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Question: What's the top reason preventing you from acquiring (more) anime/manga related merchandise?
Choices:
Not enough money - votes: 3486 (51%)
Not enough space - votes: 496 (7.2%)
Difficult to find/buy what I want - votes: 1207 (17.6%)
Worried about what people might think of me - votes: 366 (5.3%)
Not a safe place (children, pets, etc) - votes: 71 (1%)
Already have everything I want - votes: 84 (1.2%)
Not interested in the first place - votes: 1132 (16.5%)
There were 6842 total votes.
The poll ended: June 10th 2017
Now I'm curious about a combination of this poll and your age
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» darkraiders on June 10th, 2017, 12:32am
I don't mind if the story is bad at the beginning if it get better as it go, but i really hate when story don't end well, so many great stories had bad ending and while i enjoyed reading the story, because of the bad ending i felt like i had wasted all my times.
» VawX on June 10th, 2017, 12:39am
» dreamaway on June 10th, 2017, 1:07am
» Anima on June 10th, 2017, 1:09am
» im_uni on June 10th, 2017, 9:12am
It's not about manga, but have you read The Headless Horseman? I've started it like 10 times, but never could get through the beginning, until I dropped it entirely and found the novel to be a great read.
» felleccha on June 16th, 2017, 6:48am
» calstine on June 10th, 2017, 1:25am
I went for "bad beginning, okay middle and great ending." Though any combination with a "great" or "okay" ending is acceptable, really. What drives me absolutely up the wall, and which is unfortunately common in not just manga/anime but most works of fiction (especially long-running ones) is "great beginning, okay middle, bad ending."
I guess this stems from the feeling of having wasted all that time, effort, and maybe even money on something with little to no pay-off. But when a book/show steadily improves, your satisfaction keeps rising and at the end you're left with a really good feeling. Also, I have enough patience to push through a mediocre start as long as I can see glimpses of potential, and even provided you dropped something because the beginning didn't impress you, you can read comments, etc., find out whether the story improved and come back to it with the assurance that your perseverance will pay off. But once you start something great, you want to keep going, hoping for at least an all right ending...which will more likely than not never happen. A prime example of this is the summer 2017 anime Seikaisuru Kado: it started out wonderfully, became a bit cliche towards the middle, and has currently (at the 9/12 point) hit an all-time low, though the majority of fans seem to be digging the sudden turn into "hot magical girl vs creepy alien" territory that the plot took.
I wonder about the "bad middle," options, though. I don't think I've even remotely enjoyed anything that doesn't have at least an "okay" middle part. In my experience if the middle is bad, the conclusion's bad as well: there's usually no coming back from such a drop in storytelling quality.
» tactics on June 10th, 2017, 1:59am
It's so disappointing to read a manga with a great beginning for it to slowly fall from grace. I decided on a bad beginning because usually these days I don't read stories that have freshly started, so if I know it gets better as the story goes on, I'm willing to push through the bad in order to get to the good.
Series having great endings is very rare but they usually make the end of the series pretty satisfying when they do pop up.
» CuthienSilmeriel on June 10th, 2017, 3:26am
With the current poll, I can forgive a poor beginning. I hate a bad ending, especially if it started so well. I chose bad beginning, okay middle, great ending since I prefer things to get better as I go along, but I could deal with an okay beginning and bad middle if the ending was great enough.
» residentgrigo on June 10th, 2017, 4:00am
How closed off stories tend to work but ongoing manga don´t usually apply, for obvious reasons:
The most up-voted option can´t work, as one could never connect to the characters or story if the journey to the resolution wasn´t good at some point. The reader would just accuse the writer of doing a twist for the sake of it, or not "earning" the ending, or...
It´s also highly unlikely most would plow though at least 2/3 of ALL content if they didn´t like what they read. Not that a truly bad beginning would help. Most wouldn´t even reach the jouncy middle but starting good and just falling apart as you go on is about the worst writing sin you can commit. Setting up a functioning 1st act, aka the premise of the overall story, ain´t that hard after all. So Okay beginning, great middle, bad ending would work too.
