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New Poll - Manga Accessibility
It's a fairly generic poll suggested by FlyingMoose, but with our (the scanlation world's) current situation, this seems necessary.

You can discuss this poll on our forums here:
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=19939

You can submit poll ideas here:
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903

Previous Poll Results:
Question: Are you currently in a relationship?
Choices:
Yes - votes: 2298 (14.2%)
No - votes: 12357 (76.2%)
It's complicated - votes: 1565 (9.6%)
There were 16220 total votes.
The poll ended: July 24th 2010

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Posted by lambchopsil on 
July 24th 5:40am
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» weronique on July 24th, 2010, 8:06am

I am from a country where they don't sell manga, people usually have no idea what manga is or that those few "weird cartoons" u can find in tv are called anime... and personally i love the question:"manga? do u mean mango? wth? how can u read fruit? are u making fun of me?" and when i explain:"so... u are reading... comics... ?" (usually when u say comics in my country = comics for children >_>)

so for me the only way would be to purchase them from some english/french speaking(only foreign languages i know) countries and that means... definitely expensive... so i would be able to read what? one volume monthly maybe? *cries*

and i know how impatient i am, waiting for one chapter, so i cannot imagine waiting for whole volumes till they get licensed... ugh...

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» crazy_horse1989 on July 24th, 2010, 8:40am

I agree with all my heart to what the user i replied to said and I know this feeling fairly well.

If I want to read some Berserk, I have to order it online from Dark Horse, who do not release chapters, only volumes and I'm not sure I want to read 1-2 volumes per year, the rate at which volumes are currently released in Japan... AND they kind of censor everything, from language to images! It's a goddamn seinen, leave it as it is! And yeah, money... Suppose it won't be as bad for me, since I won't need to buy that many volumes in a year.

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» kawaiiairbender on July 24th, 2010, 6:31pm

where do you live?

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» crazy_horse1989 on July 25th, 2010, 4:41pm

Heh, not sure how many know this country, but Romania, situated somewhere In Eastern Europe. >_>

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» kawaiiairbender on July 25th, 2010, 4:50pm

Oh I do, I was wondering if you were perhaphs from Eastern Europe.

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» Lilith_Lancaster on July 24th, 2010, 8:10am

I chose "It would take more money than I can afford" since my salary is not that much. I buy my manga from Kinokuniya, but i still depend on scanlation for hentai and yaoi which are not allowed here. ^^

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» magnet_dance on July 24th, 2010, 11:40am

I'm from the UAE as well. You'll actually be surprised at how much yaoi manga I've been able to find XD

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» quark1020 on July 24th, 2010, 8:23am

I probably read the question wrong, since it would be hard to get my manga without the internet. I buy my manga online bigrazz.

In any case, for some reason, non of the nearby bookstores where i live sell manga. I have to drive a good hour to the nearest barnes and nobles to find manga. Heck, even american comic books are hard to find out in the real world. I haven't found a comic book store around either. 'Course, I haven't exacly been looking, they could be hiding.

<_< >_>

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» tagno25 on July 24th, 2010, 5:40pm

They are just hiding. Around here (Kansas City, Mo, USA) there are probably 10+ Comic book shops within 100+ Miles.

I voted "It would take more money than I can afford". I have bought 200-400 USD in manga, but to buy all the manga I have read online at USA prices then it would cost over $4000 (maybe over $10000). And most of the manga I read is not licensed in the USA, and some of it was licensed to CPM (so I cannot get it even if I want to)

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» naikan on July 24th, 2010, 8:29am

Ditto what the person above said: I buy my manga online. I don't fly to Japan just to purchase the raws. bigrazz Also, no bookstore I'm at ever has the volumes I want anyway.

Otherwise, I chose "Yes", it's impossible, because how would I even know this manga exists to buy it? I've been down the route of buying random manga in a bookstore based on it's blurb, and almost all of those purchases have been mistakes, whereas the internet researched ones (especially ones found via MangaUpdates' search engine) have always been great. Without the internet, I might buy 0.001% of the manga I do now.

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» MARCOW on July 24th, 2010, 10:23am

The question in the Manga poll was bad made for a yes/no question.

well, forget about the question, but, Yes, It would be impossible to read manga in my country, in nearby contries, and the whole region without the online manga readers, and I`m from Venezuela, so forget about the idea of some publisher trying to sell manga here, in my country has never been sold manga, and Why is that? Because first arrive the animation than the manga, so a very very few people would buy the manga of a serie,for purposes of collecting, That`s Why!!!. this is not a profitable business, in my country.

As far as I know, the only country in South America where manga is sold is Argentina, and there were a couple of times that the idea of buying the original volumes of my favorite manga was very attractive, even If I had had to travel to Argentina or had to buy them by mail, until I read the list of manga published by the editorial and publisher, and well, the manga of dragon ball had not yet been fully published, at that time the last saga dragon ball, dragon ball gt had been transmitted for the last time two years ago , After repeatedly retransmitting.

