oh god when i looked yesterday yaoi was losing but glad today it is in the 1st place again
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Madame Red
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Quote from Crenshinibon
That's entirely dependent upon whether or not you judge hentai as a male-oriented category.
Female:
Yaoi- 19.9
Shounen ai- 3.4
Shoujo- 18.9
Josei- 4.7
Shotacon (presumably, anyway)- 0.9
Total: 47.8
Male total is conversely 52.2% subtracting hentai's 10.5, giving 41.7%
Now, I would say that from a general standpoint, it's probable that hentai attracts at least a 66% male audience, but because it isn't actually targeted at a specific gender (and there are girls who read hentai), you can't do an accurate breakdown with its somewhat enigmatic presence. However, if even 1/5 of the total of the hentai readers are, in fact, female then the girls top 50%, and I'd be willing to bet decent money on that. Of course, this is just the people more likely to be attracted to certain demographics, I don't know if statistically girls who like hentai are more likely to like shounen or whatever, there are a lot of external factors.
Wow. That was way too much ranting for such a simple statement... I need to go do something more productive....
Female:
Yaoi- 19.9
Shounen ai- 3.4
Shoujo- 18.9
Josei- 4.7
Shotacon (presumably, anyway)- 0.9
Total: 47.8
Male total is conversely 52.2% subtracting hentai's 10.5, giving 41.7%
Now, I would say that from a general standpoint, it's probable that hentai attracts at least a 66% male audience, but because it isn't actually targeted at a specific gender (and there are girls who read hentai), you can't do an accurate breakdown with its somewhat enigmatic presence. However, if even 1/5 of the total of the hentai readers are, in fact, female then the girls top 50%, and I'd be willing to bet decent money on that. Of course, this is just the people more likely to be attracted to certain demographics, I don't know if statistically girls who like hentai are more likely to like shounen or whatever, there are a lot of external factors.
Wow. That was way too much ranting for such a simple statement... I need to go do something more productive....
Ah, I guess that's true. What I wrote were just silly and very simplified generalizations. Either way I think it comes down to about half and half...ish. (actually... if you want to take it further (I don't suppose anyone does, but here goes anyway) I could see seinen as another category that attracts a large number of female readers, due to its wide variety of subject matter (as well as the limited availability of josei titles))
i had a hard time between shoujo and josei.....I picked shoujo because I read more of it....I regretted because I think I like Josei more......wish there was more because I would not have made that mistake TT_TT
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AHA! YAOI ALL THE WAY!
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Quote from Crenshinibon
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Take all the people that voted for Hentai and fuse them with the Seinen >_>
Hentai is not a demographic like some one already said is more about the content, same with Loli, Shotacon...
I say in the end we evaluate it like this
Hentai + Seinen
Lolicon + Shotacon
Shoujo + Shoujo Ai
Shounen + Shounen Ai
Yaoi + Yuri
Josei + o.o?
Is more fair in that way
Hentai is not a demographic like some one already said is more about the content, same with Loli, Shotacon...
I say in the end we evaluate it like this
Hentai + Seinen
Lolicon + Shotacon
Shoujo + Shoujo Ai
Shounen + Shounen Ai
Yaoi + Yuri
Josei + o.o?
Is more fair in that way
...it should be shounen ai + yaoi, and shoujo ai + yuri...
In any case, I don't have any idea why hentai would add itself specifically to Seinen, and not Josei or really any of the other demographics. You're basically just taking a huge jump in logic needlessly. It's already like this, just leave it how it is, even if the only real demographics are shounen, shoujo, seinen, and josei (actually, we should have kodomo in there as well...)
i believe its sort of like a flow chart
Shounen > Seinen > Hentai (Lolicon + Shotacon are hentai... just with kids?)
Shoujo > Josei
Shoujo Ai > Yuri
Shounen Ai > Yaoi
this is what I've been lead to believe for the past... uh... decade i guess.
hentai can be argued though, seinen is just violence and anger while hentai is just... porn. they kind of go hand in hand sort of but in terms of explicitness hentai is always explicit where seinen sometimes doesnt have people die or get hurt for a chapter or so.
actually let me change this list
Shounen > Seinen
Shoujo > Josei
Shoujo Ai > Yuri
Shounen Ai > Yaoi
Hentai > Lolicon + Shotacon
there a perfect flow chart
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I underestimated the power of the fan-girl...
makes me wonder how many girls are active readers of manga since both yaoi and shoujo are in the lead.
Mod Edit: This is the second time I'm telling you not to double post
Last edited by blakraven66 at 11:56 pm, Oct 12 2008
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I think the poll would be better and more accurate if we could select multiple options.