» felleccha on June 16th, 2017, 6:39am
A lot of my favorite manga began with okay or bad beginning, but when they have a great second act, it's fine even if the ending is not that good or they got axed.
I can't explain it well but t's like what matters the most is the journey, you know? And that journey is the part when it took most time, which is the middle part.
» kurotaito on June 10th, 2017, 4:02am
» residentgrigo on June 10th, 2017, 4:10am
Star Wars IV famously follows it 1 to 1. His book The Hero with a Thousand Faces is about the best book on effective storytelling that exists.
» MinatoAce on June 10th, 2017, 5:09am
I'll be going with Okay beginning, bad middle, great ending.
Okay Beginning, so that I don't quit reading just after few chapters or volumes; or simply don't put the series on hold.
Bad middle, critics will talk Batshit about it here, some will quit or put it on hold. And most will have hope for it.
Great ending, this is where it makes a awesome comeback, critics talk positively about it, fans start dancing in euphoria, ratings starts overflowing. All's Well That Ends Well.
» SinsI on June 10th, 2017, 6:23am
Allows me to enjoy the good parts and quickly drop it afterwards.
» silvarion on June 10th, 2017, 6:25am
if I have to read something with "bad" part no matter what, then I choose bad beginning. growing into okay middle, and ended great. so that I wouldn't have big expectation of the next part.
» MangaGhost on June 10th, 2017, 7:38am
» ebisu on June 10th, 2017, 8:11am
You can do so many great things when you have characters, lore, world all developed.
» kellystarz on June 10th, 2017, 8:52am
If I have to choose any to be bad, it's definitely the beginning. Read plenty of manga with bad beginnings that were great afterwards. Now, I would normally read a few more chapters before deciding to drop it, if not, I'll often pick up back on manga that I've dropped to try it again.
Great middle as it's normally my main motivation to continue with the story, especially with the long series. Okay ending... cause I'm used to manga with pretty normal ending or even questionable "is that even a proper ending?"
» im_uni on June 10th, 2017, 9:24am
I'm 27, I don't even earn enough to rent my own place (which is not that strange here), and delivery cost is atrocious. Really. Sometimes it's even pricier than the thing that I want to buy. Not to mention it's risky, because the mail services here are not that great too.
So when I want to buy something, I have to think that I'm giving my money for something that will just stand on my shelf, and I will pay big money for delivery. And I have to remember that there's a chance that it won't even get to me...
In the end I always prefer to keep the money for my education. Because that's the thing that can give me a chance to have more money later.
The only things I DO buy are: games (Steam, almost always with ~90% discount, no delivery , 100% chance), and, very rarely, something from Chinese sites (cheap), and only if it's not sold here and I really want it and know what I'm going to use it for.
» KaoriNite on June 11th, 2017, 5:05am
» Draconic on June 11th, 2017, 8:54am
For the rest, it depends on how bad it is. It needs only one really bad chapter for me to never look at it again.
For exapmle Bleach. The beginning was good. The majority of it was kinda okay. I read it, because I wanted to know the rest. Then came the fight between Ichigo and Aizen. Never again did I read a single page of Bleach.
» SSJR2 on June 11th, 2017, 12:31pm
Great part: I rather have this the most in the middle cause the "middle" is usually the largest part that has the most important content thats developing in the main core of story. Im seeing this as the beginning being one arc to start the series then the middle is the several in between arcs (for a long story) or the core arc (for a short one) then the end is the last arc (for a long one) or just the how it ended (for a short one). so of course i want the biggest or most important part to be great.