So, How do you expect to sell manga in my country to be profitable in these conditions?, and hey There a lot of people in my country who read manga, they keep reading every week, Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, Kenichi, and a lot more of mangas.

So Without the online manga readers, We`re FUCKED!.

Some people can say: Hey! relax you still have the scanlators, but remenber, first the censorship in the manga loli/Shota (as if that would stop all those rapists and pedophiles on the streets), second they are taking down the Online manga readers!.

What`s next? Taking down the scanlators,one by one, although this will take time, they will do.

Mangaupdates also be prepared because they will go after you, this page is a very important connection between the series and scanlators without this web the misinformation will reign.

and well sorry about the complain with the question. Everyboy has been upset with this big problem.

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» thevampirate on July 24th, 2010, 11:01am

you dont need online manga readers. download the manga and a program like CDisplay that can read .rar and .zip files without extracting. i know some people in Brazil (i know you're different countries) that do just that. oh and thanks to the responses i got before i bought a 2TB external HD and am moving all of my manga from my DVDs over. sadly i only have the manga i read if so if i wanted to start reading an older series that has been lost from the internet then i will be out of luck.

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» Conquestor on July 24th, 2010, 10:31am

Why the sad face? Many of us don't want to be in relationships :X

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» Daisuki-chan on July 24th, 2010, 4:11pm

Most people do, and so do I, even though it'll never happen... sad

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» kawaiiairbender on July 24th, 2010, 6:32pm

why not bb? sad

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» naikan on July 25th, 2010, 5:27am

Hmm maybe, as someone suggested, they really should convert MU to a singles dating site. With manga as a common interest. Then the coalition can't shut this site down because it's infringing on a different set of rights or something. biggrin

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» kawaiiairbender on July 24th, 2010, 6:34pm

i highly doubt that's the case for 76% people

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» Perfect1 on July 24th, 2010, 12:38pm

If only the price on manga was a little lower then I'd be happy.
I'd be even more happy to have the same for price that they have in Japan.
And I still have 200 manga pockets in my house.

Sure there are a few of us that don't have the luxury of getting ahold of manga at all or atleast for a reasonble price.

BUT
This is for 90% of the people on the net reading manga, although the sad part is that probably less 5% of those are going to read this post.
Most people are:
1. Lazy.
Too lazy to get off their chairs and leave their house to buy that manga.
2. They think that everything should be free.
Why should it? Without money being paid for the manga it wouldn't exist.

Oh and there is no such thing as an unlicensed manga. Every manga is licensed in Japan.

One last thing. I must admit that alot of the scanlators do alot better work than some publishers and yes it would be great if the japanese publishers went more for technology and could provide us with manga online, but for a price though.

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» pysali on July 24th, 2010, 12:53pm

I said no.

I have local bookstores, all of whom who are also willing to order manga if they don't have it in stock for me, which doesn't cost anything extra. A good library system, also willing to listen to requests to get in more manga since more manga equals more people checking out books which in turn equals larger budget to buy more books in general. The only thing I don't have is a really great selection of used bookstores for when my wallet can't keep up with my current reading list and I go looking for local deals.

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» Jandalman on July 24th, 2010, 4:12pm

I live in New Zealand, the only shop I know that sells manga is in the capital which is 5 hours drive away. There's probably one in Auckland but it's practically impossible to locate. There is this NZ manga online shop that I just found "www.animegarden.co.nz" but it only has a couple of the manga series I read. An with my current budget, $20+ a book would seriously screw me up. On the other hand I do love black lagoon...

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» 2Face21 on July 24th, 2010, 4:16pm

Well I help a comic store selling manga's at conventions. And there is also the motto "If we can order it you can buy it from us". The only thing is that all mangas are import from US to Europe.
Even the Euro is higher than the Dollar it still cost to get them here. I see allot of people really want to get a new serie but cannot due that they already got a long list. I can afford them, but I feel sorry for the rest.
The only plus point of reading online for me is so I can check the new series that are going to be release in the US and then give advise to the store owner what the story is about and which group of customers are interesting in buying the serie.

