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New Poll - Unrealistic Manga
This week's poll from kitty1826x is similar to something from 2008, but oh well... What level of realism do you like in your series?

You can submit poll ideas here (and try to keep them manga/anime-related)
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903

Previous Poll Results:
Question: When was the last time you read a non-manga related book outside of school purely for pleasure?
Choices:
Right now! - votes: 3108 (29.2%)
A few days ago - votes: 2323 (21.8%)
A few weeks ago - votes: 1189 (11.2%)
A few months ago - votes: 1506 (14.1%)
Over a year ago - votes: 850 (8%)
So long ago that I don't remember - votes: 1670 (15.7%)
There were 10646 total votes.
The poll ended: November 1st 2014

I'm glad a lot of you are reading other stuff!
Posted by lambchopsil on 
November 1st 12:52pm
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» darkraiders on November 1st, 2014, 1:04pm

I prefer when manga aren't too much realistic.

I see enough realistic things in real life.

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» Here_And_Now on November 1st, 2014, 2:28pm

It depends on what kind of "unrealistic" we're talking about. I like fantasy and supernatural manga; but if I'm reading a slice of life and the protagonist suddenly sprouts wings and flies off into space to fight an alien overlord who's never been mentioned up til this point, then I'm not happy. A little bit of stretching logical boundaries within the confines of the genera is fine. I read as an escape from reality, so I don't require "normal" or "logical" in order to like what I'm reading. Throwing in something completely off the wall in the midst of an established manga/story line, though, is not okay.

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» Nekore on November 1st, 2014, 2:32pm

Indifferent in part as I like both, realistic and unrealistic, there's probably a limit to both but a good story can be anywhere.

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» Millennia_Curse on November 1st, 2014, 3:00pm

I love fantasy and supernatural elements, but i dislike when the characters themselves act unrealistically. I find that extremely annoying.

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» FormX on November 1st, 2014, 3:46pm

Depends on what genre and aspects.

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» toshirodragon on November 1st, 2014, 3:48pm

Define unrealistic...

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» Lorska on November 1st, 2014, 5:03pm

yeah this heavily depends on how you define it for yourself.

for me anything unrealistic is ok. and generally much appreciated, it is fiction after all. the 'over the top' stuff would be when the characters do completely unrealistic stuff i.e. their thought process is just not realistic (or doesn't make sense). yes, I look at you crappy generic shoujo heroines and crappy generic shounen heroes...
this is pretty much the only thing I cannot stomach...

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» KaoriNite on November 1st, 2014, 5:05pm

If we are talking about genres such as slice of life versus fantasy, I like both but prefer realistic manga.

But when it comes to story development and characters' behavior, I hate unrealistic manga. I don't like reading manga where I'm thinking in the back of my head "No one would react like that" or "There's no way anyone would make that decision." Unfortunately, this happens a lot in "realistic" genres such as romance.

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» bnad on November 1st, 2014, 5:43pm

Either its over the top or realistic, as long the writing is good, I'll read it. And guess what, art also not a priority for me. If the author write something profound like Moby-Dick level manga, even if the art is crap while using realistic/over the top scenes, I'm gonna buy it.

That's why I gave Monster, Slam Dunk, Berserk, Tower of God, Angel Densetsu, Azumanga Daioh, Ping Pong a very high rating, even though they are from different genre with distinct style of writing.

It doesn't really matter.

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» BlackOrion on November 1st, 2014, 5:48pm

Most people tend to be able to ignore what's unrealistic on a story, but not what's unlikely.
99% of manga is unrealistic, it's just that some have aspects that are easier to identify as realistic, even if that's not necessarily the case.

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» quark1020 on November 1st, 2014, 6:29pm

Indifferent

I have no strong feelings one way or the other.

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» nightazday on November 1st, 2014, 7:51pm

Well for "over the top" that phrase can mean a good thing or a bad thing. I believe the whole point of fiction is to be independent of reality, and I love it when manga gets really crazy to the point of being creative.

Not so much when the manga is doing things that is even stupid in their own setting.

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» imercenary on November 1st, 2014, 9:30pm

What a wonky poll.

Due to its poor phrasing and even worse choices, I choose Indifferent.

If it makes sense in context of the story, the more unrealistic, the better. If it doesn't make sense in context, such garbage.

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» kint on November 1st, 2014, 10:39pm

i find with it as long it follow it own logic, so the manga have to set up it own logic if a fanasty type or sci fi. if i a sport manga better be realistic.

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» strixflash on November 1st, 2014, 10:40pm

I hate the unrealistic kindness & forgivness shown by shonen characters. Otherwise unrealistic is fine but the characters personalty & behaviour should be realistic.

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» RoxFlowz on November 1st, 2014, 11:24pm

Either realistic or unrealistic are fine, as long as it's "realistic" within its own world meaning no plot holes etc.. I also wouldn't say I hate "unrealistic" behaviour of any of the characters, but that's only as long as they're not acting out of character.

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» mysstris on November 2nd, 2014, 10:31am

This really depends. If it's supposed to be fantasy based then it doesn't matter. If it's set in a modern time and there is no fantasy aspect with no weird plot twist eg basic girl meets boy school plot, then yeah, a slice of life would be more of a fun read after a certain amount of time. But it really does depend on the plot (people get touchy with different circumstances)

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» Hanae on November 2nd, 2014, 11:29am

I agree that the question and the answers in this poll are kind of vague. Is realistic = not fantasy? Is Prince of Tennis realistic? On the one hand there is no magic or fantasy elements, but on the other hand some things that happen (e.g. a character playing while blind and such) wouldn't happen in real life.

