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Finally read what's available of Soul to Seoul. Some very charged conversations in volume 3. 😁

CLAMP has tons of subtext all over their series. Though a few may start out with straight couples.

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__ I'll have what she's having... please~♥

Maybe not what anyone's looking for, but Patalliro is INSANELY FUNNY and is basically built on the premise of unresolved sexual tension. Okay, just insanity. But insanity with a lot of gay UST. 😀

I also feel that Buddha and Jesus sort of have mild mutual crushes on each other in Saint Young Men. Sorry. Nobody burn me at the stake, pls. I could just be on crack.

Just occurred to me that an established BL series, Komatta, is actually entirely subtextual. So far, anyway. Also Hakkenden by the same artist, officially titled as shoujo but rly, rly ghey.

More crack: Caramel Devils.

Finally... Glory Age. Pretty, gothic angels having heavenly duels. I think there's implied gay sex between two of the side-characters, but the mains do nothing but eye each other. So far.

EDIT: blackblood1616, totally second everything you've said, esp. PMK. Any more Okita/Hijikata-like manga or stories with subtexty samurai? Also, pls. elaborate on the subtext of Amatsuki; am unfamiliar with that series.

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EDIT: blackblood1616, totally second everything you've said, esp. PMK. Any more Okita/Hijikata-like manga or stories with subtexty samurai? Also, pls. elaborate on the subtext of Amatsuki; am unfamiliar with that series.

I cant think of any samurai ones right now. I think there is others though

Harlem Beat wa Yoake made sorta gave off that feeling

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Any more Okita/Hijikata-like manga or stories with subtexty samurai? Also, pls. elaborate on the subtext of Amatsuki; am unfamiliar with that series.

Nakamura Shungiku, surprisingly, has subtexty historical stuff, though -winces- I can't quite recall if they're specifically samurai or not. I know that Mangetsu Monogatari and Tsuki wa Yamiyo ni Kakuru ga Gotoku are very subtle, at least.

Re: blackblood1616, thanks for the Amatsuki explanation! Will read it now. 🙂

Thanks to others for their samurai thoughts. Here's a subtexty samurai manga - Burai about the Shinsengumi, which is by an artist who also does yaoi, so... yeah. Subtext. 😀 There's crazy chemistry between practically any two characters, esp. between Serizawa/Saito, Hijikata/Okita and (unexpectedly) Okita/Saito. Sadly, scanlations seem to have been abandoned at 2 volumes.

Like Ciel, DNAngel plays around a bit with pairings... xD

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Some seinen subtext:

Zipang: The lead, Kadomatsu, has tonnes of subtext with the man whose life he saves, and who he spends the rest of the series being preoccupied with. (The preoccupation seems mutual.) Another pilot also has subtext with his gunner, who talks half-jokingly about giving the pilot his heart - and when one dies, the other grieves as if for a lover.

Sanctuary has very intense (at least, so it seemed to me) subtext between its two male leads, even after a female love interest appears. In fact, nothing seems to be able to rival their mutual bond...

As someone else pointed out, Yamamoto Hideo's work tends to be quite homoerotic - often in rather perverse ways - such as in Ichi the Killer (overt subtext bordering on text), Homunculus (more subtle subtext) and Okama Report (mostly gags as a result of a cross-dressing male protagonist).

Let's Get Together in Shibuya is by a yaoi mangaka who tries her hand at seinen, so there's lots of subtext between the gently psychopathic yakuza gangster and his hapless accountant.

HEN: Suzuki & Satou is certainly peculiar in a subtexty way; peculiar because of a certain cognitive dissonance in the mind of the main character, who thinks he's in love with a girl even though the body of his love interest is decidedly male.

Monster has subtext between Tenma and the adult Johan (who seems to have chemistry with everyone), Tenma and Lunge (Lunge becomes so obsessed with Tenma that he doesn't even care when his wife and daughter leave him), and several other characters.

