Finally my signature is relevant.... Flat Is Justice!

That last one is just perfect for a comedy...
However all others have average.
People choosing impossibly large have never seen the real deal.

Big oppai FTW!

Japan is very well-known for its seemingly endless variety of big-breasted women(at least on the internet), we should cherish that. xD

I think below average would be just right for a character in a moe/comedy story

So, is the next poll about the penis size of our characters?

I choosed average, but i'm not sure how big is average, personally i like breast that fit in my hand, i don't mind a bit bigger then that, but not much.
I also don't mind small breast, but i hate ridiculously large breast.

your main character? Nothing about her should be average.

I chose above average. I don't want them to be so big that one can easily be bigger than her head xp

Depends on the character. I feel that her personality should reflect the environment she's had to deal with as a result of her body and other things. There are other factors which go into it such as her family and how her financial situation is to determine the amount of nutrition she would have had over her live time up until now.

Lastly it depends on the genre of manga I'm going for..

I believe I said average.. I don't know..
I'll just say a fair B cup or something (US).

P.S. Am I taking this too seriously? D:

While pettanko would have been the more interesting choice, I chose above average. If I were to create a manga, why stay not make my girls sexy as hell?

Note: For those of you who don't know what the average bust size is, it is a B-cup to C-up depending on the race (y'know, Asian vs African).

Tough choice between "flat-chested" and "tiny" but I chose tiny in the end. Just a little to show a slight bulge in profile view. Life is bliss.

I'm thinking of a strong female lead in a fantasy story. I chose "above average" bust size. I would have gone for "big", however I know how freaky the "impossibly big" can be and "big" can only be moderately less freaky. If we were talking about any culture other than that of Japan, I'd go for "big" bust size for my female MC.

I went for above average. It's actually pretty easy to get carried away when drawing breasts on female characters

貧乳はステータ スだ！希少価値 だ！

I went with average but personally I don't really care too much about breast size. A character with a nice ass on the other hand is more my thing.

Does "Average" in this case mean average in real life or average in a typical anime/manga?

Well I'm a female, so my female lead would probably resemble me.

In manga, I like them to 'make sense' for the character. If the girl is, say, a serious athlete, it's generally rare to see a lot of fat anywhere on her, including her chest. Anything involving a first year highschooler or younger should probably be pretty flat-chested as well unless she's a gaijin exchange student because, well, the Japanese generally are not really even started filling out at that age.

It's all about context. You'll note that there are very few busty characters in shoujo or josei. I'm guessing that's because all five busty japanese female readers don't mind, but the more average kabe-onna would mind a busty lead. I always thought the impossible udders on lots of hentai and ecchi shounen were rather lame, actually.

And, for the record as a heterosexual old guy with a life, my personal preferences run toward the middle of the range, as I found there were examples that were both 'just too big' and 'it'd be nice if there were something there besides ribs.'

I honestly wish that more female manga characters were drawn with more typical breast sizes. I may be in the minority here, but I do not find unrealistically massive breasts to be attractive. Unfortunately, female characters in most manga either have breasts that are completely flat or ridiculously large.

I seriously hate female chara with oversize boobs. unrealistic and turn me off.
maybe because i'm flat-chested one.
the only exception is One Piece. Dunno why those big breast doesnt irritate me like other manga.

I would make a character with above average chest size because chances are I would be basing the character off of myself and I have above an average chest size. As far as chest size goes in manga I like it to be realistic for the most part. Overly large as well as overly small (on high school or adult characters) bugs me. If the plot is good I can for the most part ignore it.

I like tiny breast cause it's often looks cute and even beautiful sometimes with slender girl, so I'll go with that.

I went with guy with manboobs. A love comedy parody involving such a thing would be awesome. Horror would work also...

The only thing I can say is that I did not expect a poll so low on this site.

I am disappointed. :/

Any female character I create will have all her physical features dictated by either the person she is created to resemble or to reflect her personality. Maternal ones will be above average. Athletic ones will be below average. The only time I would create a character with impossibly big ones is if she had megalomastia and I wanted to highlight the problems associated with such.

That being said, I do have a concept for a female character that's not maternal but has a large breast size. This is done for humor and, later on, dramatic reasons as the character has a mental condition in which she believes she is male, regardless of all the proof that says otherwise.

