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Post #601127
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10:23 am, May 29 2013
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Well...apart from the obvious "meh" feeling to the chapter I'm still outraged that Naruto's letting Sasuke stand next to him without even making a frown...

I mean...i do get that they have more pressing matters to attend to but c'mon Naruto & Sakura shouldn't be so excited abt having Sasuje back! The list of the guy's crimes is quite long and he did try to kill Sakura and Kakashi...you don't just welcome him back with a huge smile...
On top of that both Ino and Sakura are still gaga over him...seriously, you guys have a village full of alternatives, haven't you outgrown your bad boy phase yet?

I would prefer if the whole of Konoha would ask for a time out, pound Sasuke to the ground and then get back to business...

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Thank god for Fan fics as I can just completely ignore most of the latest crap and headcanon my way to a better ending



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I am also disappointed that Sakura and Naruto just accepts Sasuke as if he never left. >.>

As for everyone wanting to be Hokage, Kiba said he wanted to be Hokage way back in the chuunin exams. Sakura was joking with Naruto, saying she would be Hokage while he's busy complaining that she called Sasuke first and Naruto and Sasuke fighting like little children basically.

The point was not to focus on Sakura needing to be 'saved', Naruto and Sasuke helping Sakura out is supposed to symbolize TEAMWORK, something they struggled with greatly until Sasuke magically decided he'd be a good guy for now. Unlike in the past where they often struggled to get along, they're working together now. It's supposed to be a flashback to the past.

No one complains about Naruto being defended by others so many times, but once or twice for Sakura, it's a terrible crime? Ok. roll eyes

I don't think Sakura is at Naruto's level, nor Sasuke's. But I don't think that's exactly where she was going for. She wanted to be able to hold her own at least. She may not be at their level, but no longer will she absolutely have to just watch them battle it out on their own. She can be there with them, fighting side by side.



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Post #601139
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11:54 am, May 29 2013
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Kishi is a troll and you all know it, something will happen thanks to this spur of the moment while sakura is "strong" i just hope he isnt planing on killing her just to piss those that complain now that she isnt good bigrazz then they will be complaining it wasnt a good move to kill her ^^.

Post #601140 - Reply to (#601134) by kirabook
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fully agree
i kinda said the same thing, you explained it better biggrin

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Funnily enough, I never considered Sakura as 'weak', at least not physically. She even stood out from all the other female genin (didn't really rate Ino and Hinata's character was sometimes off-putting - mostly in the anime though).
Maybe she didn't get many solo fights, but how many characters did? She has proven herself to be a reliable team member: She had the skills, the smarts and even the strength after training with Tsunade (supposedly surpassing Tsunade in raw strength right now?).

My issue with her was how she treated Naruto, like he didn't even matter and that the essential being was Sasuke even though Naruto would've gone through hell and back if she'd ask (and he did -figuratively- when trying to retrieve Sasuke for her sake - but I guess that's unrequited love and Naruto's sole fault).

Right now, I understand how Sakura and Naruto willingly accept Sasuke by their side with no qualms - 'cause let's face it; they're both madly in love with him.

I just don't like being trolled with how everyone just suddenly speaks lightly about wanting to be Hokage and how people are just suddenly whipping out powers out of nowhere that are (almost) on par with Naruto's - Who has a formidable chakra entity fused within him and possesses illusive techniques (and then still thinking they're on that guy's level confused )

I just feel that i've invested so many years in Naruto, that I need to finish it - and i keep naively hoping that something extremely awesome will happen that will make it worthwhile - But like someone else said, I'd just better invent a fan story for myself and be pleased with that.

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Sigh. So, it looks almost given that sasuke will gain a pardon for bringing the former kages into war, who are shown as coincidentially vital to win... Could it get more rigged? let aside that the other villages are set as worthless and unable to survive without leaf.

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2:18 pm, May 29 2013
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Even though Sasuke says he is going to be hokage he won't be accepted because of all the crimes he committed but there is still a possibility he might be accepted to take up Danzo's position which is now vacant as there is always a need for someone to look over the safety of the village from the shadows.

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2:32 pm, May 29 2013
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Sakura hasn't changed, she's still weak. On the other hand, I don't give a shit about this series anymore, Kishi just ruined it.

