Such is life on the internet.
But I will keep using it anyway. Need my manga from somewhere without havin to download them.

Holmes, you have done it again

it would be nice if everyone posts this on every scanlation site they go to. we might very well get a stopmangafox in the future

edit: ok i see the same owner thing, but where is the ad revenue?

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its cold down here fam ~

second this.
If you ever need to read online manga, it's better to go to the scanlator groups' sites.
MU's list of scanlation-groups is a big help.

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D: i normally just read the first chapter of a series on a reader, mangafox is always the first to show up so i use it from time to time...now i just feel horrible.
what needs to happen is for publishers to make their own site and host English scanlations there!!!
but alas, i will stop using them now :/ cant believe it...

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I thought this was a known fact...

Beside, those sites estimating how much sites earn are bull. Mangafox is in the order of the $100-200k a month, but we can't get a more precise estimate, as we don't know precise visitor numbers.

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You know here I was thinking Scanlators did their thing because they liked it and felt like being good Samaritans to help out other fans. But nope I guess all they care about in meager internet notoriety and bitching about sites that make money though processes that neither effect them nor their fans in anyway at all. Oh that's right you're only bitching about the money they're making because you're not making that money, Even though it's illegal....

So how do you combat this? You impose draconian rules, sink to childish threats, use annoying water marks, or force users to jump through hoops to get your releases. Which is all well and good, until you realize. All this does is piss off your loyal fans and have no affect on the people who break your rules and dodge your hoops (who are in the minority by the way and just will do it more out of spite.)

But I'll let you in on a little secret and it's sure fire way to avoid all this drama and is goes a little some thing like this " WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK!?" your doing this because your doing it for the fans right? so why the hell should you give a crap how fans enjoy your material, if's it's not hurting you or your fans in any way WHO CARES.

It's like giving a bum a dollar then getting pissed at how he spends the dollar. If you're getting all pissy at how fans are enjoying your work you're doing this for all the wrong reasons.

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hmm, seems like someone didn't really understood or is just plain stupid.
Anyways, not my job to bash clueless leecher.

SERIOUSLY! This^
First: I'm a cleaner for a scanlating group. I don't do it because I want people to praise me. I don't do it to horde translated manga scans. I do it to share with everyone. I feel so privileged to show the world a manga that would otherwise would be completely unknown to everyone in the English world. Perhaps maybe even the online scans becoming so popular so they are picked up my North American publishers.

Second: This news about Mangafox is extremely unsurprising. Do I care? No. It's the easiest way to read manga online. They leave the scanlators credit pages (nice touch). They've also managed to avoid publishers (quite the feat if you ask me). Downloading is frustrating, too much work, takes up too much space on my hard drives. (When you get as much as me)

As someone who contributes to the scanlation community as well as someone who supports the manga industry in North America... this news doesn't change anything and I don't care.



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The wisdom is strong in this one. Thumbs up for this post.

Hmm, it's kinda sad that one webpage takes credit for doing something they don't, since it's a lot of work to scanlate..
I've been doing everything from cleaning, typesetting and the like and it's pain-staking and annoying sometimes, but then again I'm doing it for other's who haven't read the series, I own them, I've read them, and I personally upload them to mangafox....but I wouldn't be too happy to see my hard work being released under somebody else's name....I don't mind people uploading my releases where ever they so want, just give me my credit
So in short, the other website is wrong doing that, but I only visit mangafox, and when a scanlator group has it's own online reader, I usually read straight from there site, it's only when they only have a download option that I go look for the release in mangafox, et al....

Hm... that's some silly stuff you're spouting there Jigero(not just the quoted part ). What if scanlators were to pick up that "Who the F*** cares?" motto and just release LQ chapters, or worse nothing at all? What would you read then?

Speaking as a scanlator i can only say that i don't give a rat's ass about the money earning part, I've got plenty of income from my own job for that. The thing that pisses me off is that we work our asses off and sometimes spend hours on a single chapter just to get it out nice and clean and then we barely get any thanks from the fans cause they use an online reader and don't even bother visiting our website.

So in the end we work for free to bring you guys all your favorite mangas in as good a quality as possible and the manga readers get all the fans posting on their forums and all the cash revenue made from the ads. That just sucks.

We're not in it for the hundreds and thousands of fans, we're not in it for the money, we're not in it for any other reason than releasing manga that nobody else would release like we do.

Oh, and another thing... don't badmouth us about this when you're probably fully aware that you wouldn't like somebody else stealing your work just to profit from it. Nobody likes that. Deny it and you would only be a hypocrite.

I dont agree with groups punishing fans either, but mangafox shouldnt be allowed to exist. theyre basically profiting off tons of mangakas works! that's what is irritating. it gives the whole scene a bad name. like we're taking authors work and making a profit.when the internet popularity of anime and manga is what got it to its fame here in the states in the first place. No group wants their work contributing to that. Admittedly, what scanlation groups do isnt really legal, at least we dont profit off of it.

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@Jigero and friends: i thought the problem here is that the respectful Mangafox and disrespectful Mangahere are of the same owner which makes people feel like they are deceived

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I agree with all you say, bro.

But come back when you're a scanlator and actually know what you're saying.

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Speaking as a cleaner you sound kind of selfish. If you don't want to scanlate for NOTHING then don't bother at all. How far can you expect to go working only for praise? You do it good quality because you want to do your best work.

I clean because I love cleaning. I like the series I clean and read them once they've been typeset and translated. How is that so difficult?



As a scanlator I agree with what he's saying. Now what?

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