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New Poll - Translating Money
This week's poll about converting money (into gold!) was suggested by our member 8-3.
You can submit poll ideas here (and try to keep them manga/anime-related)
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903
Previous Poll Results:
Question: Female main character hair length preference
Choices:
Bald - votes: 275 (3.2%)
Ear - votes: 305 (3.5%)
Chin - votes: 347 (4%)
Neck - votes: 550 (6.3%)
Collarbone - votes: 328 (3.8%)
Shoulder - votes: 638 (7.4%)
Armpit - votes: 240 (2.8%)
Bra strap - votes: 653 (7.5%)
Mid-back - votes: 1197 (13.8%)
Waist - votes: 764 (8.8%)
Hip - votes: 318 (3.7%)
Tailbone - votes: 209 (2.4%)
Classic - votes: 115 (1.3%)
Mid-thigh - votes: 166 (1.9%)
Knee - votes: 83 (1%)
Calf - votes: 26 (0.3%)
Ankle - votes: 69 (0.8%)
Floor - votes: 59 (0.7%)
Longer than floor (what a drag) - votes: 191 (2.2%)
No preference - votes: 2138 (24.7%)
There were 8671 total votes.
The poll ended: December 3rd 2016
I'm actually surprised that so many people voted. I expected this to be an unpopular one.
You can submit poll ideas here (and try to keep them manga/anime-related)
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903
Previous Poll Results:
Question: Female main character hair length preference
Choices:
Bald - votes: 275 (3.2%)
Ear - votes: 305 (3.5%)
Chin - votes: 347 (4%)
Neck - votes: 550 (6.3%)
Collarbone - votes: 328 (3.8%)
Shoulder - votes: 638 (7.4%)
Armpit - votes: 240 (2.8%)
Bra strap - votes: 653 (7.5%)
Mid-back - votes: 1197 (13.8%)
Waist - votes: 764 (8.8%)
Hip - votes: 318 (3.7%)
Tailbone - votes: 209 (2.4%)
Classic - votes: 115 (1.3%)
Mid-thigh - votes: 166 (1.9%)
Knee - votes: 83 (1%)
Calf - votes: 26 (0.3%)
Ankle - votes: 69 (0.8%)
Floor - votes: 59 (0.7%)
Longer than floor (what a drag) - votes: 191 (2.2%)
No preference - votes: 2138 (24.7%)
There were 8671 total votes.
The poll ended: December 3rd 2016
I'm actually surprised that so many people voted. I expected this to be an unpopular one.
Comments (limited to first 100 replies)
» Senrosj on December 3rd, 2016, 1:24am
Leave it in original form. If someone is curious enough to want to know how much that is in their own currency, they can just google it and it a few seconds they will know. I mean, in fantasy stories people pay with gold coins and you just simply take that for what it is. At least I haven't thought how much a gold coin would be worth in usd, euros, etc. So if they are curious, they can look for it themselves, though it's a really nice touch for translators to put a note saying those things.
» KaoriNite on December 3rd, 2016, 5:11am
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Leave it in original form. If someone is curious enough to want to know how much that is in their own currency, they can just google it and it a few seconds they will know.
Totally agree. And besides, after reading manga for a while you come across currency enough to remember roughly what it would be in your local currency. Or at least it's easy for me because I can just use the approximation of 100yen = $1.
What I don't like is when they change the amount to the local currency using the exact exchange rate of the day. Exchange rates change constantly, so there's no need to put in the extra effort to include exact amounts when it'll just change later.
» ForeignerChan on December 3rd, 2016, 8:57am
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And besides, after reading manga for a while you come across currency enough to remember roughly what it would be in your local currency.
After reading "Liar Game", it's impossible for me not to know since they talk about money in every chapter ^^
» Suxinn on December 3rd, 2016, 1:37am
For scanlators, simply leaving it in its original form is fine with me. Conversion rates change all the time anyway, so if there is a translation note, I prefer an approximation rather than an actual conversion. (Ex: 100 JPY ≈ 1 USD)
For official translations, of course, I expect a translation note with whatever country's currency they're publishing in (USD for American publishers, NT for Taiwan publishers, etc.). Again, I prefer approximations over exact figures.
For official translations, of course, I expect a translation note with whatever country's currency they're publishing in (USD for American publishers, NT for Taiwan publishers, etc.). Again, I prefer approximations over exact figures.
» MinatoAce on December 3rd, 2016, 2:22am
Leave in original form and add translation note for conversion to USD, etc.
Original from is required as exchange rate will differ as time passes. Well original value will also change depending on when you're reading, I mean Egg prices wouldn't be same after 5+ years where author lives. But, anyone will ignore that for a good read and most of the good authors states which year/time it's based on. And Fantasy/Medieval can can see some tranquillity in that regard.
Original from is required as exchange rate will differ as time passes. Well original value will also change depending on when you're reading, I mean Egg prices wouldn't be same after 5+ years where author lives. But, anyone will ignore that for a good read and most of the good authors states which year/time it's based on. And Fantasy/Medieval can can see some tranquillity in that regard.
» residentgrigo on December 3rd, 2016, 6:17am
Leave in original form. There is nothing wrong to have a footnote on the $ amount but that is indeed a 5 sec. google search away.
» cmertb on December 3rd, 2016, 10:25am
No, you do not let translators convert stuff. Many of them are burdened with some kind of a liberal arts degree that prevents them from doing such complicated operations. I remember I was watching some drama where in the subtitles they decided to convert kilometers to miles for whatever reason. The numbers seemed off, so I re-checked with a calculator, and what do you know? They were converting to nautical miles (~1.9 km) rather than normal ones (~1.6 km). Even if you want the conversion in t/n, you are still asking for potential errors to be introduced.