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I don't think the problem is that Sakura hasn't changed, it's that you haven't changed and refuse to accept the obvious.

Sakura's powerup was long coming. I personally think Kishi waited a bit too long to do so, but it wasn't completely out of thin air.

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I got the same feeling... It's probably because everything kind of felt exactly the way it was before Sasuke went rogue. And that is a bad thing because it kind of negates Naruto's progress, having Sakura or even Sasuke keeping up with him at this point is just awkward. Up until a few chapters ago the shinobi alliance only survived because Naruto shared his chakra around.

Even if Sakura is stronger than Tsunade right now, she is still a tier bellow the Raikage for example because he also has the speed and lightning chakra shroud. She shouldn't even be able to keep up with a sage mode Naruto... he should be just as strong in sage mode plus he has frog-fu and chakra sensing. Sasuke has his sharingan cheats but even he shouldn't be capable of keeping up with Naruto in Kurama chakra shroud mode, which is on a whole other level compared to normal sage mode... He's faster than the Raikage whom Sasuke couldn't keep up with at all.

The reasons why Madara and Obito are strong enough to fight Naruto is because they control the Tailed Beasts, because they've spliced themselves with the First Hokage's DNA, and lastly because they also have the Rinnegan which lets Madara use the same moves as Nagato.

Power level fluctuations aside, at this point I just want to see Naruto shine and get recognition for his efforts and heroism. I want to see the previous Hokage surprised and to praise him... he's earned a little more respect by now. And yet what happens this chapter? Arrogant Sasuke telling Naruto to get out of his way. Sakura somehow keeping up and saying "Sasuke-kun" at every chance she gets, making Naruto look the fool...

I sincerely hope everyone gets their ass kicked (no hard feelings towards Hashirama, Minato, Kakashi & Killer Bee, they are cool in my books) and Naruto saves the day as it should be. Maybe Minato can go and deal with his old students Kakashi and Obito, I'd really want to see how they react to seeing Minato again.



Thank you good sir!! This is exactly how I'm feeling with the latest chapters. To me, it feels as if all "logic" that held the manga afloat is slowly slipping right out the window. I still can't even get over the fact how Sasuke just squeeze his way in. Personally, I love it when villains or antagonists live and die a villain rather than them having some revelation from the mc in the end, its just a mood killer and impossible for anyone to alter someone's opinion in such a short time. I really hope Tobi doesn't alter in the end like punk Sasuke.

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I got the same feeling... It's probably because everything kind of felt exactly the way it was before Sasuke went rogue. And that is a bad thing because it kind of negates Naruto's progress, having Sakura or even Sasuke keeping up with him at this point is just awkward. Up until a few chapters ago the shinobi alliance only survived because Naruto shared his chakra around.

Even if Sakura is stronger than Tsunade right now, she is still a tier bellow the Raikage for example because he also has the speed and lightning chakra shroud. She shouldn't even be able to keep up with a sage mode Naruto... he should be just as strong in sage mode plus he has frog-fu and chakra sensing. Sasuke has his sharingan cheats but even he shouldn't be capable of keeping up with Naruto in Kurama chakra shroud mode, which is on a whole other level compared to normal sage mode... He's faster than the Raikage whom Sasuke couldn't keep up with at all.

The reasons why Madara and Obito are strong enough to fight Naruto is because they control the Tailed Beasts, because they've spliced themselves with the First Hokage's DNA, and lastly because they also have the Rinnegan which lets Madara use the same moves as Nagato.

Power level fluctuations aside, at this point I just want to see Naruto shine and get recognition for his efforts and heroism. I want to see the previous Hokage surprised and to praise him... he's earned a little more respect by now. And yet what happens this chapter? Arrogant Sasuke telling Naruto to get out of his way. Sakura somehow keeping up and saying "Sasuke-kun" at every chance she gets, making Naruto look the fool...

I sincerely hope everyone gets their ass kicked (no hard feelings towards Hashirama, Minato, Kakashi & Killer Bee, they are cool in my books) and Naruto saves the day as it should be. Maybe Minato can go and deal with his old students Kakashi and Obito, I'd really want to see how they react to seeing Minato again.



