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Nobu or Takumi (or niether!)???

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Who should Hachi end up with?
Takumi
Nobu
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Niether
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8:14 pm, Jan 30 2011
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Personally, I'm going to have to say out of the two, I would want her to ultimately be with Takumi, AFTER he's done some serious reforming, of course. I love Nobu, but I find Hachi and Takumi's tragic romance captivating.

Though, I think it could also be great if she left Takumi and didn't end up with anyone else. Or if she died (okay, that sounded horrible). But I'm a sucker for unexpected tragic endings.

If she does end up with, Takumi, though, I don't want it to be a happy thing.

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1:54 pm, Oct 8 2012
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Very difficult question...
I absolutely adore Nobu and he loves Hachi with all of his heart. But I think Hachi needs someone tough, someone who can make her a bit harder. True, Takumi might be too hard for her, but she grew when she was with him, she became more independant and that's what she needs. Nobu might be too soft.
But now she has toughened up, it would be nice she could return to Nobu. He can provide for her now he is the owner of his fathers auberge and he's the father of Ren [spoiler] so why not?
But Takumi gave up a lot and has a serious job now and he loves Ren so much, so he has changed I think.

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2:34 pm, Oct 8 2012
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Takumi forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I seriously love his flaws, I think he could change and be a better person.

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2:36 pm, Oct 8 2012
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Takumi, always Takumi. I adore Nobu, it's easy to tell how much he loves Hachi ... but ... I just think Takumi and Hachi compliment each other better than Hachi and Nobu.

Nobu is the sweetest guy ever, but he's too sweet. Hachi is lovely too, but she is also a very sweet person. I think she'd be better off with someone ... firmer, who could scold her when she needs to be scolded.

And the chemistry between Takumi and Hachi kills me. Nobu pulls at my heart strings, but Takumi is just ... too captivating to end up with anyone else!

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7:38 pm, Apr 2 2013
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I honestly don't understand how people can approve for Hachi's relationship with Takumi. It is very clear that he does not give her what can truly make her happy.
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She basically settled with him to marry him so that she did not have to disrupt Nobu's life of wanting to fulfill his dream of becoming a famous musician with Nana, because she would have taken that away from him if she decided to be with him. Although I feel Hachi had been incredibly selfish in wanting to raise the child due to her "maternal instinct", she was also able to give Takumi the "family" that he wanted to return to for the 10% of his life that wasn't business-related.

I guess I kind of have the views of a feminist in the sense that I find it horribly unappealing and degrading to drop everything in order to live as a man's object (especially when he is unfaithful and doesn't truly give her the love she wants and deserves as a human being). He may *sort of* love Hachi, but the "love" she gets from Takumi is basically all he is able to give her, which I don't find to be enough for someone to want to stay with him. No matter what, she will never be more important to him than Reira or his work, and I just think that he doesn't deserve to have someone there like that for him because of his priorities in life.


Thus, I look at Nobu as the perfect solution to literally ALL of Hachi's problems. With Takumi, she continues to feed her own selfish desire, but when she was with Nobu, she actually wanted to do things for him and treat him well. I want Hachi to smarten the f*** up and just accept that she will never find true happiness with Takumi and get a divorce with him so that she can be with Nobu. Being with someone like him isn't an unrealistic solution, as once he had become more established as a musician with BLAST, getting married wouldn't really hold him back from his career, and he would have the means to financially support someone else (i.e. Hachi). I don't think Nobu would truly be happy without her, and I don't think she would truly be happy with Takumi, so why the hell not already?? After he is done with his music career (short-lived because of BLAST's disbandment, since he didn't want to play with anyone besides Nana in the first place) Nobu has nothing keeping him from his family's ryokan, and Hachi can live there with him and her child.

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6:36 pm, Jun 7 2014
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Quite frankly, I'm so sick and tired of everybody making Nobu out to be some kind of hero when he's not. He's so spineless! Like when he found out that Hachi was pregnant, he didn't even try to take responsibiility for his actions. Sure it might not be his, but he didn't even suggest taking a DNA test. Come on, seriously! He needs to man up big time. He practically abandoned Hachi. And then he has the gall to say that she has always loved Takumi more. Well, why shouldn't she Nobu? Especially when you walked out on her when she needed you the most. Not to mention the fact that the next day he acted all fine and dandy.

I seriously hope the kid is Takumi's; the kid needs a reliable parent. And if it is Nobu's, I hope they tell the kid that his dad walked out on him to "pursue his dreams". Now I know you can say that Hachi chose Takumi, but Nobu didn't even try to fight for her, whereas, Takumi took care of the kid even when there was a chance the kid wasn't his.

Conscerning Hachi, I understand she needs love, but one of the main reasons she agreed to be with Takumi was that he provides for her and her child, but yet she complains when he's trying to make the means to do so.

Also, consider the situation from Takumi's eyes: Your girl is only with you because you can provide for her and her child. Meanwhile, she has "forsaken" herself so that her lover can continue pursuing his dreams. Yeah...Really heart-warming there Hachi.