Given BU's previous polls, I don't believe anything is wrong with this one except the way it's worded. While is sounds as if breast size is a defining factor of female characters, I feel that would have just as easily asked about eye color, race, height or social preference.

If I ever create a manga I want people to concentrate on the plot and not the bust

While I adore breasts, I'm not particularly fond of reducing them into tools of fanservice. Sometimes it's lovely to see some jiggling action but most of the time, I hate when breasts are highlighted. They are part of human anatomy and the male gaze and obsessive fascination really sucks every inch of beauty out of carrying them around, watching and drawing them

Slightly above average is clearly the answer

Tru Dat

alot of people admitting their fat, well so am I. I guess 90% of manga readers are fat.

Personally as a flat-chested female (or maybe I should give myself some credit... below average, but just right/proportional to my body/figure), I tend to draw only smaller/flat-chested females. So I voted flat-chested, lol.

What's going on here? It's like I'm watching a talk show about feminism.
The poll does NOT imply:
a) that bust size is all that matters
b) that there's only one female character or that they're all the same
c) that all women are the same and can be reduced to their breasts.

ALL of that is simply your interpretation.

I wasn't assuming that it was a feminist point of view, I was simply making a comparison that was rather meant to be funny than serious. Anyway, you surely know what I mean.

I can understand people getting offended because they're being reminded about something they dislike, but there's no need for some people to overreact the way they did. In the end the poll is not saying that one size is better than another or asking what the "perfect" size is. It's simply asking for your personal concept of a female character in regard to her bust size (which is actually relevant in manga).

It's a poll, it's not meant to hurt anyone, so I hope people calm down a bit.

What I meant with "relevant" is that Japan is always exaggerating when it comes to the bust size. They're drawing them ridiculously large or small, unproportional or just unnatural when considering the age of the character. Bust size is actually a recurring topic in a lot of manga.
Mangaka don't draw hands or feet bigger than the character's head, but they do it with their breasts. So yeah, because of the way this is handled by the authors, it is relevant.

Once again, not talking about rl but about manga. (And with bust size being "relevant", I don't mean that the size matters but that the topic itself is relevant, reason above.)

The fact that this poll may or may not have been deliberately malicious in intent is completely besides the point. People can be sexist asses and still not intend to be. INTENT NEVER MATTERS. It's still sexist bullshit. And the reason why people don't get upset about hair/clothing etc, is because those are gender neutral things that affect everyone. Breasts are usually specific to those who identify as female. Those claiming it's a relevant topic because of marketing strategy are basically saying that misogyny sells, so why should women be upset at being degraded if misogyny sells so well? Come on, manga authors have to make a living too right? Except why does objectification sell so well in the first place? When people say sex sells, 90% of the time we know they're not referring to men in Speedos. Just because misogyny is so ingrained into our culture that it sells well, doesn't mean we should encourage it.

Besides, I'm frankly amazed at how the people in this forum have repeatedly reduced a woman's personality down to how big or small her breast size is, and people are still talking like this isn't about reducing a woman down to her breast size. Athletic women can have large boobs. I used to play basketball with a lot women who had bigger boobs than most in the school. There were also flat chested women on the team, seriously all the shit about a woman's personality/background/whatever affecting her boob size is bs. Poor women can have big boobs, and they can even be fat too since it's hard to afford healthy food that's so expensive. I know it's hard for men to realize but we aren't one monolithic group with specific boobs granted to specific types of people. Innocent girls can have large boobs and sexual women can be flat-chested, seriously stop with the stereotyping bullshit. Boobs are generally genetic and have nothing to do with anything else.

How we're treated because of our chest size can affect our personality, but not to the extent that it controls our lifestyle, unless there's a character with a serious complex about it, in which case misogyny is usually the base cause anyway.

Just because misogyny is popular doesn't ever mean it should be encouraged. Seriously what the hell is that type of argument anyway?

I personally took this poll from the point of view as a character designer. I thought that's what it was trying to get at. What sort of character designer would you be if you didn't take breasts into consideration when designing a female character? The poll isn't saying that breast size is the most important thing, it's just asking for your opinion on what you would do in that situation; If you were creating a female manga character and the next thing you had to do is decide her bust size.

