im assuming isshin was the former captian of team 5 before urahara, my guess

lolwut?

Shinji, Then Aizen as far as Squad 5 goes.

Urahara was from the second squad under Yoruichi and promoted to 12th captain.

And its pretty clear that Isshin was a Captain level, from the white thing he had trailing behind him.

Where else could Ichigo have gotten his immense power?

Well, since this thread has already been pushed, I might as well share my theory with everyone who wants to hear it...

I think, Isshin was Captain of the 11th Squad 100 years ago (meaning the Kenpachi of his time, quite a nice rank).

This Captain was the only one who was missing during the introduction of Urahara as the new 12th Squad Captain and he was characterized as lazy/laid back and rebellious.
There wouldn't be a reason not to show him if it wasn't someone we knew.

It's just a theory but it would fit.

only thing I think needs to be said about ichigos dad and how he could have something to do with soul society is how can no one know hes last name, dont you think if they heard of another shingami whos called Kurosaki, or do you think he changed his name, because I somehow dont think he would not even kisuke urahara changed his name.

also something I thought was interesting when they mentioned the King

they said

theres no actuality to his existence since he allows for chamber 46 to take care of all soul societys business and never intervenes

in truth neither taichou nor I have actually directly seen him in real life before

but I dont really think ichigos dad could be him lol but it was interesting


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speculation: we know that isshin left soul society for some reason but we dont know what/why. what if... (this is a long shot)... he and urahara (unknowingly) are pulling the whole strings behind this aizen thing? and thats not all; ichigo is a natural vizard, right? so isshin modified him to create his finest work. there. that was kinda stupid

I'm kind of surprised that everyone forgets about the 'Zero' squad who protects the king. Captains get promoted there. I'm thinking perhaps Ichigo's father was one of them? May be outlandish, but possible.

He's obviously kept his identity hidden pretty well. He's only shown his identity to one person so far, Ishida's father.

We're also not really sure who the king is or where the Zero squad is stationed.

I hate so many unanswered questions.

We also don't know Aizen's ultimate motive... but it's obviously been in the works for over 100 years. But, it's bringing a lot of things out into the wood work.

Very unlikely that Isshin was the 11th squad captain during the Turn Back The Pendulum arc. Because, if he was Shinji would have recognized the reaitsu. BUT in fact he did NOT recognize it.

SOURCE: http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/187/03/

so basically what your saying is he could be right, since shinji doesn't recognized it, so isshin came before shinji's time? or like others have said, he may work for the kind? its unaswer as of yet...

speculation: isshin is the real bad guy. aizen works for him. ichigo was somehow a prototype arrancar and a failure since he was still human. however, he is way more complete then shinji and friends

The fact that he was a captain comes in the following pages of the bleach chapter mentionned. Furthermore, if you read on a bit further, we learn that Ichigo's dad left soul society 20 years before the story started. Therefor Isshin comes after shinji who left SS 100 years before!

That would actually make reading the last 100 or so chapters of Bleach worthwhile.

It is hard for me to believe that Ichigo's Father is a bad guy. Aizen is his own leader knowing that because he wants to become the King by creating the kings key. I dont think anything has been mentioned of him working for anyone. My theory on Ichigo's father not being a bad guy is based on he and Ryuuken, Ishida's father, being somewhat of best friends. Hear are the facts:

Ichigo is 15 years old, we can assume that Ishida is 15 years old too.

Ichigos father was a shinigami up until 20 years ago. No one knows how long he was a Shinigami or why he lost or decided to lose his powers.

Hiraku and the others were in soul society 110 years ago when Urahara became a captain.

Urahara was a captain for 10 years.

100 years ago Aizen was descovered doing Hollowfication experiments by Urahara.

100 years ago Urahara fled the soul society, with Yoruichi and the viazard.

When Ishiin defeated Grand Fissor, Urahara came to speak to him. In the convo Urahara mentions that it has been a long time since they have seen each other. Knowing this we can probably assume that Ishiin was in the soul society at the time of Urahara becoming a Captain. They wouldnt have known each other if Ishiin was a shinigami after.
We know that alot of new captains were being appointed around 110 years ago. So maybe Ishiin became a captain around that time as well.

Byakuya recognized Ichigo's fighting style and thought it resembled a person he's fought before. Could this be Isshiin he's thinking about? Byakuya has only showed two people his Senbonzakura Kageyoshi, once to Ichigo and the other to Ishiin? Maybe Byakuya fought Ishiin for desobaying an order or doing something the Soul Society didnt agree with.

Ichigo Kurosaki, I heard some of you ask why The others in Soul Society didnt recognize Ichigo's last name. And Some of you said maybe Ishiin changed his name. I believe that this is a very good assumption. Maybe Ishiin took on the name of his wife when he lost his Shinigami powers since he was no longer the man that name defined.

This is going a bit off topic but a theory that has come to my mind is that Maybe Ichigo is HALF Shinigami HALF Quincy. Since Quincy's are just regular humans with amazing soul pressure and the ability to control soul particals. Which would explain why Ichigo had an enormous amount of soul pressure in his human form.

Maybe Ishiin was sent to finish off the last of the Quincy's in the real world but came across Misaki his wife (MAYBE a Quincy) and fell in love with her. meeting Ishida's father and grandfather along the way. Not being able to accomplish his job he returned to the soul society to object. where possibly Byakuya and Ishiin fought 20 years ago. after being banished to the real world Ishiin and his wife had Ichigo 5 years later. A boy half shinigami half quincy. Giving ichigo enormous powers alowing him to become the first NATURAL Hollowfied being.

This is just a theory I have. it maybe WAY off but it seems logical to me. It is fun to anylize things and imagine where things are headed or where they came from. Look forward to reading more of your ideas too!

no. urahara was like a captain for like a couple of months max
correct me if im wrong

Nope, he had a ten-year tenure as captain, though we don't get to see the majority of the time. It just kinda skips from freeing Kurotsuchi Mayuri to the Hollowification incident ten years later.

Apparently those years were pretty boring and not worth giving us incite into.

... just read yourselves guys... is that really that important as things go in the bleach world... the mangaka can make anything he wants and u got no right to complain so many holes and no ending plot. So dont worry ... if u need to know i'm sure u will know soon or later.