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Post #395893 - Reply to (#394597) by Whatever
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Seriously? Why? I really want to know. How are her actions not stupid, thoughtless, and cruel? How is she worth it? Worth pitying? Her looks are no excuse because there are plenty of cute girls in this manga.

Also in the latest chapters when she is seen laughing and smiling when she's with
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Kazama
it's only because she's talking about
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Haruto.
How thoughtless can she possibly get? How is it nice for a girl to date a guy but constantly wear a sad face around him but only when she
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talks about her ex
does she smile? What guy would ever want or even put up with that?



These questions were actually partially addressed a while back ITT, when everyone was gettting on Nanami and saying she didn't deserve Haruto. And some asked "And what makes Eba more deserving?"

Almost every major decision she;s made in this manga has been sneaky and manipulative. She forccefully inserted herself into Haruto's personal and romantic life in order to get close to him, then she plays hard to get when he confesses, she accepts and then dumps him (in a sneaky way) like a month later. She says she likes Kazama, but she obviously "loves" Haruto. Kouji keeps trying to present her as this tragic heroine, but she just comes across as, well... a bitch. Don't get me wrong, I hate when series do this w/ male heroes too. *sigh*

Sadly, after 2 years reading this has become routine for me so I can't drop it. none

Anyways. Kitomi finally confessed and it seems like Kazama is getting anxious, we'll see what happens after the surgery.


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WTF is everyone getting so anal for. In the beginning Haruto was the one getting all the girls and Eba was the spare tire. Now, the positions are switched and everyone's calling her a bitch?

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WTF is everyone getting so anal for. In the beginning Haruto was the one getting all the girls and Eba was the spare tire. Now, the positions are switched and everyone's calling her a bitch?



well for one. In the begining no one was girlfriend + boyfriend.

From what i have been reading this manga has taken a funny turn laugh The bimbo girlfriend wants to make me laugh.
There are only two options she could have been thinking here to brake up with him.
Guy A: is new BF
1. She felt an extreme amount of sympathy for Guy A who likes her. She then heard this shocking news and offerd her body to charity because he is on his death bed.

NOW what kind of fucking girlfriend offers herself to charity if she has someone she likes? none. Or at least no good ones. SO that might not be the reason as we have read so far.

2. She did like him a little...Now he is on his death bed she wants to make him happy, so she lifts the middle finger to her old boyfriend because he is ok, atm. (in her mind she is a very caring person if it is this option)

This option is practicaly like choosing another man while dating another.

Now that i have clearly thought about it. If it is option 1, she is a horrid person. If it is option 2 she is still a horrid person. Bit of both? Still horrid.
The main protagonist is so blindly in love with her to the point were its laughable. Sure she still likes him a little but isn't this a joke? laugh A little bit of distance...worth three mounths or so and she gave her self to charity? Fuck dat Hoe laugh

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Edit: I think what the auther has done here is called NTR or something? I predict if this manga goes on for another 100 chapter we will see more of this. Eba sounds like the type of girl who midle aged men trick into coming home with them by using candy. She's like a freaking kid. I think i need to go read some comedy now...Seriously....
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Reads spoiler to chap 100 *minaical laughter*

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WTF is everyone getting so anal for. In the beginning Haruto was the one getting all the girls and Eba was the spare tire. Now, the positions are switched and everyone's calling her a bitch?

Erm, have you been reading the same manga as we have? That's not the reason why everyone's calling Eba a bitch laugh
It was because she dumped Haruto without telling him apart from a letter that she left in a present (even that itself is pretty harsh XD), left for tokyo and cut all ties with him without even explaining why properly and is now dating another guy out of sympathy. And she's admitted she's dating him because she owes him for things he's done for her in the past if I remember correctly, and he's only got a year left to live.
So yeah. That's why nobody likes her anymore XD

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Or to put it in another way. Eba wouldn't be hated if she actualy loved Kazama. It would still mean that she lied to and cheated on her boyfriend, but she wouldn't be as horrible. Its understandable that feelings change. So Eba ending up staying with Kazama would be a good ending.

