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» kaloo on June 11th, 2010, 8:25pm
» CatzCradle on June 11th, 2010, 8:41pm
» asudake on June 11th, 2010, 8:46pm
That being said, I thought this should have been the next logical step, because let's be honest, The Internet is pretty unstable in terms of content. The minute you have something online, It'll stay online, and the more Publisher's and Their respective Artist refuse to see that it'll be their downfall. Don't fight it, but join it, is what I say.
The guys at MangaHelpers deserve a big round of applause. *Clap clap clap clap clap*
I approve of this plan!
» VawX on June 11th, 2010, 8:57pm
But the main problem come from the idea itself :
1/ How will the income for the site, mangakas, and others involved in this project gathered?
is it donation, membership, or some new sistems?
But well this first problem maybe already thought carefully by their team, so i don't really disturbed by this one
2/ They have contacted some mangakas and all of them (70 with the data at mangahelpers) are appreciate this idea...
Then, all of us know, there are such tremendous number of mangaka out there. Not only from Japan but also from Korea and China. Can they get approval from most of them? Some mangakas who don't sell really well maybe not really that hard to be invited, because they don;t really have a constant income, so this one can be viewed as something profitable. But for mangakas who sell million copies of tankobon may see this as threat. And some others may have other reasons for saying no. And in the end the fans will still search for a free scanlation that labeled as "illegal" (i really hate to say this).
there are still something that bother me but i guess this two example can at least express my worry about OpenManga. Though i still want to see the realization of this project and see wether it will become a "solution" or a "disaster"
» Aeylis on June 11th, 2010, 9:30pm
» Achiyugo on June 11th, 2010, 10:00pm
» derpMonster on June 11th, 2010, 10:47pm
Japanese publishing houses charge exorbitant amounts of money for licensing - that's why American publishing houses mostly choose series that have wide appeal - Naruto, Bleach, Maid Sama - shoujo/shounen. They also don't touch the risque content like Kodomo no Jikan or KissxSis.
i love this idea but i think a lot more money will need to be involved - in the millions - for OpenManga to operate like CrunchyRoll.
Even then, i doubt they can make all content international - there are local publishing houses that will oppose to these licenses as well. Just like how not all crunchyroll shows are available to Europe, South America and Asia because of Animax and stuff.
» boushi16 on June 11th, 2010, 10:01pm
» Sugarblossoms on June 11th, 2010, 10:46pm
» Drakron on June 11th, 2010, 10:57pm
You know were the money is on manga? volume sales, license fees and merchandising ... this give nothing, go ask Kubo were he gets the money from ... you can be sure its not from the WSJ sales.
It seems after their plan failed (not "too many walls" but "impossible to work") they come with this one, on one hand its not Tazmo II but in the other hand its pretty damn clear they are really just trying to make a buck.
» kazewa on June 11th, 2010, 11:35pm
I don't see the point of publishers (jp) x mangakas (jp) x world wide fans cooperating.
I can only see publishers (jp) x mangakas (jp) x publishers (all except jp) cooperating (license etc stuffs).the whole time.
Beside, I'd rather the mangakas create their story, from the start to the end, genuinely from their own idea; not composed, mixed, and maybe bended by fans' opinion / feedback, even if that's make the story looks better. Because that means it isn't original anymore.
» Sugarblossoms on June 11th, 2010, 11:48pm
» Marduk on June 12th, 2010, 12:22am
it seems as though the people who support this idea the most are wishing and pining to make their manga hobby a their dream job, problem is that for their dream to come true they dont mind destroying the rest of the scanning community.
» Achiyugo on June 12th, 2010, 12:54am
» Sugarblossoms on June 12th, 2010, 1:28am
» Elairz on June 12th, 2010, 12:59am
Most probably only original series will be available..till OpenManga proven itself to be a good platform for mangaka to earn some income, my guess is most manga will be at doujinshi level.
» monkeyvoodoo on June 12th, 2010, 1:26am
Until traditional media outlets realize that in today's market, digital distribution is the only viable, long-term option, we're going to have this chasm between what fans want, and what publishers provide. And sadly, everyone loses in the end.
» naikan on June 12th, 2010, 1:57am
» coa88 on June 12th, 2010, 3:43am
» thevampirate on June 12th, 2010, 12:24pm
» SilentReader on June 12th, 2010, 6:01am
» Name-Undecided on June 12th, 2010, 8:54am
» leoak on June 14th, 2010, 9:27am
» flegmatikus on June 16th, 2010, 8:13am
1. Out of print manga that American and Japanese publishers think is unprofitable to reprint just because some lonely fan wants to read it.
2. Doujinshi. These are often times art for art's sake made by mangaka's. American publishers definitely will not even bat an eye to publish it and aging female american translators will piss on their panties from the unimaginable obscenities contained in them.
3. Start-up mangakas. They need the advertising to make them popular. I know that there are sites where self-published comic ( even music ) artist freely put their work over the internet to garner interest.
4. One shots. American publishers are only interested in serialized ones with a predictable stream of revenues. It does not makes sense to publish a oneshot without the fiscal data in Japan to support it.
5. Unlicensed manga. There are many mangas, especially the smutty ones that are not within the radar of american publishers.
I think it's a good idea but under certain conditions. Also, like pharmaceutical drugs, I think Manga and any other literature should have an expiration-date like patent. It's content is free after X years.
Also, I really hate it when GREEDY American Publishers just cash in on a japanese artist's work. They're just overhead cost. Rather, I would have the Japanese publisher translate the work, setup shop in the us, print it and tie-up with barnes and noble, amazon or some other bookstore for distribution. That way, revenues get sent to the japanese without some cocky american publishing mogul throwing a tantrum over scanlators providing faster and even better translation of a work.
» celinae on June 26th, 2010, 10:18am
:/ Even seventeen years is too long of a time frame for us, and I sincerely doubt that manga artists would ever agree to anything like it, even one of seventeen years, because asides from a few famous guys most of them struggle and put a huge amount of effort into their work.
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