If you really want to know what the amount is in your currency, go and google it yourself.
If you really want to know what the amount is in your currency, go and google it yourself.
» Moirae on December 3rd, 2016, 7:43pm
Lol. I know what you're talking about. I'm very thankful for the scanlators work and bringing us a series, but, for some reason, a lot of times when there is a huge debt, the number of zeroes or currency seems to change from chapter to chapter. i.e. 1 billion yen to 100 million yen OR 10 million yen to 10 million usd
» shea07 on December 3rd, 2016, 10:46am
Leave in the original form. With the way the economy fluctuates and with inflation even if it's changed to dollars you still may not have a good idea of how much money it's worth, or you may even incorrectly assume how much it is. Most of the times if it's important you can get a good idea of what's high or low based on other prices in the story. They do that a lot in fantasy stories too, and it's never a problem. If someone is really interested they can look it up themselves- now a days it really doesn't take long at all.
» amy_levi on December 3rd, 2016, 12:23pm
Second or fourth choice. So readers know roughly what the amount is without having to look it up. Even though conversion rates change, it's usually not so much that after a year or so after a manga's scanlation they're completely different.
That's what official manga translators do, too. It can always be seen in officially published manga.
That's what official manga translators do, too. It can always be seen in officially published manga.
» silvarion on December 3rd, 2016, 12:49pm
Leave in original form
I'm not an American. and I'm sure some scanlator are not Americans either. so, conversion to USD is just useless for me. I just grasp the values these Yen has in Japan.
I'm not an American. and I'm sure some scanlator are not Americans either. so, conversion to USD is just useless for me. I just grasp the values these Yen has in Japan.
» GGpX on December 3rd, 2016, 1:19pm
You have to leave it in the original form.
If a story is taking place in Japan, the currency there is Yen. If the story is taking place in England, the currency there are Pounds.
And so on & so forth.
If a story is taking place in Japan, the currency there is Yen. If the story is taking place in England, the currency there are Pounds.
And so on & so forth.
» mikako17 on December 3rd, 2016, 3:24pm
Currency is a signifier of setting so definitely leave it in original form. Personally I like translation notes for USD though I can definitely convert from yen to dollar since like others have said 100 yen ~ 1 dollar. If it's some from of bartering or gold coins or whatever, I don't really care to know how much something is worth unless its a manga that relies heavily on economics, eg Spice and Wolf. Even then, I only really need to know something's worth relative to something else in the story.
» SinsI on December 3rd, 2016, 6:05pm
Leaving it as is is not really an option - readers should be able to relate to the amount, as a "billion" is not that much if it is in Korean Won, while even a hundred bitcoins is already a lot!
But if you are translating it, you have to take into account the setting- i.e. translators of Moonlight Sculptor used the current US/Won conversion rate, which was a big mistake: since it is set in the future, and Korea suffered x10 price inflation, their conversion was vastly incorrect.
As such, it is best to change the currency into some kind of "Big Mac index" - that way the translation stays relevant regardless of real life currency fluctuations.
But if you are translating it, you have to take into account the setting- i.e. translators of Moonlight Sculptor used the current US/Won conversion rate, which was a big mistake: since it is set in the future, and Korea suffered x10 price inflation, their conversion was vastly incorrect.
As such, it is best to change the currency into some kind of "Big Mac index" - that way the translation stays relevant regardless of real life currency fluctuations.
» mysstris on December 3rd, 2016, 8:09pm
Haven't run into this issue of leaving in original format (pref with T/N conversion but can do w/o) but been watching some dramas that arbitrarily uses USD (conversion isn't even accurate) and luckily numbers in hangeul sound a bit like chinese so I can tell. Still annoys me though.
» licorice on December 4th, 2016, 3:23pm
Currency rates change all the time so it's best to leave it in its original form.
» chineserider on December 4th, 2016, 3:27pm
This, and (1) people should not be too lazy to use Google, (2) purchasing power of goods would likely have changed if the currency mention in the manga does not take place in the current year, and we would not expect translator to dig up exchange rates from say, a decade ago
» vigorousjammer on December 4th, 2016, 5:35pm
I would say in most cases, leave it as-is, and don't bother leaving a note, as that would slow down the pace during reading.
There are exceptions, though... for instance, one time I saw a manga which featured American soldiers... and they were talking about some new sneakers and how much they cost... and they said they cost a specific amount of yen. In this case, I'd give it a rough conversion to USD, just to make sense in terms of the the context with the characters, and make the line still flow naturally. Nobody cares if the conversion is entirely accurate, but I would definitely find it odd if american soldiers were conversing with each other about how much something costs in yen. Unless, of course, they were stationed in Japan or something.
Just be logical about it.
There are exceptions, though... for instance, one time I saw a manga which featured American soldiers... and they were talking about some new sneakers and how much they cost... and they said they cost a specific amount of yen. In this case, I'd give it a rough conversion to USD, just to make sense in terms of the the context with the characters, and make the line still flow naturally. Nobody cares if the conversion is entirely accurate, but I would definitely find it odd if american soldiers were conversing with each other about how much something costs in yen. Unless, of course, they were stationed in Japan or something.
Just be logical about it.
» VawX on December 9th, 2016, 5:25am
Leave it in original form and add the conversion to Norwegian Krone lol mmm...
That meme is kinda dead now but it's really good when it last, but for general scanlation, I prefer to see it in original with conversion to USD, not because I'm from US but that's just the most universal currency we got right now mmm...
That meme is kinda dead now but it's really good when it last, but for general scanlation, I prefer to see it in original with conversion to USD, not because I'm from US but that's just the most universal currency we got right now mmm...
