They give out black belts so easily at some places. Of course it depends on how hard you train, but I think there's also fault in the person who trained that black belt and gave him the belt too. I think you made the right choice quitting.


Kata is the foundation of Karate, it's what you need to train 90% in the beginning and never less than 50%, but you don't get much out of it unless you do pair training for applications and some sparring too. Oh, and kick training (kicking the pads and kick control) is goes also for foundation training, but I didn't take it into count (also, traditional Okinawan Karate only uses front kicks).


If you say it's not martial art because it's a sport, I understand your point of view, but it's still based on a martial art. And you must consider the fact that originally martial arts training was mostly weapons training.


Taiji takes techniques from many styles and it also depends on what family of Taiji it is, like Sun style uses Xingyi (among others). Well, I don't have any experience on newer styles of Taiji, only on Chen style and a bit on Yang style.

Qigong is something that all internal styles have, there's also a style called Qigong, but it's really just the same stuff they do in Taiji for example. It's just that most people practice traditional wushu for health, so they concentrate on that area.

What's this Wu-Tang Tang Lang though? Is that Wu-Tang the same as the Wudang I think of? I've never seen anything real Wudang wushu, all I see is that tourist crap, kinda like all that "Shaolin" crap I see nowadays. I'm also interested how you incorporate Baji in your Tanglang training, as I myself train Baji (it's my main style). I recommend you read the manga Kenji as the information of Baji and various other styles in it is very accurate. What's your main style by the way? Do you train other styles to support your main style, or do you mix them somehow? Sometimes I see people who say they train a dozen different styles, but they just plain suck because they don't take the time to train one style to get any sort foundation to build on.


If you don't get pushed hard enough then you just need to push harder yourself (though it's a lot easier when you have someone scream at your back all the time). I know some people who have thought that they pick up martial arts again "some day" for years now. What I recommend in case it's impossible for you to pick up anything at the moment, is to train a bit by yourself every day. Just to do some roadwork and shadow boxing or kicking (and stretching especially if you do kicking). It's a lot more fun to pick up something again when you're not completely out of shape.


I think it's one of those styles that don't really fit too many people. I think it was originally meant to be used drunk, not to make your opponent think you're drunk. I think the movements help a lot to keep your balance and put strength into punches when you're drunk.

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I didn't actualy realise were it originated from but i don't think i know any clubs around me that teach that stuff anyway. But I know exactly what you mean about using it proparly, Black belt doesn't mean much if you got it through theory alone and then get beat by wind mill arms.

I think the reason why i like drunken master is probably because of the way it looks so unpredictable, that kinda stuff is great in a scuffle. For me to be any good at it...maybe a year or 2 of work.I don't think its possible for me to master it but it'd be good to know it.
Shaolin Kungfu? I didn't realise that existed...


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aaah, I'd love to do a martial art.
but too bad, my mom won't let me, because she doesn't want me fighting.
'No way, you'll only get more agressive!' [insert annoying high-pitched voice here]

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Eh?


You might want to look into Mizongyi (Mizong, Mizongquan, Yanqingquan). It's more straightforward, but it's also pretty unpredictable and deceives the opponent.

If you have relatively good sense and you train hard every day, I'd say in two years you would be able to use it properly. Often when you see a fight between different styles, you have no idea what the styles are; you can't use the specific style unless you've trained properly and have the required strength and structure. And if it's a proper martial arts, it's impossible to master it. No matter how much you train every day for how many years and decades you can always improve (this is one thing I like about traditional martial arts), but we still strive to master it, that's how you get better. If you set your goals low, then it's unlikely that the results are too high either.


Bleh. You get to release your energy on your training partners, if there's no training partners to hit, then of course it's the unfortunate passerby that gets to taste some fist, right? Besides if you're strong, you can protect yourself without hurting your attacker too badly (or rather, hurt them as much as you wish, no more). And besides all that, martial arts gets you in shape and releases stress (and dozen other benefits).

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4 years of kendo between the ages of 14 and 17 - rank of ikkyu (first rank below first dan)
1 year of kung fu (or wushu) - xingyiquan

Well im currently a student under the Kanzen Kai Karate Do.

I'm still what you would call a beginner as i only have a Orange Belt.

That reminds me i need to practice my kata's "runs"

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I don't practice baji, atleast not yet. Basically, the main style for the school is Baji/PiQua. You learn Longfist and Praying Mantis to build your foundation for Baji. We learn piQua to loosen our muscles after the hard baji training. Our Praying Mantis is based on our Baji Training, so there is a lot of power in our motions.