Bad Part: I feel like the "bad part" should only be at the beginning cause thats the only portion of a story i could except being a little bad cause its just starting and i usually give the beginning of manga a few chapters or so to get good. It would suck if the Middle or core of the story was bad, cause thats usually the largest part like i said. Plus having the end be bad would ruin the whole series for me cause i wouldn't want to reread it knowing it was ruined at the end. I know a lot of series that started off not so good but developed pretty great later. Trust me a bad ending does ruin a series for you. i have a few examples of series that i liked but a horrible ending or last arc left a really bad taste in my mouth for them. And i cant think of them the same anymore. Its easy to override a bad beginning with the rest being better but a bad ending can override the whole series for you.
Plus people take the "bad" word to the extreme. It could also be just "not as good" not "terrible" like people are saying. What one considers bad can vary.
Okay Part: Its nice to have a great ending of course but most just end in an okay way anyway so i can accept that. Most endings dont go exactly as you would hope but to me okay means it at least did what it was suppose to do and at least satisfied me..
So overall i still want the middle to be great versus all the others.Also no one whats any part to be bad of course but if you have no choice but to pick out of the three then the beginning is definitely the way to go and the one that can be ignored the most if its bad.
» Akatsubaki on June 11th, 2017, 2:59pm
The enjoyment comes from immersing ourselves while the story progress.
I'd likely forget or drop the still ongoing series if the middle part is too boring.
» ImmLff on June 11th, 2017, 3:20pm
Objectively, if you enjoyed most of the series, then regardless of the ending your evaluation should still be positive. To put it another way, that positive experience you already had is still there, even if conclusion was not to your liking.
As for me, if the series has bad beginning, then I probably won't read it at all, unless someone whose opinion I value recommends it. If it has bad middle, then it's very likely to be dropped sometime during that part of the story. If the ending is bad, it will diminish my enjoyment and opinion, but it's not something critical. And the part between beginning and ending is usually the longest one, so naturally I would want it to be great. Which leads me to this: okay-great-bad.
» Nervengift on June 11th, 2017, 3:53pm
» rhin33 on June 12th, 2017, 12:51am
» moniker on June 13th, 2017, 7:03am
Certainly my first choice was Bad beginning, okay middle, great ending but then again to be honest; Im the type of person who judge what I read/watch from first impression so I'd prefer to be wowed with a great start. Full of potential and whatnot to expect. Im okay with an Okay Ending even tho its not that great. I never seen a great ending anyway. Its almost always mediocre closure but Im not complaining.
» LazyCat3 on June 13th, 2017, 9:33am
this is the most reasonable choice, because if the beginning is bad i won't continue reading, if the middle is bad i give up, and the ending is usually very short/fast so it doesn't bother me that much if it's bad.
» itsugo09 on June 13th, 2017, 12:50pm
» mikako17 on June 13th, 2017, 3:27pm
» vigorousjammer on June 13th, 2017, 5:04pm
That way there's a nice ramp-up... and once I get past the bad stuff, there's no more of it that I have to worry about.
Then I'll watch a bunch of okay stuff until the very end, which would end up being great, and the majority of my time will have been well spent.
» hiei_luke on June 14th, 2017, 9:57am
Never.
The nearest "great" endings are only considered as good only.
So, I chose the most probable answer - okay ending.
"Bad beginning, great middle (this always happens in my favourite manga(s)) but okay ending".
» morphin007 on June 15th, 2017, 1:22pm
Middle being the longest part, i'll definetly drop the manga.
Bad ending will always leave a bad aftertaste when you'll remember it.
So obviously bad beginning. It'll be hard to start the manga but if you have an okay middle you'll saw some improvement and keep hooked.
And the a great ending will left you happy and you'll remember this manga as a fulfilling story.
» punchmanga on June 15th, 2017, 4:20pm
» Sarner on June 15th, 2017, 10:36pm
Therefore stories with bad start will just die without chances to make amends. I'd say it's better to have at least good at start and bad in the middle.
» BlackFrame on June 16th, 2017, 4:05pm
Great start with a lot of potential, then starting to shit around vol15 I think
I completely stop reading it.
There is also a lot of good one that got axed...
Mx0 etc
sigh...
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