I answered "as long as it's not over the top" because I generally prefer manga that has something other than plain old "slice of life", but in manga "over the top" often means "chaotic and completely crazy", which I don't like either

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» kitty1826x on November 2nd, 2014, 12:37pm

Yay my suggestion was picked .... and good thing lambchopsil fixed my typos in the options.
But I'm not sure why some think the options are confusing? oddly phrased?
Seems pretty understandable to me ....
Indifferent for those that just care about how well the story is and don't have a preference on how realistic it is.
Dislike where they want it to be mostly realistic, so like your manga school life type stories. (As most aren't completely realistic but give the impression as if they try to be realistic).
Like for the those that have an element of unrealisticness. For example, being able to sense ghosts, or a bit of magic or something.
Love it, for those that like all the craziness that would never happen in the real world. What comes to mind here would be something like Excel saga or anything else where the laws of physics don't apply.
Hate it, for those that would rather stick to slice of life, or historical or something.
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I picked "Like it, as long as it's not too over the top" . I rarely like mangas where someone gets punched and flies off into space, but I do enjoy the types of stories that have something made up but still tries to stay realistic, like zombie mangas.

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» kanosa on November 2nd, 2014, 1:34pm

I think the confusion everyone is having is whether the poll is fantasy vs non-fantasy or unrealistic behavior/character development vs realistic behavior/character development.

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» animalia on November 2nd, 2014, 1:43pm

Quote from kanosa
I think the confusion everyone is having is whether the poll is fantasy vs non-fantasy or unrealistic behavior/character development vs realistic behavior/character development.
Agreed I like over the top craziness like JoJo's Bizarre Adventure and other stuff like it all I ask is that BOTH character depiction is realistic, and the crazy over the top shit is consistent with how it works. For example stands abilities may get increasingly over the top, but the basics, such as hurt the stand hurt the user. Never change.

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» auriga on November 2nd, 2014, 6:06pm

In that case this poll could simply have been "How much fantasy do you like in your manga?"

As others have said, "realism" is a very broad term. It can refer to the presence of fantasy/supernatural elements - like what you're referring to - or it can refer to how characters or events progress and develop.

An example I can think that violates the latter definition of realism is Tetsuwan Girl. It's a historical story that portrays women's baseball in post WWII Japan, but the plot devices used - like kidnapping, blackmail, torture, and extreme high-stakes nation-changing gambling that forces the US military to intervene - are so over-the-top that the story doesn't feel realistic and natural anymore.

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» kitty1826x on November 2nd, 2014, 6:20pm

I see now why there's some confusion, but since it is such a broad term. People could just answer the question in how they interrupted it ...

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» frodfy on November 5th, 2014, 9:00pm

That's only possible for people who only think about it one way or have the same answer for all the possible questions.

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» bnad on November 2nd, 2014, 6:32pm

Quote from auriga
An example I can think that violates the latter definition of realism is Tetsuwan Girl. It's a historical story that portrays women's baseball in post WWII Japan, but the plot devices used - like kidnapping, blackmail, torture, and extreme high-stakes nation-changing gambling that forces the US military to intervene - are so over-the-top that the story doesn't feel realistic and natural anymore. .


That was just bad writing, since it break one of rules of story crafting. Plausible within the context of the story.

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» auriga on November 2nd, 2014, 8:12pm

You're right; it is bad writing... But it is still unrealistic, and therefore can be interpreted to fall within the broad scope of the poll.

PS: What rule is this? I'm curious.

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» bnad on November 3rd, 2014, 5:01am

Quote from auriga
You're right; it is bad writing... But it is still unrealistic, and therefore can be interpreted to fall within the broad scope of the poll.

PS: What rule is this? I'm curious.


They usually teach that at writing masterclass. Both literature and screenwriting.

And I really think even a mangaka could benefit from the class. Ignoring the outlier, like Naoki Urasawa and the gang. The natural born writers.

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» Jooles on November 3rd, 2014, 1:02pm

Don't care for the phrasing of the question at all since it's only about perception and nothing else - I sincerely hope whoever made this wasn't planning on using it for a paper or whatever (as has been the case in the past) since any data derived from it would be useless.

On the topic of unrealistic manga, though.

I'd say 99% of all romance developed in manga has even less to do with how it works in real life than RomCom-movies, and that says a whooooole lot.

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» MinatoAce on November 3rd, 2014, 4:23pm

Though I answered, " Like it, as long as it's not too over the top "...

But, I'm actually totally Up for Crazy mangas with Crazy and CooL and BadAss protagonist...^^

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» reanseih on November 3rd, 2014, 5:36pm

What kind of unrealistic? I like it when the world or settings are "unrealistic" as in fantasy, or original. But absolutely hate it when it comes to characters. Unrealistic characters, as in shounen shoujo manga protagonists...

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» dasnik on November 3rd, 2014, 7:57pm

I live what I read, for me a book is like a movie and one with much more detail. I find drama boring because it a everyday thing around us if I want to read something realistic I read the news. that why went i'm alone with my book I live the life of the protagonist, I don't care about the life of another human like me I want to live something new, something never seen, something filled with emotion so strong and strange. Went I read like that at night I make the most vivid dream ever of a story of my own that integrate part of the book. That what I live for .

Crazy story give Crazy idea that give Crazy good dream I Crazy addictive.

Yup i'm addicted to reading fantasy, one day without any I don't want to think about it.

The only unrealistic thing I don't like in manga are HUMONGUS BOOB ....... that just pervertedly sad sad

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» mysstris on November 7th, 2014, 1:05am

I don't dream of the stories I read so I imagine it'd be fun and quite the adventure (for all I know I might do so but just can't remember upon awakening). What you say makes a lot of sense. I can't immerse myself enough in a story to "become" the protagonist as much as I'd love it. I guess it takes a certain practice with one's imagination which is easier when starting in youth. I'm not much of a day dreamer either....

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