Thank you good sir!! This is exactly how I'm feeling with the latest chapters. To me, it feels as if all "logic" that held the manga afloat is slowly slipping right out the window. I still can't even get over the fact how Sasuke just squeeze his way in. Personally, I love it when villains or antagonists live and die a villain rather than them having some revelation from the mc in the end, its just a mood killer and impossible for anyone to alter someone's opinion in such a short time. I really hope Tobi doesn't alter in the end like punk Sasuke.


Sasuke is niether a Villan or antagonist. His role is a deuteragonist in otherwords hes pretty much just as important as Naruto.

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Post #601184 - Reply to (#601176) by smarts
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You can call him what ever you want, my main argument is that Sasuke was the only indecisive character in the manga. You're either for something or against something, and Sasuke never justify any of the things he did with facts and logic even when it came down to Itachi.

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7:03 pm, May 29 2013
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Guys guys... I think most of you only "see" the manga and don't really read it if you think the kages will save the day and kick madara's ass just ask yourselves why madara didnt dissapear when Itashi released kabuto's justsu biggrin (Well oroshimaru may be hidden to stop madara's from breaking the justsu tho.) IT will be like all those shounen all over japan... when guy guys will be winning the bad guy will do something and make u feel like he was just playing and kind of win... then the good guy will take everyones power and win. bigrazz

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Let's call this chapter what it was: fanservice. It's cool shit the fans wanted to see, but it doesn't exactly make sense to the plot or characters. I think Kishimoto hoped everyone who loves Classic Team 7 would be pleased by the chapter, but if you like thinking about story structure and character development, the whole thing ends up looking a little awkward for the reasons xtr3m3dude mentioned. So much has happened between these three characters that it's odd to see them fighting together like Naruto + Sakura still know how Sasuke's mind works. And because Naruto has gotten so strong, Kishimoto had to power him down to make the mini-reunion possible (no sage or kyuubi mode until the last page).

Having said that, I just can't be as bothered about this chapter as the rest of you were. Kishimoto has been doing nothing but fan wish fulfillment ever since this whole Shinobi War arc began, so to me, this Team 7 reunion chapter is just more of the same. I mean, what else can you possibly call one-fingered rasengans, bringing back almost every character ever as zombies, giving Itachi his own battle, letting Naruto fight alongside his dad ...need I go on?

About Sakura: this character development is too little, too late, but certainly better than nothing. For a main character, her lack of development has been really pitiful. Kishimoto made her into a strong ninja pretty much "just because" after the timeskip, but everyone had high hopes for her, like finally she was going to live up to her promise as one of the 3 series leads. And then nothing. Kishimoto made her look weak again and pretty much forgot about her. Sakura should have been doing the forehead thingy ages ago and then unveiling a new technique of her own at this stage, but whatever. At least she's no longer berating herself for being a useless ninja. (A personal pet peeve of mine for females in a shounen series.)

About everyone wanting to be Hokage: Hinata said it's the goal of every ninja, so I think it was meant to look cool, like everyone has finally understood the true meaning of what being a ninja is, not that Naruto has suddenly gotten a bunch of rivals. (It was a joke that fell flat, I agree.) But if Naruto is really the reincarnation of the Sage of the 6 Paths, isn't it kind of a waste to make him the leader of just one village? Kishimoto might decide to make him some kind of super kage, the kage that the other kages answer to, in which case, being Hokage is small potatoes and Sasuke or whoever can have it.

About Sasuke: I don't think all is forgiven. The other ninjas were pissed to see him show up, but Naruto backed him, so that's why they're tolerating him (plus they need the help right now and he's strong). Also, there was that scene where Juugo wondered what Sasuke is thinking and Naruto remembered Itachi's words that he left Sasuke to him, so I'm going to guess that Sasuke's mind is not 100% yet, Naruto realizes it, and knows he'll need to do some more work on him.

Personally, I don't think Sasuke's change of heart has been all that bad. It's happened in stages: first Itachi got him to reconsider, then Hashirama gave him a new direction, and now Naruto will have to take it the last step and get rid of his anger. This is certainly much better than what we all thought we were going to get: Naruto beating the crazy out of him. We'll still get that (he so deserves it), but with some character development first, which is a good thing.

Yeah... longass comment. ^_^;

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