information. With current state of things this one may not live long.
» kuraixdesu on December 4th, 2013, 3:57am
But having said that, MU just needs another method to verify legit releases, which I thank you guys for working around this problem for us dedicated lurkers.
But if the updates are no longer provided... That's when I see red.
» Pionfou on December 4th, 2013, 4:08am
If you go to the scanlators site enough it's just Ctrl+T-address, which might even be faster. Slightly annoyed this happened after I deleted my collection of bookmarks of scanlator websites because it turned out to be mostly useless but oh well.
» Kitsame on December 4th, 2013, 4:18am
Someone told you to remove html links to other sites and you complied?And not just specific sites, but all of them?And you did it?
Are you guys retards?You were not keeping DL links, you were just keeping html links to other sites and that is not law breaking offense.They can only send notice to scanlators since they are official law-breakers.
Also, since you deleted all html links they are "satisfied"?Sounds like you got conned hard.
And what is the point of your site, now that you deleted links to other sites?
» ampzz on December 4th, 2013, 4:43am
Good fucking bye to this.
» sunao26 on December 4th, 2013, 4:44am
I'd rather not have any links anymore if that means MU won't go down. Thanks guys for your great work as always. I've been using this website for 9 years now haha.
» caitnap on December 4th, 2013, 5:17am
guess I will sport "Google" on another tab each time I come here
» turek101 on December 4th, 2013, 5:28am
Someone suggested if u can post link without directlink it would help to go faster to groups homesites is it possible ?
and btw some sites change they country of server just to make money and they dont give a **** about groups why they dont they accuse them instead
» yuri999 on December 4th, 2013, 6:09am
» ayumisingo on December 4th, 2013, 6:10am
» cris0327 on December 4th, 2013, 6:40am
» 668 on December 4th, 2013, 7:07am
» cmertb on December 4th, 2013, 7:07am
This means pretty much the death of most scanlator web sites (and of MU as well). Scanlators will be working for Mangafox, Mangareader etc even more than in the past. It's a huge win for online readers. Do I want to continue scanlating in this environment? I'm not sure anymore.
» 90tables on December 4th, 2013, 7:32am
» licorice on December 4th, 2013, 7:35am
» licorice on December 4th, 2013, 7:42am
Maybe we should the servers to Canada...
» GuttedGnome on December 4th, 2013, 8:46am
Maybe we should the servers to Canada...
Well, that's the issue, linking to the homepage of a scanlator group is as much copyright infringement as linking to Google or even The Pirate Bay homepage. Whoever sent that DMCA notice couldn't hold their ground in any serious law abiding court.
Now, if it was a link (hot, hyper or magnet linking etc) directly to an infringing file that's obviously different.
» yasew on December 4th, 2013, 7:43am
Move server to Asia >Ignore DMCA
» Reyalsdog on December 4th, 2013, 7:50am
https://github.com/MilesWilford/MangaUpdatesImprover
» maskokot on December 4th, 2013, 8:11am
On Release page, it adds LINK next to group link that does Google search for you in new page.
I came up with this in like 5 min. It works for Opera as User JavaScript.
// ==UserScript==
// @name Add Group Links
// @include http://www.mangaupdates.com/releases.html*
// ==/UserScript==
(function (){
for (var i = 0; document.links[i]; i++)
{
if (document.links[i].title == 'Group Info')
{
// change the link
var a = document.createElement('a');
a.title = document.links[i].innerHTML + "Link";
a.innerText = "LINK";
a.target = "_blank";
a.href = "http://www.google.com/search?q=" + encodeURIComponent(document.links[i].innerHTML +" manga group");
document.links[i].parentNode.appendChild(document.createTextNo de (" "));
document.links[i].parentNode.appendChild(a);
}
}
})()
» iceaco on December 4th, 2013, 8:13am
» kainord on December 4th, 2013, 8:38am
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