Okay well I'm a lesbian, as some of you all ready know of may have guessed, and I'm married to a girl called Mina. I'm Belgian and there same gender marriages are allowed. Now we're living together in a city close to Tokyo.

I can tell you about my experience how people react when they hear you're a lesbian. Sometimes it really can be a hell. I know when I first told people I was attracted to females, they looked at me if I lost my mind. At that moment you get to know who your true friends are since they support you and don't stop talking to you. And trust me a lot off people suddenly started to ignore and avoid me just because I was "different" then them. They all acted that I got some kinda disease and if they got close I would infect them.
Nothing can ever hurt as much as that did since you thought they would like you no mater if you like people of the same gender.

Even later on when you start to go out and go to parties, a lot of people look strange at you if you kiss a girl. Not to mention then you also got a lot of guys who suddenly become overinterested in you and start to ask if you're not interested in a threesome with them. I can't count the time they asked me that question anymore.

And no matter where you go, when it comes out that you're a lesbian you always get those looks that you aren't normal and are mentally ill. Though you'll learn to ignore that as time progresses.
As far as said about religion, that's crap. It's just the societies acceptation of GLBT that makes it easier for you to live there or not. Like said I now live in Japan and let's just say that it's really difficult on us from time to time when people get to know me and Mina are married. Lucky for us, our neighbors were a bit more open minded and accepted us in the neighborhood.

About having children, we're gonna have a child through artificial insemination and I can guarantee you that it will grow up in a really loving family. I think it doesn't matter if you're a GLBT couple or not to raise a child as long as you try to raise it in a loving family. There are a lot of non GLBT couples who have children and those children get abused and hit by their parents so I don't think you can just say it's better for children to grow up in "normal" families. Things like a socially imbalanced environment and sexual confusion all depends on how you raise your child I think.

Well that's my experience and opinion on the matter.

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So tell me, what's it like living in a constant haze of stupidity?

I'm okay with it.
I have to say I was disgusted by homosexuals and I discriminated my friends who acted like one.
The reason? I grew up with doctrines from my surroundings to despise homosexuals, to see it as a sin and stay away from it.
I believed every homosexuals were annoying and had a very bad attitude. But then I realized that deep down all people are a**holes. Their sexuality doesn't even matter.
I changed, my surroundings did not. Even now the people in my country are discriminating and dissing homosexuals.
Saying inappropriate things like 'you should just die'
'leave this country'
'fear the punishment from God'

I can't help but to feel sad and angry of how stupid they are.
All I can say is, I respect gays as human being, I don't hate them but I am still proud I'm not one.


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well, something that makes me wonder is: when I'm looking for a preference about comedy genre manga than sort it based on the rank, I found that many of them are yaoish theme manga.

is it because a lot of people here is having yaoi or yuri personalities, or because the comedy authors is?

lol, I can imagine; they just think you are more open to things.


As for me, well, just because I am not religious, it does not mean I do not have principles. I happen to like the stereotype of 'Men are attracted to pretty girls,' and I believe there are some things as a man/woman you just can not and should not do.

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I simply, don't give a flying fuck.
Sexuality changes nothing. You're not a part
of the sexuality of others, so you shouldn't make any demands.
There are far more serious issues out there.
Persecuting people for things they cannot change about themselves
makes no sense. It is meaningless to even try. It only causes conflict.

It is very pharisaic to make claims for other people how to
live their lives when one can't even focus on one's own hollow life
and how to live it without forcing other people to live it behest you.
It's their choice to be what they are or to pretend they aren't.
There's only acceptance and denial. Either one is a choice
for the holder of the right to choose, but that who chooses is
only the person him-/herself. Living a lie is regardless, never a good
option. You'll end up not living the life of your own but slowly fading away
like a prisoner, never escaping the burden. Only seeing dreams of the
world outside your little cell.

Principle, a naïve, ugly word.

I'm ok with it, i'm not one to judge other people over something like that, who am i to decide what is right and what is wrong for anyone other than me?

I gotta admit that when it comes to a child i'm a bit scared that the kid would be bullied at school "He/She is the son/daughter of a gay couple"(with meanear words). I'm not saying they would be any less well cared for at home but it always was in my mind the everyday life a kid will have to go trough, specially in his teens when they are so unstable. I gotta say that a couple of guys for parents worry me more that two girls, for some reason people tend to be a bit more open minded toward female homosexuality, at least over here.

