The first 240 chapters could have just been an arc where Kurono was the main central character, and now Kato takes his place until the next revival. Or maybe I have no clue what I'm talking about, since the author has already proven he can do whatever he wants within the story.
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But seeing how easy it is to get 100 points now, I don't think it will take long for there being another revival. Heck I bet the lil toddler has racked up 100 points by now 
. But what would happen if Kurono was sent to one of the other Gantz rooms when he died? That is a possibility...
. But what would happen if Kurono was sent to one of the other Gantz rooms when he died? That is a possibility...
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Kurono dying just made the manga better. It's the only manga that I read that every new chapter is a complete surprise. Anything can happen. That makes it one of most realist series I have read, despise the gore and sex being a little exagerated.
In terms of science-fiction, the plot is one of the most original and intriging I have seen. It's really hard to think of a theory that explains everything about the aliens, the vamps and the ball.
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In terms of science-fiction, the plot is one of the most original and intriging I have seen. It's really hard to think of a theory that explains everything about the aliens, the vamps and the ball.
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Kurono dying just made the manga better. It's the only manga that I read that every new chapter is a complete surprise. Anything can happen. That makes it one of most realist series I have read, despise the gore and sex being a little exagerated.
In terms of science-fiction, the plot is one of the most original and intriging I have seen. It's really hard to think of a theory that explains everything about the aliens, the vamps and the ball.
In terms of science-fiction, the plot is one of the most original and intriging I have seen. It's really hard to think of a theory that explains everything about the aliens, the vamps and the ball.
i agree with you on one point, Anything can happen now! which is exicting, you know...i wonder why not much people like this manga...
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Kurono dying just made the manga better. It's the only manga that I read that every new chapter is a complete surprise. Anything can happen. That makes it one of most realist series I have read, despise the gore and sex being a little exagerated.
In terms of science-fiction, the plot is one of the most original and intriging I have seen. It's really hard to think of a theory that explains everything about the aliens, the vamps and the ball.
In terms of science-fiction, the plot is one of the most original and intriging I have seen. It's really hard to think of a theory that explains everything about the aliens, the vamps and the ball.
i agree with you on one point, Anything can happen now! which is exicting, you know...i wonder why not much people like this manga...
because it's just too weird (for them, not for me, reading since first release)
the whole story has a very japanese touch, all these shyness an just-caring -for-myself mentality. (was shocked by the idols statement:"saving the inncocent isn't our job")
the best example is the station scene. hobo felt down, and nobody is helping him, because it's not their problem. here in germany we had 2 "staion pushers" in the last year, people who push people on pourpose in front of an incoming train. one girl was rescued by the people around in the last second, another man was rescued because an other sacrified himself. that's the difference in the mentality in east and west.
and i think it's possible to receive kurono, because he participated in the game, so he is still saved. i think after yor 100-point-release you will remain in the memory of gantz....esspecially kurono, no one was so successful like him in a long time.
but beeing send to another gantz ball would would be very interesting, so far there is just a ball in Tokyo, Osaka and anywhere in Germany^^
my final question: what would happen if all hunters die? would the alien take over the world? by that meaning i think, that in every country has to be a gantz ball.....what if just one team fail?.............
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no way is gantz bad even if kei died. that just shows the creativity of the mangaka. new characters mean new storylines, and hey it doesnt suck at all man. i dont think kuruno really wont come back anyway. even if he doesnt i dont feel bad at all. and kato's not so bad. wont it suck if it's always kuruno that saves the day, give the guy some timespan break. that's just gantz. i love it's realitistic twists.
what he said. totally agree.
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Kurono dying just made the manga better. It's the only manga that I read that every new chapter is a complete surprise. Anything can happen. That makes it one of most realist series I have read, despise the gore and sex being a little exagerated.
what he said. totally agree.
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kei is coming back everyone knows it. He developed a character way too good to keep him dead. Guy went from sniveling wimp and all about me, to kill or be killed/destroy everything and dont talk to me/ to save everyone/ to (insert any other changes he has gone through thus far). To me I hope he doesnt stay out, he is too much of an interesting character to lose.