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Quote from Jack_T
Shounen > Seinen > Hentai (Lolicon + Shotacon are hentai... just with kids?)
Shoujo > Josei
Shoujo Ai > Yuri
Shounen Ai > Yaoi
this is what I've been lead to believe for the past... uh... decade i guess.
hentai can be argued though, seinen is just violence and anger while hentai is just... porn. they kind of go hand in hand sort of but in terms of explicitness hentai is always explicit where seinen sometimes doesnt have people die or get hurt for a chapter or so.
actually let me change this list
Shounen > Seinen
Shoujo > Josei
Shoujo Ai > Yuri
Shounen Ai > Yaoi
Hentai > Lolicon + Shotacon
there a perfect flow chart
makes me wonder how many girls are active readers of manga since both yaoi and shoujo are in the lead.
Mod Edit: This is the second time I'm telling you not to double post
Shoujo > Josei
Shoujo Ai > Yuri
Shounen Ai > Yaoi
this is what I've been lead to believe for the past... uh... decade i guess.
hentai can be argued though, seinen is just violence and anger while hentai is just... porn. they kind of go hand in hand sort of but in terms of explicitness hentai is always explicit where seinen sometimes doesnt have people die or get hurt for a chapter or so.
actually let me change this list
Shounen > Seinen
Shoujo > Josei
Shoujo Ai > Yuri
Shounen Ai > Yaoi
Hentai > Lolicon + Shotacon
there a perfect flow chart
Quote from Calliber
I underestimated the power of the fan-girl...
makes me wonder how many girls are active readers of manga since both yaoi and shoujo are in the lead.
Mod Edit: This is the second time I'm telling you not to double post
What are you talking about...
Hentai=Drawn porn. Not all shouta/loli is hentai...
Loli and shouta go better with paired with smut=cheap love novel.
And by your "flow chart" it says that shounen ai is more than yaoi...
What the... How? I don't understand you...
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Seinen~<3
Substance, please.
High five.
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Madame Red
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Seinen~<3
Substance, please.
dont try the impossible doc.. you just cant win against yaoi
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Quote from Calliber
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Seinen~<3
Substance, please.
High five.
Anyone else want in on this glory?
What the hell... that has to be the gayest thing I have even seen.
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What the hell... that has to be the gayest thing I have even seen.
Pay no attention to the guy on right.
The high-fiveing bob-cat is what makes this pic pure win
(it could be an ocelot... I'm not sure)
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Quote from bedob
let us honorable people unite in defeating our common enemy known as yaoi...never has your vote mattered more...vote seinen and help us achieve victory!
anything else is better than yaoi winning. shoujo is closely behind followed by seinen.
come on people! if you vote for one of these two, we have a chance!!
btw that picure..........no words for it........
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O.o
Most of the Hentai people would go to seinen.
Josei is the female counter part of Seinen... and in my eyes both are pretty much the same, I don't know why they split it like that, is not like the content is any different, just that the lead is a girl >_>
Japs categorize too much
If there is realism, not sugar pop plots and you can actually be sure that the chances of a happy ending are not 100%, is a Seinen/Josei.
Shoujo the plots are usually good and there are several spins, but regardless of that, it can't beat the human side of Seinen/Josei, I mean that Seinen/Josei plots are imperfect (MAYURI IS RIGHT IMPERFECT THINGS ARE A WIN) and thus in Shoujos you can sometimes guess the ending from the start >_>
Shounen cliches that many people love and like, and I am one, but Plot wise are not a must read.
Yaoi, I have hear that its plots are quite good and sometimes can match the best Seinen/Josei out there, BUT gay love is not something that I like to read >_>
and so I still stand, in the next poll just make it with those 4 and lets see how the vote goes in that one
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Most of the Hentai people would go to seinen.
Josei is the female counter part of Seinen... and in my eyes both are pretty much the same, I don't know why they split it like that, is not like the content is any different, just that the lead is a girl >_>
Japs categorize too much
If there is realism, not sugar pop plots and you can actually be sure that the chances of a happy ending are not 100%, is a Seinen/Josei.
Shoujo the plots are usually good and there are several spins, but regardless of that, it can't beat the human side of Seinen/Josei, I mean that Seinen/Josei plots are imperfect (MAYURI IS RIGHT IMPERFECT THINGS ARE A WIN) and thus in Shoujos you can sometimes guess the ending from the start >_>
Shounen cliches that many people love and like, and I am one, but Plot wise are not a must read.
Yaoi, I have hear that its plots are quite good and sometimes can match the best Seinen/Josei out there, BUT gay love is not something that I like to read >_>
and so I still stand, in the next poll just make it with those 4 and lets see how the vote goes in that one
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