People are allowed their opinions however. You can rant all you like, I don't really care. I'm not saying you're wrong. I just wanted to throw in, as another female point of view, how I interpreted the poll, and why I am, personally, not offended by it.

Oh dear. 'Bust size'? I do hope to keep things equal though, next week's poll will have something to do with 'nut size'! Jokes aside, really moderator(s), what were you thinking? You had all these great manga-relevant AND non-degrading polls before, and now this? Most of the male population here would be disgusted if the poll question was 'You are creating a manga with a male character, so the size of his penis is...". Why this 1950s b.s.? Come on!

I'm still not sure if I'd prefer a "nut size" or a "penis size" poll. I think the latter could be more fitting, but also potentially a bit too nsfw.

Wow, too many feminist extremists here. People like you are giving the whole movement a bad name with your aggressive and irrational behavior.

eh, I'm getting tired of a character's bust size being considered an important trait. we've sexualized breasts to the point where feeding babies has to be done in private.

there should be an "it doesn't matter" option for those of us who don't care about ecchi

Ehhh kinda a lame, double-standard poll, and it hardly has anything to do with manga. Can we get the male equivalent poll next time?

Bust size and penis size are not the same for the simple reason that one is visible and therefore relevant for character design while the other is not (excluding hentai). I'm quite a bit shocked how many people here are overlapping manga with reality. No, your personality does not define your bust size, thanks for pointing that out cpt. obvious (can't be bothered to quote now), but if you haven't noticed yet, we're talking about manga and not about women in real life.

If you were a character designer, you might just give the look of your character a little thought. That those happy-go-lucky athletic characters often have a flat chest or that maternal characters often have larger ones is a widely used cliche. You may have noticed, if you haven't started reading manga yesterday.

If all of your female characters are not going to have a torso, that's fine with me, but be fair enough to chop off the lower body part of all male characters

(I admit that I found the poll distasteful at first, but I realized that from an artistic point of view, it is a legitimate question. I'm not saying anyone is wrong for feeling offended, but calling anyone voicing his opinion a "chauvinistic pig" without a second thought is just... right, offending)

It wasn't directed at you, since you're being rather calm about the whole thing. Someone else said it somewhere before (still can't be bothered to quote though).

I honestly believe it's simply a matter of perspective. Just as much as I'm interpreting this poll in a non-offensive way, others are seeing it the other way round. There's probably no right or wrong, we're simply convinced of our own point of view.

Anyway, I didn't mean to offend anyone here, I just didn't like the way some people were talking here (no, not directed at you )

Objectification of women is so common I suppose it must be a shock to see it called out, but the problem with this type of poll is also the "average" choice. What people mean by average is completely different from person to person and depends on our surroundings and how we've been socialized to view women and what the "average" woman looks like.

Unfortunately, extremely harmful images what the average woman looks like permeate, particularly american, culture. The "average" representation given us on TV has increasingly thin women with increasingly larger boobs with figures that aren't available to most women without resorting to plastic surgery and/or extreme dieting, which often leads to severe eating disorders. Women's lower sense of self-esteem often comes from comparing themselves to an impossible "average" standard that just can't exist for most of us.

And the objectification of women is mainly disregarding the personal and intellectual abilities and capabilities of women, and reducing a woman's worth or role in society to that of an instrument for the sexual pleasure that she can produce in the mind of another.

Though notable exceptions exist, historically women have been valued mainly for their PHYSICAL attributes.

Billions of dollars are invested in making women unhappy with their bodies so they'll buy more and more products to meet an "average" standard that is never meant to be reached.

The repeated objectification of women, makes our bodies something to be consumed and stared at by men, and polls like this are a part of how society polices women's bodies to fit into a male accepted "average."

Men literally see women as objects to be used, it has been scientifically proven that the part of their brain activated when viewing a sexualized image of a woman is the same part that activates when they're about to use a tool. The reverse is not true. Men CANNOT be objectified, even by women who see sexualized images of men. Those men are still seen as HUMAN.

Standards for men are power fantasies set up by other men, and are often achieved with a little extra time at the gym lifting weights to gain muscle mass.

Standards for women are also fantasies set up by men, and are achieved through surgery, starvation, make-up, fashion, skin-care products, hair-care products, and a little extra time at the gym slimming down, but not building up too much muscle lest we become too masculine.

