I think teaching kids religion from their young age is child abuse.
It is taking one of their rights away from them, the most important one of them all.
The right to have a free choice. And on top of it all, it is brainwashing cultist stuff. But let me know what you think? Do you agree, disagree?

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well, most of your rights are taken away when you're a child if your using that logic


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I believe in letting people do as they wish, as do I myself. Sometimes, of course, what I wish to do is kill them and they do not wish to die. This gives life interest.

I'm talking about taking your rights away when teaching something that is bogus and irrelevant to the whole scene of evolution. When teaching kids how to eat or how to shit without the dipers, that is useful stuff, and is going to help them in future, but when you teach them to believe something that doesn't exist, and that something that doesn't exist can punish you and always watches you, that is mental child abuse.

Have a look at this video also(read the subtitles btw): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X043xVrQBr8

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Um... Lol is all I can say.

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Your from the order? I've never seen you before.

....to each their own.

But when you word your defense as in "teaching them something that doesn't exist", does that mean it's child abuse to say that Santa Claus exists? That there's a tooth fairy? That babies came from the stork?

While Santa isn't really important to your future, there's the lie about the stork. You're basically robbing children of the idea of sex and the real origin of babies. Do you think that's abuse?

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Right my point is that if you lie to them about Santa Claus and Tooth Fairy or that the babies come from the stork, when they grow up and are 18, they will have an option to quit believing it or keep believing it, but like you said it is irrelevant to their future and it leaves them with a choice. However if you are raised as a christian, you have no more choice, your parents are christians, you are made to go to church on sundays, and because you were raised like that all your life, when you are 18, you are most likely not to make a choice to refuse christianity because that was what you were taught your whole life, your choice was taken away from you subliminaly, during the 18 years of your life you were made to be someone you might have not wanted to be. For example I was raised in a christian family, but they didn't baptise me and left me with a choice for when I became 18 years of age I did have my own choice. And i refused religion. This is because they gave me a choice, they showed me the religious side of life, but I've never been made to go church on sunday, unless it was my choice to go. That's what I'm talking about.

And its not only christianity, it's the same with any other belief, just different methods of believing it.

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Funny video but it is only 1 case of millions.

Right, would you prefer it illegal to teach kids religion? That is what you are getting at right?
I think thats quite funny...If your going to say that, then make religion illegal my friend. Don't cut corners....

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I believe in letting people do as they wish, as do I myself. Sometimes, of course, what I wish to do is kill them and they do not wish to die. This gives life interest.

YES! you are absolutely right, it's only 1 case of millions others. It just shows how much brain damage that little kid suffered.

Some parents for example, let their kids smoke when they are the age of 14, that is killing them right? AND it's illegal, yet they do it. My whole point of it is that religion IS child abuse, so yes, it should be made illegal to teach religion to kids until they are 18.
And like my refference to 14 year olds who smoke, It won't stop religion! no of course not, however it would gradually decrease the looneys like that kid in the video...that's what laws are about. To decrease crimes and violence, not to banish them, because nothing in this life is 100%. It can only be changed gradually...

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That's funny. You have no choice, you say. Just because your parents influence you doesn't mean you don't have a choice. No matter how much they "brainwash" you, you will always have a choice in what you want to believe in. It's just more likely they'll comply. But this is not abuse. You are taking that word too far. But hey, it's just what you believe in, not specifically the truth. There are too many people and levels of religion to say what is really true.

Hell, I'm a Christian. I go to church every sunday and participate in sunday school, but my rational side believes that God is just a concept. And imo, believing in religion is not bad. The method of how religion is expressed can get too extreme though, and that, I condemn. Also, how anti-religious beliefs are expressed can get too far. And those people are no different than the preachers.

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This is the most retarded thing I've ever read... Good day to you sir.

People go from one extreme to the other, forgetting that in reality, the most are in the middle. So in your anti-religion preach you are just as ridiculous as the lil' kid in the video is for you.



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Well to that I have to say, that's only what you believe in, not specifically "The truth".



Hell? That's a bit extreme...on the other hand, like you said, anti-religious beliefs are expressed extremely sometimes, but that's much like religion itself is.




Yes, both of you are also right, there is no difference between preachers and anti-religious people, except for one...Preachers talk a lot of crap that hurts the ears of non-believers in god, and the so called "anti-religious" talk a lot of truth that hurts the ears of those who believe. And in the end it's up to every one of us to decide which side we are on.

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No, for the average family, I don't believe so. There are some really good lessons involved in religion, which can help shape a better person. Granted there are quite a few things that I don't particularly agree with, but that's how it is with most things in life, not just religion. Some people need to believe in a higher power, others just need to believe in themselves, guiding a child until they are mature enough to decide which one is for them, isn't abuse.

I was raised in a Christian environment and was allowed to stop going to church at 10. So even Christians have the right to choose whether or not they continue practicing. Although I think my family may not be the norm, as I never believed in Christ and my brother is now a Buddhist.

You do realize that you can't stop forcing your ideals on to your children, right? There have been lots of people who chose not to believe anymore even when raised in a religious environment, so your argument is moot.

This topic is really close-minded. The same as how overzealous religious people are annoying, so are overzealous atheist people. Does it even matter what anyone believes in as long as they don't force it on other people? Have some respect, will you. You're only making yourself look bad.

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In no way religion is good for people.

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