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» foreverfree123 on July 24th, 2010, 5:14pm

Stores like Borders and Barnes and Noble only carry mainstream stuff like One Piece , Bleach, Naruto. I don't like any of the mainstream stuff. And If I did order a series I liked. They eventually just got dropped. Good titles that I have actually been interested in have all been dropped. Whats the point of buying manga if the series is going to get dropped. Some titles I could mention include Rure, Junai Tokkou Taichou! , Apothecarius Argentum and a bunch of other titles that where dropped. All most all other titles I read ,have not been published in English. I would buy the manga if it where available in English. But its not and if they are they have a high percentage of being dropped. . I think publishers are hypocrites. They are fighting and demanding manga scanlations to be taken of the internet, but they cant even continue a series they pick up. I get excited when I stumble on a series I actually like, buy it, happily expecting another volume,only to find it it was drooped. Yeah published titles should be taken of the web. Since you could buy it in stores. But what about the rest? I think they should stay. Since where else can we read them? Unfinsed series have just left a sour taste in my mouth, and utter disappointment. And considering the publishing company lack of creditability in general , why should I buy a title when the series could just get dropped the next month.

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» Artimidorus on July 24th, 2010, 5:33pm

I agree. I have already have many thousands of dollars into my collection, and I am still waiting for more books to be released that I have already read, which will push it up a few thousand more. However!! I also have many that I can not get, because people like ADV got the license, and then dropped it.. and while they are still released in Japan, they can never be released here. Or, they are released and so heavily edited that even it is pretty obvious it is false (getting drunk off of hot sauce?)
So we factor in the high cost, the inability to ensure that we will ever be able to finish our collection, space for our collections (this is a bit of a more non-issue if you want to buy books), and the difficulty in finding slightly more non-mainstream stuff... and it is a pain to collect manga in some places. sad I really wish these groups wouldn't take licenses, monopolize them, and then stop distribution so nobody can finish it. sad

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» Name-Undecided on July 24th, 2010, 7:55pm

Isn't "It would take more money than I can afford" the same as "hard or impossible"?

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» Enternalfir3 on July 24th, 2010, 8:14pm

Not if you can't find any even if you were willing to pay

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» Name-Undecided on July 25th, 2010, 5:59pm

No, what I mean is, "I can't afford it" is one of the many things that fall under the "Yes" answer. It doesn't need its own option.

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» Axlish on July 25th, 2010, 4:32am

Manga is not difficult for me to access at all. However, finding good manga is another thing. I'm a relatively picky reader, and I'd rather not go to a store littered with Naruto and InuYasha manga, y'know? We also don't have enough yaoi out here, especially at the Barnes & Noble I go to.

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» otakubaybay on July 26th, 2010, 3:14am

I've been to several Barnes & Noble bookstores at different times, and I think the lack of yaoi is a common occurrence :/ My theory is that they avoid stocking yaoi outside of the company BLU. And even then, on my latest trip, all I remember seeing was Junjo Romantica, probably because it's a longer series. At least Borders doesn't do that >>

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» drunkguy on July 25th, 2010, 7:53am

If you are willing to sacrifice your gas, water, electric , and food bill you can pretty much buy most of the raw/chinese translated manga you want from Bookoff, Kinokuniya and Asahiya. The problem comes when you want translated works. Then the availability is limited to licensed crap. Really, internet is the way to go.

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» VawX on July 26th, 2010, 2:27am

manga in my country many but some (more than half) of the series is not published yet (and maybe never), only the most popular one is published
it seems that ecchi manga that's a bit "too much" will never get here no matter what...
the translator is good, but somehow i feel like to read the scanlation better than the one with my language, maybe because of the scanlator note and or because of my language is not rich enough to make the words translated perfectly...
and they neglected the suffix (-san, -chan, etc) when the last time i read it (maybe nowadays they put it in)
off course i don't have enough money to import manga...
and there are many other problems that i don't care to explain..

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» Kusano on July 26th, 2010, 6:59am

Heh, it's almost impossible. I already live in Brazil, where most people need to translate even from english to portuguese to read mangas, and I live in a very small city(25~30k people). I only know 3 people who read mangas/watch animes, and without internet, none of us would know about it.

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» bakaliner on July 27th, 2010, 12:00am

its not like its hard to find manga in my country, but for god sake the censorship here is like crazy. And not much title released in my country, and even when it released a lot of times the volume i want to read doesnt even come to my city x(.

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» mattai on July 27th, 2010, 12:37am

It would be simple enough to get hold of a few series that I'm following, but if I stopped using the internet, I'd be dropping 95% or more of the manga I'm reading, including most of my favorites.

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» Termia on July 31st, 2010, 4:37am

In my country there are enough shops that sell manga. Not only the main stream manga, but also some less popular ones. But at the shop I frequent, they try to get some manga I like every week, they just never get delivered.

I'm looking for about 1year for a volume, and they are requesting it every week, but it just won't deliver.

Anyways: I put in "it would take more money", cuz I'm a student and college is pretty expensive. If I got like 500 euro's extra a month, it would be very easy to buy the manga I love, but right now I just can't pay for them. I really hope manga will be on the web for a long time, as I found manga trough the web and would never have bought them if I didn't know it, as comics are usually for little children, and not teenagers to adults.

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