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Although i like GantZ, i have to sorta agree with the author of this thread. Killing off Kei, even if we know he's going to be revived, is sort of like killing off Naruto (from Naruto for anyone who isn't familiar) and reviving him 40 chapters later. Its just kinda really stupid. I still like GantZ, its just so far part 2 is not doing it for me. 
Oh and a few other things, How is killing people off and then, here's the catch, REVIVING them realistic? It's not. Because people can't get revived from the dead in real life. Q.E.D.
Second, every new chapter i read is not really surprising at all. Its a pretty basic formula at this point. X characters following x character are fighting XX Aliens. Someone dies or develops a kind of bond or connection with x character or X character, (usually x character) whether its a romantic bond, or like familiar bond. Thats vague but pretty much it. He mixes it up with new characters frequently and killing off old ones at random, but to our knowledge he's just going to revive old ones after a break.
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Oh and a few other things, How is killing people off and then, here's the catch, REVIVING them realistic? It's not. Because people can't get revived from the dead in real life. Q.E.D.
Second, every new chapter i read is not really surprising at all. Its a pretty basic formula at this point. X characters following x character are fighting XX Aliens. Someone dies or develops a kind of bond or connection with x character or X character, (usually x character) whether its a romantic bond, or like familiar bond. Thats vague but pretty much it. He mixes it up with new characters frequently and killing off old ones at random, but to our knowledge he's just going to revive old ones after a break.
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Quote from Darknives
Kurono dying just made the manga better. It's the only manga that I read that every new chapter is a complete surprise. Anything can happen. That makes it one of most realist series I have read, despise the gore and sex being a little exagerated.
In terms of science-fiction, the plot is one of the most original and intriging I have seen. It's really hard to think of a theory that explains everything about the aliens, the vamps and the ball.
In terms of science-fiction, the plot is one of the most original and intriging I have seen. It's really hard to think of a theory that explains everything about the aliens, the vamps and the ball.
OKU Hiroya cant think better way?
just kill main char to make manga better?
its too stupid
if they didnt resurrect tae
that would be more realitistic and better ;)
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Although i like GantZ, i have to sorta agree with the author of this thread. Killing off Kei, even if we know he's going to be revived, is sort of like killing off Naruto (from Naruto for anyone who isn't familiar) and reviving him 40 chapters later. Its just kinda really stupid. I still like GantZ, its just so far part 2 is not doing it for me.
Oh and a few other things, How is killing people off and then, here's the catch, REVIVING them realistic? It's not. Because people can't get revived from the dead in real life. Q.E.D.
Second, every new chapter i read is not really surprising at all. Its a pretty basic formula at this point. X characters following x character are fighting XX Aliens. Someone dies or develops a kind of bond or connection with x character or X character, (usually x character) whether its a romantic bond, or like familiar bond. Thats vague but pretty much it. He mixes it up with new characters frequently and killing off old ones at random, but to our knowledge he's just going to revive old ones after a break.
Oh and a few other things, How is killing people off and then, here's the catch, REVIVING them realistic? It's not. Because people can't get revived from the dead in real life. Q.E.D.
Second, every new chapter i read is not really surprising at all. Its a pretty basic formula at this point. X characters following x character are fighting XX Aliens. Someone dies or develops a kind of bond or connection with x character or X character, (usually x character) whether its a romantic bond, or like familiar bond. Thats vague but pretty much it. He mixes it up with new characters frequently and killing off old ones at random, but to our knowledge he's just going to revive old ones after a break.
you win.
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Quote from UberZombie
Although i like GantZ, i have to sorta agree with the author of this thread. Killing off Kei, even if we know he's going to be revived, is sort of like killing off Naruto (from Naruto for anyone who isn't familiar) and reviving him 40 chapters later. Its just kinda really stupid. I still like GantZ, its just so far part 2 is not doing it for me.
Oh and a few other things, How is killing people off and then, here's the catch, REVIVING them realistic? It's not. Because people can't get revived from the dead in real life. Q.E.D.