Interesting you recommended that manga, apparently there is a manga for our late master. Forgot which one but I'll have to get back to you on that one.

I don't remember saying anything about Wu-tang "lang". If you must know, http://www.wutang.org/ Check out the website.

Say all of that to my mother.

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I see what you mean, Its just that i'm a person who is competitive. The kind of competitive that not good for you. I watched my friend do a back flip and because he could do it...i made myself do it with no help. I also did the bleep test to 14 because i had someone to compete with, i was no athlete just a normal student, That was when i was like 15 * not much training if any*. If i have no one to compete with i don't excel as much as i do on my own, i dont stretch myself too much . Wierd right?
So i know i won't master it with no friend that i have to compete with. It's just the kind of person i am...

Mizongyi? Have you suggested something to me thats easier to learn but thats not as good?
I heard you don't have to be completly drunk for drunken master style, apparantly its just to relax your muscles.

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I believe in letting people do as they wish, as do I myself. Sometimes, of course, what I wish to do is kill them and they do not wish to die. This gives life interest.

What style is that? Who's your teacher, and what's his linage? I'm doing Hebei style. Well I'm only doing san ti shi, since I'm focusing on Baji, but I'm going to train it more in the future.


That's your job.


Do you know what your Baji lineage is? Considering you're required to practice Tantui and Tanglang before Baji, I imagine it has a lot Tantui/Tanglang influence in it. I've seen some Baji that was heavily influenced by Tantui, and it looked very different from Baji I'm familiar with (mine's rather pure, though it looks a bit different from Baji of my actual lineage, since it's influenced by other lineages)

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Practiced various marital arts for a while until I ran out of funding.

I get criticized by my gramps that I'm wasting my time because there are no real shifus nowadays. Back in his days his shifu was a wanted killer who can break trees with his fists and kill a man with one hand. He hid him at his house and gave him three bowls of rice a day as payment for lessons.

I laughed until the rest of the family confirmed it was in fact a true story.....-_______-:

On an another note though my gramps doesn't remember any of his lessons.....figures.

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There's all kinds of sifus. These days it's hard to find one, but there's still proper ones out there (perhaps not wanted killers though, times are changing and all). It also depends on what they focus on. Not many train seriously actual martial arts, techniques for killing, for surviving. I've been lucky enough to find an awesome sifu (though I came across quite a few not so awesome on the way).

It might not be much, but at least it helps a bit to train by yourself in the hope that one day you might find some wanted killer to teach you for a hideout and few bowls of rice.

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Does Tai Chi count as a martial art? I remeber hearing it originated as one. Anyways, I've been taking Tai Chi classes ever since January. It's both relaxing and helpful in real life.

I've taken karate classes when I was younger but never got into it. My brother also did but he quit for reasons I can't remember.

Didn't notice your post earlier. Anyways... ICTF is some variation of ITF isn't it? What's the difference? The bad side in those new styles is that they're new. There are things you can only learn from few old masters back at Korea. Those old men are the people who've been there before Taekwondo became a sport. They know stuff that might not be very practical for sport Taekwondo but which makes you able to kill your opponents with a one kick/punch to the body, kinda like those old Chinese masters. It may seem that I'm kidding, but I'm not. I've met some of those people—not sure if they can do it, but they sure know stuff that would enable you to be able to with lots and lots of hard training—and between the Taekwondo you usually see and their Taekwondo, there's a world of difference.

And about that Jujutsu you do: it's actual traditional jujutsu, or some modern one that incorporates punches and kicks? It's not Brazilian Jujutsu is it? It's annoying how everyone calls BJJ plain Jujutsu, since it's more like ground fighting judo, nothing like Jujutsu.


Of course it counts. It is a martial art. Practicing it just for health is possible too, but it sort of limits it. Everything has some practical purpose. Ask your teacher about everything he teaches you. What is it's purpose, what does it develop, how do you use it in for real. Those kind of questions. Have you already started tuishou practice? At first it's just about feeling the opponent's power, but later there comes lots of other stuff too. Asking for your teacher to show some fighting and tuishou applications of each technique will help you understand them better too.

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What I said had became a running gag between friends and cousins. Every time I say anything about a martial arts trainer who is internationally known, won so and so awards someone will shout out in my gramps voice "Yeah but has he killed a man before, break trees with his bare fists and kill a man with one hand?" All this said with a eagle claw.

My dad did know this crazy old guy who used to use his kung-fu to help the police to catch gang members in Chinatown. He's some kind of bum now and no one knows where he really is.

Any way....I don't really care its for the exercise after all.

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