they work together for harmony don't get me wrong, Peace (, , , Symbol: ☮) is a term that most commonly refers to an absence of aggression, violence or hostility, with the absence of <-----those things we are at peace.
and can happen without human beings, they don't need to understand they are in a peacefull enviroment, but it is so. "co-existence" is "co-existence", this was merely a part of what happens with the effects of peace.
remember it is the absence of those things. it can exist without us, and we only inveted the term for it so we could describe it, we did not invent it persay.
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But you need a human being to say that they are in peace.
They are only in peace because you think they are in peace.
Ask them if they are in peace, and they won't say they are in
peace. They only exhibit something that a human being who
being present would call peaceful. Hippie symbols and
desriptions would've never come to be without humans.
They also leave with humans. There is no meaning to them
without humans. Just like non-aggression has no meaning like
peace without us.
I suggest you to read my post on page 2,
my elaborative post after the first one you quoted, to
see what I speak of.
They are only in peace because you think they are in peace.
Ask them if they are in peace, and they won't say they are in
peace. They only exhibit something that a human being who
being present would call peaceful. Hippie symbols and
desriptions would've never come to be without humans.
They also leave with humans. There is no meaning to them
without humans. Just like non-aggression has no meaning like
peace without us.
I suggest you to read my post on page 2,
my elaborative post after the first one you quoted, to
see what I speak of.
You don't get it. We call the color green "green". But does that make it its official universal name? No. Green will continue being green whether we call it blue or red. Same applies with peace. Earth will continue being, if we weren't around. It wouldn't be "peaceful", it would just be Earth. Nothing more, nothing less.
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lol!
people need to understand the depth of what im saying, if i say it will be green after we are dead am i wrong? Just because we describe it doesn't mean it is not the same, these words are just descriptions, we did not invent the cause it is just your illusion, and like i said it is not needed to be understood for it to be there!
just because we die of doesn't mean that "green" disapears, we just relate to it by that code, in reality it has always been there.
ask a monkey what peace is it wont understand because it is a human code! bare with me man, understanding of meanings mean nothing, if it is there then we canot say it isn't because we are not around that is just boastful.
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people need to understand the depth of what im saying, if i say it will be green after we are dead am i wrong? Just because we describe it doesn't mean it is not the same, these words are just descriptions, we did not invent the cause it is just your illusion, and like i said it is not needed to be understood for it to be there!
just because we die of doesn't mean that "green" disapears, we just relate to it by that code, in reality it has always been there.
ask a monkey what peace is it wont understand because it is a human code! bare with me man, understanding of meanings mean nothing, if it is there then we canot say it isn't because we are not around that is just boastful.
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Yes I believe that it can be achieved. Peace in the whole world would not exist in the kind of world we have today, but what about just peace anywhere? Peace can exist in different forms in different places. But it is possible.
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lol!
people need to understand the depth of what im saying, if i say it will be green after we are dead am i wrong? Just because we describe it doesn't mean it is not the same, these words are just descriptions, we did not invent the cause it is just your illusion, and like i said it is not needed to be understood for it to be there!
just because we die of doesn't mean that "green" disapears, we just relate to it by that code, in reality it has always been there.
people need to understand the depth of what im saying, if i say it will be green after we are dead am i wrong? Just because we describe it doesn't mean it is not the same, these words are just descriptions, we did not invent the cause it is just your illusion, and like i said it is not needed to be understood for it to be there!
just because we die of doesn't mean that "green" disapears, we just relate to it by that code, in reality it has always been there.
This is basically what I said in my previous post.
What you need to understand, is that WE gave those terms meanings. Without us, those terms would mean nothing. Get it? Hence, green will continue being green, but no one will be there to acknowledge the green. I think you're misunderstanding us. We aren't refuting the essence of what happens or is. We are refuting the fact that something would be able to acknowledge those happenings if humans didn't exist.
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ok but remember the only reason i replied was because someone orginaly refuted the statement that you could get peace through (a simple elimination of the human race). and my gaia theory as to why we are cause to a none harmoniase enviroment.
and the essence of what i ment was that it could, and would exist even without acknoledgement.
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and the essence of what i ment was that it could, and would exist even without acknoledgement.
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We can only gain peace by such measures
if we kill the humankind besides one person
and send the person to space where s/he looks
at the planet and says that it is peaceful.
That however does not equal to killing the humankind.
We still have one human left.
By time the person would die and then the humankind
would die permanently, but nobody would take up the
heritage of pointing out what peace is, therefore
the peace is dead. Then we wait
for the next species to fuck up the planet anyway.
if we kill the humankind besides one person
and send the person to space where s/he looks
at the planet and says that it is peaceful.
That however does not equal to killing the humankind.
We still have one human left.
By time the person would die and then the humankind
would die permanently, but nobody would take up the
heritage of pointing out what peace is, therefore
the peace is dead. Then we wait
for the next species to fuck up the planet anyway.
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no one can prove it! but it certanly could be existing you know. anyways im tired so this is my last post, PEACE out.
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The world has everything needed for peace, yeah,
but nobody will point it out. Just like there can
be enough lumber to make a house, but there is
nobody to make a house out of that pile.
but nobody will point it out. Just like there can
be enough lumber to make a house, but there is
nobody to make a house out of that pile.
With no humans there could be harmony, but harmony isn't peace. And with one remaining human, even if he has the concept of peace, it's kinda pointless since it wouldn't be applicable anymore.
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The world has everything needed for peace, yeah,
but nobody will point it out. Just like there can
be enough lumber to make a house, but there is
nobody to make a house out of that pile.
but nobody will point it out. Just like there can
be enough lumber to make a house, but there is
nobody to make a house out of that pile.
That's just BullSh*t, we don't have peace because we don't have enough resources for everyone. Even if everyone gives some of their belonging to their poorer neighbors, everyone just becomes poorer. The only true answer is technology, when we have invented something[like matter energy transforming machine that makes food out of sunlight] that will solve our need for resources
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The only true answer is technology, when we have invented something[like matter energy transforming machine that makes food out of sunlight] that will solve our need for resources
Those are called plants.
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The only true answer is technology, when we have invented something[like matter energy transforming machine that makes food out of sunlight] that will solve our need for resources
Those are called plants.
Then you better start inventing those plant powered cars
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The only true answer is technology, when we have invented something[like matter energy transforming machine that makes food out of sunlight] that will solve our need for resources
Those are called plants.
Then you better start inventing those plant powered cars
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