Second, every new chapter i read is not really surprising at all. Its a pretty basic formula at this point. X characters following x character are fighting XX Aliens. Someone dies or develops a kind of bond or connection with x character or X character, (usually x character) whether its a romantic bond, or like familiar bond. Thats vague but pretty much it. He mixes it up with new characters frequently and killing off old ones at random, but to our knowledge he's just going to revive old ones after a break.
Oh and a few other things, How is killing people off and then, here's the catch, REVIVING them realistic? It's not. Because people can't get revived from the dead in real life. Q.E.D.
Second, every new chapter i read is not really surprising at all. Its a pretty basic formula at this point. X characters following x character are fighting XX Aliens. Someone dies or develops a kind of bond or connection with x character or X character, (usually x character) whether its a romantic bond, or like familiar bond. Thats vague but pretty much it. He mixes it up with new characters frequently and killing off old ones at random, but to our knowledge he's just going to revive old ones after a break.
You ignore the fact that Gantz doesn't really "revive" people, he only makes a new copy, clone whatever. If you have the technology, it would be possible. Memories and thoughts are only electromagnetic waves and could be saved and restored, then you give it to the new created body. Ok this is Scifi but it's still possible.
And for me it's to early to say that Gantz follows the same scheme again and again, maybe this was in the last few chapters so, but I think there will come a big surprise, this happened so many times in the manga... And seriously you really expected, that the two Vampires didn't start fighting with the aliens, I was really surprised when they became "friends"
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about character dying
the truth is, everytime an interesting character dies, you become sad and a little angry cause that character was one of the aspects that made you like the story. but also the truth is that, the author manages to make you fill interested again in the new characters and sitiuations just like you did before.
that makes a manga where you feel a lot more diferent emotions when reading than the majority of other mangas
I have a friend who thought gantz was really cool but was turned off and stopped reading because pf all the sex.
but i think thats a little stupid, at least for him, cause i dont think he didnt like the sex scenes because he though they were disgusting, but because he thinks that it is somthing wrong that people shouldnt like, bc society in general wouldnt aprove it or smth.
i was a little confusing, hope i explained strait
also about the copys. I also think that they really just make a copy. its something done for the people that were left alive, bc the one who died will be left dead.
it makes me remember of the movie Prestige, its similar in concept
yeah, but although you can put it simply like that. its still a really simple presentation. you cant know from that formula what is going to happen in the next chapter or 10. it can give an idea, but still, you cant know to witch characters it will happen and everything. also tha mangaka is always progressing in the story.
it'll be interesting to see the new super strong gantz guys versus the vamps and boss aliens.
i think when people talk about gantz being realistic, its not about the concept of the plot. of course its not realistic, it science-fiction.
what is realistik is the way people react in that situation related to the plot.
like, what would a real person do if something like that happened?
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the truth is, everytime an interesting character dies, you become sad and a little angry cause that character was one of the aspects that made you like the story. but also the truth is that, the author manages to make you fill interested again in the new characters and sitiuations just like you did before.
that makes a manga where you feel a lot more diferent emotions when reading than the majority of other mangas
I have a friend who thought gantz was really cool but was turned off and stopped reading because pf all the sex.
but i think thats a little stupid, at least for him, cause i dont think he didnt like the sex scenes because he though they were disgusting, but because he thinks that it is somthing wrong that people shouldnt like, bc society in general wouldnt aprove it or smth.
i was a little confusing, hope i explained strait
also about the copys. I also think that they really just make a copy. its something done for the people that were left alive, bc the one who died will be left dead.
it makes me remember of the movie Prestige, its similar in concept
Quote from UberZombie
Although i like GantZ, i have to sorta agree with the author of this thread. Killing off Kei, even if we know he's going to be revived, is sort of like killing off Naruto (from Naruto for anyone who isn't familiar) and reviving him 40 chapters later. Its just kinda really stupid. I still like GantZ, its just so far part 2 is not doing it for me.
Oh and a few other things, How is killing people off and then, here's the catch, REVIVING them realistic? It's not. Because people can't get revived from the dead in real life. Q.E.D.