And maybe I'm just crazy, but doesn't Prince Canute have subtext with Thorfinn in the all-male Viking adventure, Vinland Saga? At least before Canute pulls a Griffith (re: Berserk), and turns into one of those world-changing Machiavellian geniuses. There's also subtext between Askeladd and his right-hand man, Bjorn, who actually sulks when he feels that Askeladd isn't sharing his feelings with him. o_0; Strange behavior for a manly viking, right? Unless there's something there... Bjorn does remain loyal to Askeladd through thick and thin, and repeatedly risks his life for him. Also, Thorfinn has bizarre Daddy-issues subtext with Askeladd, who he's determined to kill (but never does), and who mysteriously continues to keep Thorfinn under his wing, despite the fact that he knows Thorfinn wants to kill him.

And Berserk, of course, which is the gayest seinen EVAR, and nothing on this (un)holy earth can convince me that Griffith wasn't totally in love/lust with Guts.

Sorry. All appears yellow to the jaundiced eye...

EDIT: Feel compelled to add that a seinen anime, Yukikaze, features the most unusual love triangle in subext history - between two men and a plane. (Man loves man loves plane.) And as if that wasn't enough, the full name of the series is Battle Fairy Yukikaze. It's awesome if rather ponderous; sorry, there isn't a manga version.

I'm only at the beginning, but I suppose Team Medical Dragon does have a subtext.

@stubborn blob: You've just bumped up TMD on my to-read list. 😀

And posting that other thread on European history reminded me about two manga, one shounen and the other seinen... Belmonde le VisiteuR and Mozart Doesn't Sing Lullabies have unexpected subtext that basically spans the whole length of each manga... Very innocent subtext, but still.

Esp. MDSL. Beethoven and Czerny as pretty bishounen who are also a pair of crime-solving musical detectives... Priceless. They tend to stand too close together for no real reason, like so:

http://manga.animea.net/mozart-wa-komoriuta-wo-utawanai-chapter-13-page-28.html

Yeah. 🤨 And they do that ALL. THE. TIME. Not to mention that they talk to each other without words, like so:

http://manga.animea.net/mozart-wa-komoriuta-wo-utawanai-chapter-8-page-11.html
http://manga.animea.net/mozart-wa-komoriuta-wo-utawanai-chapter-8-page-12.html

If telepathy isn't a sign of couplehood, I don't know what is. There's also some Beethoven/Mozart, like so:

http://manga.animea.net/mozart-wa-komoriuta-wo-utawanai-chapter-5-page-35.html
http://manga.animea.net/mozart-wa-komoriuta-wo-utawanai-chapter-6-page-9.html

"Hold his interest," Beethoven? That's a nice way of putting it. And let's not forget the Czerny/Beethoven kiss that Carl yearns for:

http://manga.animea.net/mozart-wa-komoriuta-wo-utawanai-chapter-1-page-29.html
http://manga.animea.net/mozart-wa-komoriuta-wo-utawanai-chapter-1-page-30.html
http://manga.animea.net/mozart-wa-komoriuta-wo-utawanai-chapter-1-page-31.html

_>; What does Czerny think he's saying, anyway? Do students normally want make-up kisses (even hand-kisses) with their teachers? Lol.

Hope that helps!

Lol, seeing at the manga that gets posted here, then EVERYTHING contains subtext. In my opinion, this is just wishful thinking, but whatever. =__=;;

Best friendships =/= homoerotic relationships.

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Of course! Subtext is wishful thinking by definition - although sometimes it's deliberately added by the creator of the manga. But mostly, it's wishful thinking, based on readers noticing a very close bond between two same-sex people that borders on attraction (or could, if you read it that way). 🙂

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Lol, seeing at the manga that gets posted here, then EVERYTHING contains subtext. In my opinion, this is just wishful thinking, but whatever. =__=;;

Best friendships =/= homoerotic relationships.

Then best hatreds = homoerotic relationships?