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Post #539603
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3:07 pm, Feb 16 2012
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It used to be just for the Scanlation... and now it's a business. recently going to your site, I was bombarded by ads... and then when i saw the 'mangafox' affiliation on Mangafox's own site... with Dragon and Fly. that was a shock to me. what changed!?

I guess the extrascans guys was right.
http://extrascans.com/2012/02/maoyuu-maou-yuusha-ch apter-09/#more-1730
They said, for a small group like them, they make about 150-200 a week, so, yeah, I'm sure RHS gets 1000$ in addition to all that extra ads and the kickback from MangaFox. You've turn into a business RHS.

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Post #539604 - Reply to (#539593) by neonkitty
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3:07 pm, Feb 16 2012
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I don't use online readers that much since it's much more traceable than irc...if you didn't know...why give myself away when there's no need. You end up downloading the pages too as cache on your computer so it's direct traffic to your computer from the site...evidence that holds in court.

I dun read bakuman, I read beelze...and these days I read raws xD

Why can't we be satisfied....? Well the reason for me is that it shouldn't be right to earn money on the author's work. We do illegal activity but go "We are right morally!" but as soon as we start earning money on scanlations then we can't be morally right anymore. We are just criminals...that's why I can't be satisfied, can you?

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Post #539605 - Reply to (#539600) by cmertb
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3:08 pm, Feb 16 2012
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and I will do the same? xD

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Post #539606 - Reply to (#539603) by DatCat
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3:10 pm, Feb 16 2012
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That was a long time ago. Seems like in the end it was just as Noizy wanted it. One indo out to make money, another indo raging and now doing the same...

Somehow this reminds me of Hitlers dream to make one Europe and now we are making EU. xD

pssst you didn't hear this from me.

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3:10 pm, Feb 16 2012
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T1 enters the thread!
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Post #539608 - Reply to (#539585) by Ascension
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3:12 pm, Feb 16 2012
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I would like to say a lot to you but you already know how I am so I will only say this: Stop doubleposting it's not nice bigrazz

...and yes I care!

PS: You can get sued too since you are very close to where I live...which mean ACTA will kill yaaaaa lol

Post #539609 - Reply to (#539608) by T1
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3:17 pm, Feb 16 2012
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Sorry about the double-posting, pushed f5 after i posted, and for some reason it double posted... Anyway... MY PEOPLE(Including me) ARE PROTESTING! SAY NO TO ACTA!

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Post #539610 - Reply to (#539604) by T1
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3:23 pm, Feb 16 2012
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True but it would be impossible to track every person who has ever used a site like mangafox.

And I'm sorry, I think you misread what I wrote. I was referring to the readers not the scan layouts who are never satisfied. When a manga is licensed most cry that scanlators have dropped it and now that Red Hawk said they will continue with scanlators people are going apeshit for continuing. What I'm saying is that if they are gonna end up reading their scans then they shouldn't say crap. And when I said "you guys are idiots" I'm referring to the readers again. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Post #539611 - Reply to (#539603) by DatCat
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3:26 pm, Feb 16 2012
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Right... because scanslation business is so lucrative that none of the actual publisher is competing. How much money would a licensed distributor with HQ, quick and accessible scans that charge a monthly fee (like magazine fee) for these 'hot' manga scans? Or maybe they are all slow, dumb and rigid businesses that can't get on with this scanslation business. Or maybe there aren't that much money in scanslation in the 1st place (if you only collect from ads).

Post #539612 - Reply to (#539610) by neonkitty
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3:27 pm, Feb 16 2012
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Ahit autocorrect is stupid -_-
I meant scanlators not layouts wtf -____-"
And I meant scanlations not scanlators

Post #539613 - Reply to (#539611) by Oddwaffle
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3:33 pm, Feb 16 2012
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you do know that official editors have to pay for the license, right? ads are really lucrative if you don't hav to pay licences for every single manga. if you have to, then it's nowhere near enought.
that's why there is less and less official editors in english, because team like RHS steal their direct market without a need to pay the license while the official side have to.

Post #539614 - Reply to (#539611) by Oddwaffle
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3:41 pm, Feb 16 2012
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Heh. There are some kids in this biz from poor countries who'd sell their grandma for five bucks. The amount of money that wouldn't make a real publisher (or any normal scanlator) even lift a finger would be enough for a kid like that to get into scanlation, try to pick up every popular WSJ manga out there, and plaster their site with ads and quick bux links. Remember Mangacurse? Some groups just take it far and beyond that, but they're still doing it for money, even if it's not worth the effort by the standards of someone from a wealthier country

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Post #539615 - Reply to (#539614) by cmertb
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3:45 pm, Feb 16 2012
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of course I'm not basing that estimation on the african market... I was talking about the english market which obviously deal in different stading.
However they have to pay: office, staff, license, advertising, printing, distribution, and god know how much more while scanlation covering the same manga don't need to pay more then server and raw cost. I think there is an obvious reason why manga licensed in english shouldn't be scanlated...

Post #539616 - Reply to (#539603) by DatCat
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3:50 pm, Feb 16 2012
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Whoa, what the hell? I wanna be profitable too! Damn...

Post #539617 - Reply to (#539615) by Weaper12
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3:51 pm, Feb 16 2012
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I wasn't replying to you, Weaper. Look at the indent carefully. wink

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