Second, every new chapter i read is not really surprising at all. Its a pretty basic formula at this point. X characters following x character are fighting XX Aliens. Someone dies or develops a kind of bond or connection with x character or X character, (usually x character) whether its a romantic bond, or like familiar bond. Thats vague but pretty much it. He mixes it up with new characters frequently and killing off old ones at random, but to our knowledge he's just going to revive old ones after a break.
Oh and a few other things, How is killing people off and then, here's the catch, REVIVING them realistic? It's not. Because people can't get revived from the dead in real life. Q.E.D.
Second, every new chapter i read is not really surprising at all. Its a pretty basic formula at this point. X characters following x character are fighting XX Aliens. Someone dies or develops a kind of bond or connection with x character or X character, (usually x character) whether its a romantic bond, or like familiar bond. Thats vague but pretty much it. He mixes it up with new characters frequently and killing off old ones at random, but to our knowledge he's just going to revive old ones after a break.
yeah, but although you can put it simply like that. its still a really simple presentation. you cant know from that formula what is going to happen in the next chapter or 10. it can give an idea, but still, you cant know to witch characters it will happen and everything. also tha mangaka is always progressing in the story.
it'll be interesting to see the new super strong gantz guys versus the vamps and boss aliens.
i think when people talk about gantz being realistic, its not about the concept of the plot. of course its not realistic, it science-fiction.
what is realistik is the way people react in that situation related to the plot.
like, what would a real person do if something like that happened?
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Last edited by lambchopsil at 10:38 pm, Jul 21 2007
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its too late that dude already said i win. thats the end. and also, would a "real person", and i mean really, try to kill a
oh yah, and Deva. Can you build me one of those electromagnetic cloning machines? no? didn't think so. But don't feel bad, because im confident no one else can either. Q.E.D
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god knows what that thing was raptor/dinosaur thats 1,000,000,000 bigger than everyone else.
No really they wouldn't. but i respect your opinions on this issue so i declare this battle a tie |-(^_^)-|oh yah, and Deva. Can you build me one of those electromagnetic cloning machines? no? didn't think so. But don't feel bad, because im confident no one else can either. Q.E.D
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its not like he had a choise.
yeah, i also respect, never intended this as a fight
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yeah, i also respect, never intended this as a fight
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Although i like GantZ, i have to sorta agree with the author of this thread. Killing off Kei, even if we know he's going to be revived, is sort of like killing off Naruto (from Naruto for anyone who isn't familiar) and reviving him 40 chapters later. Its just kinda really stupid. I still like GantZ, its just so far part 2 is not doing it for me.
Oh and a few other things, How is killing people off and then, here's the catch, REVIVING them realistic? It's not. Because people can't get revived from the dead in real life. Q.E.D.
Second, every new chapter i read is not really surprising at all. Its a pretty basic formula at this point. X characters following x character are fighting XX Aliens. Someone dies or develops a kind of bond or connection with x character or X character, (usually x character) whether its a romantic bond, or like familiar bond. Thats vague but pretty much it. He mixes it up with new characters frequently and killing off old ones at random, but to our knowledge he's just going to revive old ones after a break.
Oh and a few other things, How is killing people off and then, here's the catch, REVIVING them realistic? It's not. Because people can't get revived from the dead in real life. Q.E.D.
Second, every new chapter i read is not really surprising at all. Its a pretty basic formula at this point. X characters following x character are fighting XX Aliens. Someone dies or develops a kind of bond or connection with x character or X character, (usually x character) whether its a romantic bond, or like familiar bond. Thats vague but pretty much it. He mixes it up with new characters frequently and killing off old ones at random, but to our knowledge he's just going to revive old ones after a break.
You ignore the fact that Gantz doesn't really "revive" people, he only makes a new copy, clone whatever. If you have the technology, it would be possible. Memories and thoughts are only electromagnetic waves and could be saved and restored, then you give it to the new created body. Ok this is Scifi but it's still possible.
And for me it's to early to say that Gantz follows the same scheme again and again, maybe this was in the last few chapters so, but I think there will come a big surprise, this happened so many times in the manga... And seriously you really expected, that the two Vampires didn't start fighting with the aliens, I was really surprised when they became "friends"
you missed the point
real or clone its same in this manga
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