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1:59 pm, Nov 9 2007
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The second law of thermodynamics supports the fact that without a organized flow of energy the systems descends into a state of disorganized entropy....within a state of disorganized energy....according to the second law there has to be a organized and constant flow of energy to bring the disorganized state of the energy to a more organized state. Because of this a disorganized mass quantity of energy within a system will continue to go to a more disorganized state....that is the essence of the second law.....I like physics and aced it....lol.....And I don't really believe much in a Deity or Evolution

Post #90170 - Reply to (#90167) by JohnGalt
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The second law of thermodynamics supports the fact that without a organized flow of energy the systems descends into a state of disorganized entropy....within a state of disorganized energy....according to the second law there has to be a organized and constant flow of energy to bring the disorganized state of the energy to a more organized state. Because of this a disorganized mass quantity of energy within a system will continue to go to a more disorganized state....that is the essence of the second law.....I like physics and aced it....lol.....And I don't really believe much in a Deity or Evolution


there was a pretty long topic about god that went on for a pretty long time and excatly this thing popped up. There is such a thing a self structuring which goes against this point. The second law of thermodynamics is based on idealized gases and such, you can't just apply it to everything. ( examples: a mixed chemical solution will behave as you mentioned if the components are ideal gases, but chemical properties can lead to very different endings, things like cristalization and so on,... Or think of Sand beneath Water that arranges itself into rows, or Clouds, and so on........... )
I would know like to Quote a greater man than me:
"In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!"
Homer J. Simpson

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There is only one way to know, and that is to wait...

Post #90174 - Reply to (#90173) by kaerfehtdeelb
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There is only one way to know, and that is to wait...

Not really, since we aren't immortal..

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Post #90180 - Reply to (#90174) by Dr. Love
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There is only one way to know, and that is to wait...

Not really, since we aren't immortal..

That was my point, we could find out when we die. There some might be a greater place waiting for our souls, assuming we have souls, and if not then "so it goes"

Post #90219 - Reply to (#90170) by bully_jesus
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there was a pretty long topic about god that went on for a pretty long time and excatly this thing popped up. There is such a thing a self structuring which goes against this point. The second law of thermodynamics is based on idealized gases and such, you can't just apply it to everything. ( examples: a mixed chemical solution will behave as you mentioned if the components are ideal gases, but chemical properties can lead to very different endings, things like crystallization* and so on,... Or think of Sand beneath Water that arranges itself into rows, or Clouds, and so on........... )
I would know like to Quote a greater man than me:
"In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!"
Homer J. Simpson

Yeah....that is true that it can not be applied to everything however, this was in application to evolution involving the forming of the universe and many points dealing with that would involve this Law dealing with heat energy and going from an entropic state up to the composition of forming those chemical elements that would have those effects of self structure, however those particular chemicals and reactions require a certain amount of setup and chemical structure to begin a self structure reaction, those mixtures then result in a reaction which produces the proper response in the chemicals, self-structure follows the law of thermodynamics as well, just because it is dealing with energy and the structure of atoms.

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saw what, I thought this reality was some sort of party zone where you got to play. I came back onto the just see some say its not real. I like feeling the place has in 3D, not sitting around in well clouds of something.

Oh yeah I have died and came back twice, both the guy in purple robes said not your time. The last he had a long haired guy with a flaming sword saying stay till times up.

ooo some of my backgrounds coming back, biggrin . it is a fun topic

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Post #90311 - Reply to (#90149) by moritana
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unfortunately yes ^_^,
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unfortunately yes ^_^,
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You are unmistakable, especialy your hair style that is what gave you away the most biggrin

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Are you the one behind the girl with her hand on her waist?

unfortunately yes ^_^,
how didya know?

You are unmistakable, especialy your hair style that is what gave you away the most biggrin

aiiya, is it that weird?

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Post #90366 - Reply to (#90352) by moritana
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Are you the one behind the girl with her hand on her waist?

unfortunately yes ^_^,
how didya know?

You are unmistakable, especialy your hair style that is what gave you away the most biggrin

aiiya, is it that weird?

I don't think so, it makes you kind of special. The kid pics you posted you are also recognizable you didn't even had to say which one were you, baby one you were found out of eliminary process though laugh

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Are you the one behind the girl with her hand on her waist?

unfortunately yes ^_^,
how didya know?

You are unmistakable, especialy your hair style that is what gave you away the most biggrin

aiiya, is it that weird?

I don't think so, it makes you kind of special. The kid pics you posted you are also recognizable you didn't even had to say which one were you, baby one you were found out of eliminary process though laugh

heh. i have a baby face.

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Evolution, all the way.. but, this is also coming from a science major. eyes

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Post #93008 - Reply to (#90135) by amaranthine
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Actually the second law of thermodynamics support evolution. By adding more organisms to the envirnoment, the entropy increases. Also, structures evolve in ways where energy will flow through it faster and more efficiently and the energy organisms radiate out is also in a higher-entropy form.

>.< I tried to explain it as best as I could. I hate physics, barely passed it in high school.

But, I still believe in a deity.

Actually the addition of more organisms to the environment decreases the entropy of the system by adding more order into the system. Organisms aren't random entities, their cells are ordered and have structures such as organelles.

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