Not worthless.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsubasa:_RESERVoir_CHRoNiCLE

Take a gander there. You'll see all of the crossovers that have been done. However, just because a character is a certain way in one world doesn't mean that character will be the same in another. ^_^

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oh me too, i suspected that too...
--can't seem to remember why though....

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Oh my God!!!! It's a side story!!! How many times do I have to repeat it!

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Ares6 -- xxxHOLiC isn't just some side story to Tsubasa. The two are separate stories that are linked via Yuuko-san. Until the stuff in volume 11 (maybe some in volume 10), Tsubasa happenings had little impact on xxxHOLiC, while xxxHOLiC events did at times impact Tsubasa. CLAMP appears to be pulling the titles together a bit more with the mention of the villain from Tsubasa in xxxHOLiC.

Based in part on this thread, I decided to cheat and go ahead and read ahead of the Del Rey release. Without spoiling anything, I can report that in chapter 124, Watanuki holds the replica of Sakura-chan's wand and notes that there is a Syaoran-kun and Sakura-chan in this world and that he'd like to meet them someday. ^_^

As to my earlier remarks about Tsubasa not having any major impact on xxxHOLiC, that won't always be the case. I won't spoil anything, but some of the Tsubasa characters have payments which come into play in xxxHOLiC and indeed, a character from there makes a payment for a character in xxxHOLiC. Not having read the corresponding Tsubasa stories, I don't have all the details. But is seems like major stuff happens over there and indeed the villain from there will finally get mention in xxxHOLiC (which we'll see in the U.S. before the year's out).

I can see why Del Rey slowed down the xxxHOLiC release so much after one of the CLAMP members got hurt. They needed to sync up the two titles so that if you are collecting both, you know what happens more easily.

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... so astronerdboy, you don't think xxxholic is a side story of tsubasa?

i've read both xxxholic and tsubasa up to date with the scanlationss and although i agree that xxxholic has more influence on tsubasa than the tsubasa does on xxxholic, there is a definite link between the two series (besides as the story develops further tsubasa seems to have more of an impact on xxxholic)

but anyways! ... since one is the side story of the other, can't both just be side stories of each other? (or is that faulty reasoning?)



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Or how about neither are side stories? Tsubasa is more of an epic in nature, while xxxHolic is currently more like a connection of shorts strung together. They're still both their own story, though. They just have these little intersections where they briefly meet before diverging again.

The argument against calling either a side story of the other:
Typically when something is a side story, it is a sub-story. A lesser story, either explaining something that only gets the briefest mention in the main series, or entirely independent of the main storyline, but containing one or more characters from the original story. But still, essentially, a side story is a smaller story.

Other options?
Spin-off: a longer story that originates from a character, time/place, or idea of the original story. I don't think this really applies to CCS TRC and xxxHolic.

Parallel: two stories happening at the same time. Parallel stories generally touch each other, sometimes even affecting each other. This isn't mathematically parallel, but it's easier to remember than concurrent.

I suppose you could just call them cross-over series. Tsubasa and xxxHolic, I mean. As the main story of each series develops they cross-over more and more often.
CCS is probably best described as merely related. Sure the characters all show up again variously in Tsubasa, but (as mentioned before) they are not the same.
I recall why you'd think the CCS Sakura and Syaoran could be from the world of xxxHolic; Yuuko says something in xxxHolic that could be interpreted that way. At present, I choose to interpret it that way. Maybe CLAMP will clear that up one day. Probably not.

I've always wondered if Yuuko is the only Yuuko. She's something like an xis of realities, no? Space/time witch. Makes sense if the one in both ongoing series is the Only Yuuko. At least, I don't think I've seen her in any of the other worlds the Tsubasa folks visit. Sorry, kind of a random thought.

Nice thoughts Somniel! I like the idea of calling them Concurrent to each other.
Parralel isn't bad either but I like concurrent the best.
If we could all agree on one of the two, I'm sure Manick will think of it as a nice addition to the choices in the related series field!

so concurrent was the correct word afterall, i suppose i should be thankful that my english isn't as bad as i thought it was ^^;

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since the thought of CCSs and xxxHOLiCs univers being the same came up varius times:
it cant be, since in volume 1, chapter 5, page 3 (or 111 of the volume) the brother and the "snowrabbit" are working part-time in a shop near to Yuuko's home... and i kinda doubt them to be the same...
thought i really hate the fact that the "snowrabbit" is in other story's than CCS, since he was a unique Being, created by a >>good<< version of that 'almighty' sorcerer... (although he's said to be a wicked person in xxxHOLiC o.o *confused*)

i'm sorry for my terrible english... too tired to think straight ;)

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Christ on toast... I really wish CLAMP would quit reusing characters every-freaking-where if they're going to be different incarnations anyway. Just make up some new ones! I swear, it reeks of a marketing ploy.

meh..i don't mind. It's quite interesting actually, and no one else seems to be doing it

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If you havent noticed, there are alot of characters from other works of clamp in Tsubasa, like Chii from Chobits and Hikaru from Angelic Layer, not only CCS. So I don't get why there are talks about only CCS >.> Anyways, either clamp is just reusing the characters, or as others said, its the idea of parallel world.

I don't get how someone can get the idea of xxxHolic being a 'side story' to Tsubasa. If your talking about intertwining storyline, thats fine but its definately not a 'side story.' xxxHolic is a series by itself with almost completely different style and story than Tsubasa. About 99% of xxxHolic has no relation to Tsubasa at all. But all this this can be progression toward the same ending.

Well you see, this thread is quite old... It was started just after the "related series" feature was added by Manick. And we kinda of all agreed that xxxHolic isn't just a side story to TRC. It's just that we didn't find a better wording for the relationship and then the thread died... and we all forgot this issue...
If you have a better type of relationship that qualify it, you should suggest it. Manick already said in this thread that he might add it as a new type of relationship.
From what I re-read of this old thread, it seems we kind agreed to some extent that "Concurrent story lines" could be the relationship we are looking for between TRC and xxxHolic.
For the other clamp works, we still didn't discuss it much. (But that was the point of this thread, if you read the title, you'd know what it was supposed to discuss)

Near the beggining of xxxHolic (hell if I know what chapter), the two little assistants of Yuuko start singing "This city has no people" or something along those lines anyways. Yeah that's from the book in Chobits.






D= Crossovers are unbelievably fun . It's all like HEY I KNOW THAT CHARACTER <3

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