Don't get me wrong, I totally agree that Takumi shouldn't cheat, but don't make him out to be the only bad one in the relationship. Hachi even said herself that she was afraid of Nobu finding out about the bad stuff in her (basicly, she felt she had to be perfect all the time). She also said that Takumi wasn't perfect and that he accepted her for her imperfections.

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6:59 am, Jul 20 2015
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Definitely Nobu, takumi clains he loves her but he cheats on her OVER AND OVER AGAIN, like wtf!confused

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3:52 pm, Jul 30 2015
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I hope someday to read the end of nana. this hiatus is killing me.

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7:14 pm, Sep 15 2018
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SAME. I have my opinions but just not knowing the real ending sucks.

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7:15 pm, Sep 15 2018
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She did not stay with Takumi just because of Nobu's happiness and because of her child. You can see later on the anime & also in the manga a discussion she has with Jun-Chan about her choosing not only Takumi because of all that, but also for herself. I think it's interesting how people choose Nobu for Hachi simply because he's suppose to be the ''Prince'' in this story. Compared to Paradise Kiss, Nana is a way more tragic and realistic anime.There are no knights in shining armor and no idealized love. Nana is not that type of anime, it's mature and personally I think it's not made for a younger audience. People tend to hate on Takumi because he is a workaholic and a womanizer. I don't agree with his cheating and will never be ok with it, but I truly believe he does love Hachi. He said so too, and he's not the type to make things up. I don't think they should end up together because they are ''perfect for each other'', but for bothi accepting each other for whom they are. They are very different yet very similar. Hachi understands Takumi's dedication for work, in fact she actually admires that in him. And even though I think Takumi does not want to loose to Nobu and he sees this somehow as a competition, he truly loves Hachi. That's so clear. Hachi only went after Nobu because she felt lonely after Takumi didn't give her much love. I think this was karma for her since she made her ex (Shoji) feel the same way, which led him to cheating. It's also funny how when Shoji cheated on her, Hachi didn't think twice about letting him go and also never sought an explanation. It's later mentioned between Jun Chan and her boyfriend (forgot his name) how Hachi was also cold towards that, since she was so independent. But later she suspects Takumi of cheating but never confronts him. She could have divorced him at any time and she still wouldn't be in financial trouble, since Takumi would still take care of his children. Later on in the future, it's clear that Hachi and Takumi are not on good terms, but have you realized they are not divorced? Why is that? We might never know but I personally think it's because Hachi does love him. She only reaches out to Nobu when she's lonely. That happened again when she was pregnant and Takumi was helping Reira (after Ren's death) and she and Nobu hugged (he then tried to kiss her). I do think Nobu is in love with Hachi. In the beginning, I think he loved the Hachi he believed was perfect in his head, but after the pregnancy commotion and all the things she put him through he still had feelings for her. Their relationship never had a beginning and an ending, it was left messy as hell. Nana O does mention to Nobu that he likes broken things, since he later dates a porn star (forgot her name too) that is also ''broken''. Nana points out he likes to be the good guy. I think that makes sense, but I do think he loves Hachi.
Tbh I think Hachi is one of the most complicated characters too, cause her feelings are never easy for us readers/viewers to understand. I mean she's SO UNSTABLE. She changes opinions a lot, so that's why we are so divided between these two guys. Honestly she's the most complicated MC for me, even though she has a good background and no dark past she still ends up being a very complicated character (although I really like her). Anyways, I so think she cares about Nobu, but I'm not sure it's love. I think she should end up alone tbh, if not with Takumi. I also read it somewhere someone saying that they believe Takumi hasn't cheated on Hachi for a long time, since in the glimpses of the future he seemed different. It's probably because Hachi caught him cheating with Reira or something similar and decided not to forgive him. And about Takumi and Reira I don't think he loves her romantically, since even in the anime he points that out and when he and Ren talk on the car, Ren mentions how he's amazing for laying down his soul for the sake of his job & sleeping with his little sister. I think Takumi does love Reira, but more like family. He cares for her more than just Trapnest caged bird/singer that's a fact, but I don't think he's in love with her or loves her romantically. He never felt an urge to touch her and even when he does (because Shin couldn't take that responsibility anymore), Reira herself seemed disappointed. I think Reira also idealizes Takumi too, and expect a different Takumi than she gets.
But who knows? Even if Hachi ends up with Nobu and Takumi all alone, I wish we could just know!

Last edited by marianabmoura at 7:27 pm, Sep 15 2018

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12:20 am, Sep 17 2018
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I guess neither.
neither of them seem like they're getting 'older & wiser'
if they're were they wouldn't want anything to do with the poisoned pill of indecisiveness that Hachi is.
I don't know if Hachi needs a permanent partner, mix the distraction of having kids already; I don't think she can summon up the amount of commitment that would keep a decent guy engaged to their relationship.
There's all kinds of people though, just not thinking a readership would find it interesting if she found a guy she only spends 2-3hrs a week with. Of course NANA is pretty different.


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