there's a lot of manga like that too. So I don't count that as an excuse to not read western comics. Its not like you have to start from the very beginning anyway. Eventually some "genius" writer is going to destroy over twenty years of character development because he didn't think it was funny enough.

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Or realistic enough, or dramatic enough, or just 'cause he didn't like the character or didn't want to work with what was given. DC's last retcon was Infinite Crisis, which wiki dates to 2005, so anything post 2005 is fine, and Marvel's constantly changing their storylines. Plus this is what universes are for, stay in ultimate verse or golden age or whatver and you won't get that lost, cause crossovers tend to stay within universe, maybe. Really though, comic wikis are everyone's friend, 'cause I don't think anyone 'cept the most hardcore comic book fans even bothers attempting to keep up with all the comics DC and Marvel are throwing out at the moment.

I miss golden age Superman and Lois Lane. They're so much cooler than their modern counterparts. But I like the most recent incarnation of the flash; he's adorable.

For very serious American comics, Art Spiegelman's Maus is one of the best holocaust books around, and his "In the Shadow of No Towers" is just a must read reaction to 911. His comic books feel like punches to the gut, and you almost feel guilty for laughing (and they're hysterical) and they're a must read for anyone looking for intelligent comics.

why did the league bug you i love that comic is it the art?

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This just in, I have found torrents to Comic books! Demonoid is where I've found 'em.

Partly. I think it may have been the invisible man's rape scene. I guess I wasn't expecting it to be so graphic and violent, and then oops I'm reading it on the subway and hoping nobody looks over my shoulder.

God, I knew there'd be people retarded enough to say Western comics all look and sound the same. And, I knew people would mention newspaper strips.
Moving along, I like and read the following;
Sandman, Sandman Mystery Theatre, Wacthmen, some stuff by Frank Miller (Sin City, Big Guy & Rusty, Ronin) Hellboy and anything Mignola-related, Transmetropolitan, anything by Geof Darrow (Hard Boiled), anything by Moebius (Upon A Star, Blueberry, Arzach), a fair amount of Batman like Arkham Asylum, DKR, Black & White, Year One, Killing Joke, Gotham By Gaslight, Death Jr. and Courtney Crumrin, a fair bit of 2000AD (Dredd, Caballistics Inc.), old Dark Horse monthly anthologies, some B.P.R.D., Tank Girl, Madman, Groo the Wanderer, some Hellraiser, the old Flinch anthologies, Heavy Metal, Sock Monkey, pulp stuff like The Shadow and Doc Savage, Corpus Monstrum, things.

Quick question, what are some good non-superhero comics? I want to start reading more comics but every time I go looking for something good I am bombarded with rehashes of the same old tired superhero story...

Does an aardvark count?.... if yes.... try Cerebus.

One of Cerebus' many famous quotes:
"All babies look like Winston Churchill"

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Just reading about the character on wikipedia and sounds great


My type of guy

Calvin and Hobbes. Its for the terminally ill kid in me.

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specifics?

Already mentioned these, but:
Maus is a good Holocaust tale
Fables spins a whole world around twisted fairytales
"The Walking Dead's" got zombies
"Y the Last Man" is about the last man on Earth
The "Sandman" and "Magic" series by Gaiman are goth/occultish and "Sandman"'s a classic
Sin City is noir/mystery and very worth a read

Highway-STAR mentioned Transmetropolitan, which is about a rogue reporter living in a dystopia

Couldn't finish it, but some people love Persopolis (growing up in Iran)

"Birth of a Nation", by the boondock's cartoonist, is a very funny satire

light:
Owly is all pictures, no words, and brilliant for it
Amelia Rules is a set of comic books revolving around a 4th grader
Minx publishes a couple of comics (manga influenced but not OEL) that are targeted towards girls (I've read/liked Re-Gifters and The Plain Janes)
"American Born Chinese" is okay, but it feels unfinished


What's wrong with strips? That's how I learned to read. And there are some newspaper strips that are far than some of the junk being published in book form.

Fables is good and sin city

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specifics? I suppose non-superhero is my only thing that is needed So everything on your list seems to fit the bill perfectly Some of them sound great, I think the few you recommended should keep me entertained for a while ;) Thx for the recommendations..

Y the Last Man and Persopolis = Recommended!!

I already mentioned Neil Gaiman and Frank Miller in my first post on this thread.

.... and there's nothing wrong with newspaper strips.... Calvin and Hobbes is pure genius..... I'm sure Highway-STAR loves some strips just as much as you and I,story645.... it's just that some people think the only form of "western" comics are the newspaper strips.


Lastly... I recommend Kashmir Pending... it's about the conflict in Kashmir, told from both side.... pretty good stuff. Bought it at an International book fair, so it may be hard to find in stores. (it's in English, BTW... I don't read Hindi, either)

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non-super hero related comics

House of Mystery. - brand new comic its only at issue three, so there's not much to be said about it yet, but it is good so far.

DMZ - America's in the midst of a civil war and Manhattan is the official DMZ. All of that through the eyes of a rookie reporter.

Zombie Proof - yes, more zombies, but its funny, trust me

just about anything in Heavy Metal magazine

Scott Pilgrim- an OEL, but unlike many others it doesn't feel like you're reading a suck-ass clone of a manga

The Sword - so there's a a sword that was forged by demigods that gives you superpowers and makes you near invulnerable, but its not a super hero comic. Seriously, its awesome.

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