Anyway, i haven't seen it my self so i don't think i can say that for certain, people maybe more open minded that what i think.

Heh, only said by those who have None.

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I don't agree with homosexuality. However, I don't think they should burn or be hurt for the way they are. To me, I believe in man and women because that is the way nature has it. Just what I believe in, and feel what's natural. Religion does not make me feel this way either. No one can stop another person so there isn't anything one can do about a person liking their own gender. Just the way of the world.

Why to desire something ugly and naïve?
Life is varying. It's not an unchanging state of recurrence.
Principle is a thing from an immutable world,
a world that does not exist. You can't utilize things that
do not rub elbows with the reality of things.
Principle is a delusion.
It's not enlightening. It is not practical.
It's downplaying varieties, due to incapability of flexibility.
Cowardice masked as pride.
Weakness and insecurity.

i'm going to side with Seijuro on this one, you are seriously being emo, my friend, and i do hate emos. Been overconscientious of obvious concepts and forgetting that you, your self, are a human and could easily go against what bothers you and be an example in place of trying to preach the word with the "i'm over you card", that, let me tell you, is a big fat lie. You are no better nor worst that anybody.

And also, although i don't have the right, i think it's better if we leave this thread alone and discuss, if necessary, with PMs, i have ruined more than enough threads for a life time.

Don't see how I'm being emo. You however are rambling something incomprehensible
and I my friend, sure do hate meth heads.

By your logic, at least.

Do tell which part of this is obvious to you, exactly?
Though it wouldn't matter, does not matter at all what you think,
as something being obvious is a clearly example of you having a
paradigm based on a principle. What about humans, humans what?
Example of what? You fail to see my colours through your prefabricated
answers for your questions. There's nothing obvious about anything.
You're weak. That's why you don't want to realise it. You don't want to think.
I have to say, you are more emo than I can ever be by living in a gray world
that has an answer for everything, readily paved and served cold.
You're telling there is no option, no solution, nothing at all, just that
one thing that guides you blindfolded.

Seriously, PMs.

If you can't understand what i'm writing i'm fine with it, i never talk aiming at what it's write but rather at who write it. Taking into account all the post you had made you are obviously an example of someone who believe himself to be over society, it's normal, a lot of people go trough that, thinking they can see the ugliness of "bla bla bla" and how stupid people are for "bla bla bla" and with out themselves noticing, separate the "people" from themselves, tough more than no noticing is totally on purpose but they don't want to say it "out loud"

But i'm of the belief that discussion on the net is for fun only, since to begin with to make someone believe what you said in person is hard enough with out a solid background.


edit: Seriously, not reading, i just asked for our post to be deleted so this can stop already.

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You're reflecting on your life experience from last year?
Come on, just because you barely got over your teenage nihilism,
doesn't suddenly make you a beacon of light. You're contradicting
yourself at 2 points. 1, you're clearly taking a discussion you say
is just for fun very seriously, 2, you are speaking as if you were
some savant who knows what other people think, while at the same
time saying you aren't part of that fictitious hoi polloi who you so
much claim to know from head to toe. You're telling you know what
I think.

Hahaha! Emo! I knew something was up with that guy; good one.



Oh, the irony here.


Let's get to it:

I wonder why people who don't care keep showing that they don't . . .

Anyway, do not insult what you are unable to comprehend. I can already tell by how you write where you stand on this. It is Principles that guide a Real Man, and lead him down the right, moral path; your extreme acceptance is something that is conjured up by feeble minds such as yours and it is doomed to fail. Mark my words, history will repeat itself. We can only allow so many atrocities before feeling the sting from them and turning into Sodom and Gomorrah. It is that very Pride you speak of which allowed Warriors of the past to battle to death. The true Delusion is what you have been brainwashed to believe, and the fact that you have no thoughts of your own; only those indoctrinated upon you by society.

You certainly are Weak.

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Nice samurai story BigMacBoy.
There's a limit to reading Vagabond.

You fail to grasp what irony is if that is irony.
Do see the next line after it.

> By your logic, at least.

Your principles guide you into a tool box, quite fitting place for you,
apparently.

Feeble mind is a mind nevertheless.
Mindless, is what comes when something readily processed
is inserted in the brain.

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