Polls like this are unacceptable because, yes anime and manga women aren't real, but they do represent images of real, though often idealized, women. And this poll is basically encouraging men to control/validate/make commentary on women's bodies, even if they are fictional, in an objectifying manner.

Yes decisions like this have to be made when drawing women, but this poll has one woman representing all women. Hence "a female character," thus the voting ends up representing what all women "should" look like. What people, particularly men, prefer.

I'm not saying mostly men vote on this poll. I'm also not saying this poll is going to drastically change a young woman's mind and make her think she should adjust her breast size to placate people on this site that she's never seen. This is just one of many thousands of influences young women will be subjected to.

This poll is what is called a micro-aggression. Micro-aggressions based in misogyny are brief and commonplace daily verbal, behavioral, or environmental indignities, whether intentional or unintentional, that communicate hostile, derogatory, or negative gendered slights and insults towards women.

So while it most certainly isn't the most horrible of all sexist sins, it is still something that shouldn't be encouraged and it is still something that is demeaning towards women.

Why some of us get so angry about micro-aggressions is because it's something that we deal with on a daily basis. This shit builds up over time and becomes intolerable after a while. I've lost patience and the ability or the desire to be kind to those who take part in and support shit like this. The legitimate anger and frustration that I feel at constantly being dehumanized has reached its limit.

I've been up for the past 48 hours so i'm not sure how much sense this makes, but damnit I'm tired and no longer care.

believing in reverse sexism is akin to believing in reverse racism, heterophobia and the easter bunny. These things don't exist. Men can be negatively affected by misogyny, yes absolutely. But it's hatred of the feminine and women that is at the root of their problems. Women's reactionary anger towards oppression will not ever be the same as oppression until there's an established matriarchy and women own the majority of the government, wealth and power. When men fear to walk the streets at night because a woman might attack and sexually assault or rape them, and when men are routinely disenfranchised and have to fight twice as hard to get half as much recognition and still get paid less than their female counterparts, then ya'll can come at me with "reverse sexism."

Ya'll are dead set in your ways, so I'm not going to go on much more with this because it really will be a waste of my time, but if ya'll legitimately want sources and aren't just flapping your jaw, check out Audrey Lorde, Bell Hooks, and Patiricia Hill Collins, they'll give you all the resources and proofs that you need and are asking for. Bell Hooks' Feminism is for Everybody is a good place to start and can be found for free online as can a few of their other works. I also suggest reading Michel Foucault's Discipline and Punish, and then reading Foucault and Feminism by Lois McNay. I am familiar with feminist theory and have learned much from them in my time even if I don't identify as one, there are still a lot of important things that feminist scholars focus on that others usually don't.

A psychological expert who focuses on gender theory is Anne Fausto Sterling, her work Sexing the Body: Gender Politics and the Structure of Sexuality would be a good place to start.

These are just jumping off points for you guys, but before you check out Foucualt, you'll probably need a working knowledge of post-structuralism.

A good site for you guys to visit would be derailingfordummies.com I'm not being cruel or condescending, this is a legitimate site that breaks down a lot of your objections and it's easy to understand and access.

Rayna Edwards also wrote an excellent book called, Responding to Gender-based Devaluation: The Relationship Between Microaggressions, Emotion, and Coping Strategies in Women and Gender Non-conforming Individuals.

If you guys are legitimately interested in sources to read and look at, here they are. Any social theorist worth their salt is aware of sexism, male privilege, and oppression. This is just the beginning, If you guys read all of these and want more, I have plenty more where that came from.

As for studying while ignoring all contrary evidence? I used to be exactly like you guys until I found all of the contrary evidence. So good luck.

I'm sorry, but I'm sure this poll is intended as an artistic question same as "do you prefer to draw squirrels with stripes or without?" and not to insult or for prejudice

If I'm wrong I'm wrong.

Er. Not caring... basically means... you shouldn't even feel the need to vote... Or look at the poll... You can ignore the poll! That's what it means to not care...? So why would you need an option for not caring...


Also.

Holy pooper scoopers!

This poll has stirred up much of the MU community! Why can't we just all enjoy b00bs and move along... So much text... I want to read it all... But... words everywhere!

Voted average though prefer my original female manga characters bust sizes to range from realistically big to tastefully below average.

On another note, I am disappointed with the low turnout for tiny and flat-chested. Pettankos need more love.