Wow. Everybody keeps going on about rape.

Anyhow, I hope Casca would not get her sanity back by the end of this series, because if she did. She will not stay by Gatt's side or she'll commit suicide.

My thought on the ending: Seeing how everything in this manga is trying to stay on the realistic side of the world, some really great thoughts on fate, god, religion and life. Gatt will die. There is no way he'll be alive unless every single members of his party is dead and Gatt ended up as the Skull knight number 2.

So yeah, Griffith needs to finish taking over his wonderful bright white castle and have that thing fell down in a fight in front of his eyes. After all, he has so many monsters with him. I'll be surprise if they don't trash his place.

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"It is now time to leave-for me to die, and for you to live-though which of us has the better destiny is unclear to everyone, save only to God."
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For Casca in specific, I can see two possible scenarios

1. Her getting her memory back and accompanying Gatts and then etc, etc, etc (a bunch of theories branch off of this scenario: Example, she betrays Gatts and goes to Griffith [which I wouldn't think would happen])

2. After hearing the Skull Knight say, "is what you want what she wants?" about Casca's memories, I thought that it was a distinct possibility that Gatts would leave her on Skellig Island (or whatevs it is called) in the safety of the Hanafubuku King (Elf King's nickname I think) without trying to return her memories.



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For this series I could only see an dark ending due to the whole series being about killing. I think somehow the world will end and everyone dies and Guts saves the world, the end.

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Well...just to weigh in....my interpretations.

Griffith raped Casca because he was furious at Guts not only for betraying (in his mind) him and causing him to lose sight of his dream but also for stealing Casca from him. While he's in the wagon after the attack he can see how close Casca and Gutts have become and it makes him jealous. He actually tries to strangle Gutts when they first find him, and even tries to force him self on Casca prior to the Eclipse. Casca sees how pitiful he's become and can't bring herself to abandon him and tells Gutts as such (prior to this she was planning to go off with him, as Judeau and the others were going to look after Griffith).

However, once the ecplise beings Griffith actually hesitates to sacrifice the Hawks UNTIL he sees Gutts and those feels come rushing back, and the only thing he can think about is getting back at him.

Gutts ends up kicking far more ass then anticipated and it's not until he sees the demons about to rape Casca that he truly flips out which Griffith sees and decides that violating her in front of him will hurt Gutts far more then anything else he could do to him. So that's what he does. It's clear Casca is already severely addled from everything else going on, and it's probably that Griffith is using some mojo to get his way since making Casca participate would hurt Gutts even more (though this is subjective, as most things such as moans or orgasms can occur whether you're enjoying something or not as they're biological responses). However, it should be noted that during the entire rape event, Griffith's eyes are locked on Gutt's the whole time, he doing it both to satisfy his own ego, as well as to punish BOTH of them for betraying him (in his mind). Casca as enough presence of mind to tell Gutts not to watch cause she doesn't want him to see her violated like that, because she does love him.


As to the child thing. Griffith did NOT possess her child. His vessel, the egg of the new world, had her child inside him when he traded his life for Griffith to be reborn, in the process fusing them into a single entity. The reason he protected Casca as because the child had become a part of him and was protecting his mother (if you'll notice even Griffith seems surprised after flying away that he had acted as such)

It's pretty clear, that being bonded together has given the child some of Femto's power, which he's been using to protect his parents (though the fact that he disappears after doing something strenuous probably means he can't be manifested for too long away from Femto). Whether Griffith is aware of this or not remains to be seen, though given quantum nature of the god hand it's possible he might not.


As to the ending.......it's could go a lot of different ways. All of them credible for what we know at the moment, so speculation is fairly worthless.

Raped to death by some fugly random creatures. (most "possible" ending, I can see so far)
+ I am alredy very optimistic.

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Just wanted to add that if you read the stuff I think its more probable that Griffith actually longed for Gutts and not for Casca. He never looked at Casca in a romantic or attracted way. But it looks like he did that towards Gutts. Raping Casca was not becouse he wanted Casca, but a way to getting back at Gutts for not staying by his side, and a way of "destroying" Casca becouse of Gutts feelings for her. Griffith probably had gay feeling toward Gutts. Never Casca. All scenes where he looked towards Casca were only becouse Gutts was was by her side. Gutts was maybe the only person that Griffith could feel respect and attraction towards.

Anyways. I hope Gutts and Casca in a way or an other end upp togheter in the end, maybe also togheter with the little boy that appeared (since its probably their child or something). And that Gutts kicks Griffiths ass to hell. Thats what i hope for. The manga is also getting less dark and more cheerful, so some kind of good ending would not surprise me. A good/happy ending can still be epic.

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[don't think I understand the concept of "enjoying rape" On a related note, even in the state she was in (for whatever reason), she still didn't want Guts to witness what was happening. It might not count for much for some, but it speaks volumes for me about how much she cares for him]


Lol "Not wanting your current spouse to witness you get raped and impregnated by his bestfriend in a pool of your other allies dead bodies and blood, it really shows she cares a lot!" that should be a basic want in a relationship and this buissiness about it "speaking volumes" is an exaggeration to the 100th degree. on the contrary id say it means nothing and has no point to it at all beacuase she already should've felt that way. sexually aroused, beaten and bruised or not. guts was witnessing half of this shit in the first place too, so this emphasis of how much of a hero casca is for even slightly not wanting guts to witness that in a "sexualy aroused" state is blasphemy.

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