The problem is that everything points towards her still being in love with Haruto. Even Kazama thinks its just pity. Not only does she look miserable and only laughs when she talks about Haruto. She doesn't even hold Kazama's hand, while she hugged and kissed Haruto in public, something japanese are rather reluctant to do, even after she slipped him the breakup and new boyfriend note.

That means that she lied to, cheated on and hurt the one she loves. This is a clear sign of a very bad personality of either liking to hurt the one you love or lacking empathy. Either way so would it make her a bad girlfriend that I wouldn't wish on a nice guy like Haruto.

Now, its pretty obvious that Eba and Haruto is supposed to end up together in the end so I gave it some thought and figured out a scenario that seems likely and fits with how Eba has acted so far. I think when Eba ran off after seeing Haruto holding hands, she made up her mind that she couldn't handle this long range relationship anymore and thought that if she dumped him so would he end up happy with the girl happily holding his hand. Not too bad a plan as the girl was fine with that. She underestimated Haruto's feelings thou. Not too strange as he is pretty shy and doesn't show his feelings as strongly as he should. The problem is that she knows how horrible she acted and can't get out of this situation easily without making everyone hate her. This fits in pretty well with how miserable she seems. What she need to do is fess up and explain why she did things, ask for forgiveness and promise to never ever do something like this again.

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So the Kazama Arc is not over yet ? Ok i will be back in two or three month.
hoo men i miss the old times of suzuka she ad PMS every day but she was never this bad.

PS: I stopped reading after my last post .

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Chapter 100:
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Kazama died. Maybe Haruto has to take care of Kiyomi now. It was Kazama's last wish to him.
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Chapter 100:
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Kazama died. Maybe Haruto has to take care of Kiyomi now. It was Kazama's last wish to him.
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lol I;m only laughing b/c you're laughing. Is this a fake spoiler or for real?

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It's real. I saw the raws over at mangafox.

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seems like it's easy to condemn other peoples behavior
first i don't like this atitude about her having to give explanation because she's his girlfriend! she's not his wife or his property
and then put yourself in her position could you make a plan to have everybody happy with you??
it's easy to bitch about ideal atitudes but how many in real life have we acted justly confused
more like my principles arn't as strong to withstand th flow (flood) of life bigrazz

oh and my fav char is Kiyomi, she's got that dark aura and badass atitude and even if she's shy and awkward she can be sometimes soo wild ^^

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Quote from jasperv
seems like it's easy to condemn other peoples behavior
first i don't like this atitude about her having to give explanation because she's his girlfriend! she's not his wife or his property
and then put yourself in her position could you make a plan to have everybody happy with you??
it's easy to bitch about ideal atitudes but how many in real life have we acted justly confused
more like my principles arn't as strong to withstand th flow (flood) of life bigrazz




Yeah, yeah...What reasons are we allowed to dislike someone oh mighty justice fighter jasperv?
She doesn't have anything to justify but she is what she is. Easy to bitch about ideals? This isn't even a ideal...come on? Really, just picture any real person doing this? Whats idealistic about expecting someone to act like they have a brain? laugh She is a hoe and thats just eyes
Besides this is a manga, you are supposed to judge the charactors that are represented.
Idealistic..?you make me laugh.
Anyhow, the reality of the matter is that for most of these people who are calling her a "bitch", deep down down in the back of their head they are hoping that they are wrong. laugh Hence wanting an explanation to justfy it...ehh but the truth is becoming more obvious as the chapter progress and no one likes it.

Somehow i wasn't upset about the :
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kazama dying XD

He knew what he was doing and he mooched off all the charity he could get. I had a laugh when i found out about the spoiler.


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Ok not expecting that
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kazama dying XD


Are we going to get a
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Are we going to get a
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1 st arc "suzuka" now ? with the dead lover not moving on thing ?

That's what I'm afraid of. And the reason I kinda wanted Kazama to stick around for a bit longer. B/c now, all the characters will be guilted into leaving things as they are now.

It feels like this manga is gonna get pretty unbearably mopey for a while.

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I was expecting this. I mean, how ELSE can you add a bunch of awkward drama to a manga?

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I was expecting this. I mean, how ELSE can you add a bunch of awkward drama to a manga?


*Reads the end of Suzuka again*
Ok then.

Don't really care about the death. I think at this point in the manga, I'm just waiting for the happy ending to come already.

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