if u really wanna go faster that add more powerful gears (batteries)

what if we used a wind shield wiper motor and stick it at the side of the skates instead of putting it in the wheel.........
that would be so much less expensive........
and more easier to make.........
a motor in a wheel is so much hard to make....................
please........lets start on a (not so okay) model like my idea and then we start upgrading it.......
and about the pressure sensor we can use the SPDT switch http://www.instructables.com/id/SLW7GOTF2L4FTBX/

or you can suggest any type of motors

a windshield wiper motor wouldn't work because they dont have enough power to propel a person, u can stop those things with ur bare hands.

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To the people who recommend "stronger motors", I think you should point out these "strong motors". Scaling these motors up to car size proportions would produce race cars that go 400+ mph. The fact that I don't see such cars makes me doubt that these "strong motors" exist.

actually no your forgetting to factor in the weight difference between cars and people plus wind resistance and so on but i agree that those stronger motors do not exist AT THIS TIME. There are however in wheel motors made for cars at this time. In fact, if u search in wheel motors on google, you will find a page about a project i think Nissan took up to make an electric car propelled by these motors. Of course your probably thinking that with dual in wheel motors powering the same Axel, one is bound to be more powerful than the other but that is irrelevant in this case because of a more developed throttle system than what you could fit in a shoe, not to mention with motors that size you could more easily sync them up to run at the same speeds. I'm confident that within ten years, much like processors for computers, the technology will be compressed significantly and we will be able to run faster jump higher and all that nice stuff that was mentioned in the anime but for now, we will have to put up with the much slower single in wheel motors and half baked throttle systems that would actually fit in a shoe

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Well then i think we have a probelm if we can make it out of the current technology that is available then we are basically screwed i really want this too happen and we need all the help we can get and i was thinking does anyone have any connections into the milltarys technolgy section if we are able too they might have something we can use lol the tech that we have thats availble too use doesnt seem too have the power or size we need and maybe they have it or someone could make a small enough motor too go 40 mph and support the humans weight?

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well as i said, 40mph is a fairly realistic goal, they sell these small motors for hobbyists to make electric scooters, its just a case of altering the skates to accommodate the new wheel sizes and figuring out how to mount the batteries and the connector for the controls. Any modification after that is pretty much up to the individual, but of course its best to make sure the motors and batteries are working together before you try to ad more complicated throttle systems. And even if we can't make it to 40mph yet, I'm positive that 30mph is reachable. Which is what? 52km/h? That's the speed limit in my home town. Any faster than that and the cops will get wind of it. And as long as you help the motors along and don't try to go up any steep hills, the batteries should last long enough, i mean 4 or 5 laptop batteries per skate and you should be good to go for a couple hours. And if they die big deal, they are skates not minibikes. BTW any suggestions for a new pair of skates? I broke my skates and my ankle a few months back and now that im all healed im looking for a new pair, not to expensive but good quality (best bang for your buck kinda deal). And also a second pair that would be easily modified to accommodate 2 wheels instead of 4? Thanks for any help.


p.s. I was wrong it's not Nissan it's Mitsubishi that is currently testing a car with in wheel motors, it's called the EVO.

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ok guys
if we want these to be legal we want to keep it at 20 or 25 mph max
this is the standard for ebikes in mosts states at the moment
plus we dont want to well... die
and the name isnt that important at the moment
at least until some one gets a pair of functioning prototypes
and i see someone brought up the pressure control again
this is an extremely dangerous way of controlling the ats due to the fact that we would be jumping and doing all kinds of things that require pressure
what if i want to stop you'd have to hang off something or stand on ur heels
im not trying to put you ideas down but we need to use options that are
practical and safer first and if they dont work then we can move on to others

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As i already said, 20-25 mph is already skating speed, there is no point in adding motors for that. It would just be laziness. Also it will not be possible to make these legal because people are obviously gonna know what they are for, they know we're not using them just to get around, we're putting ourselves in danger. Once again it's best if these never go through commercial production, we would only kick ourselves in the ass afterward. It's best if we keep it low profile and maybe organize meets or something through websites. For the pressure censor idea, i understand your thought process, ur thinking that when we land it would activate the motor and cause us to fall. your right, it will activate the motor but because we are already in motion, the motor wont be able to get enough acceleration in that split instant when we land to make us fall, especially not if u know how to land, if ur a beginner u might wanna learn now before u start on these. As long as u know how to shift your weight you should be fine, but like any sport it will take practice. But like someone mentioned before me, whatever you put into your skate is completely up to you, and if they were built in ur garage than who cares what u call them.

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first of all we have to know how to make AT.We think about that legal thingy AFTER we have succed to make AT and about the pressure sensor....we could use a cable wire to our hands to control it............
we don't have to imitate the AT exactly from air gear ............
we could use large motor that would stick out at the side of the rollerblades or in the front and then chain to to the back wheels........
and then later we could modify it slowly to make the exact imitation of the air trek.......................................................



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@McBlaise: I think if the final result is to make a skate like the cartoon, you would need to start with an in-wheel motor.

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this just my opinion. I don't want it to be legal I want it to be fast. FAST!!! also what happened to fang king he sounded like he was on to something?

I have to agree with the pressure sensor idea it's unrelabal and foolish, just imagine when youre going at high speed and you do a jump you have to land perfectly or you might hit the brakes causing a minor/major accident. And just think for a secound if you manage to pull of the pressure sensor every person has diffrent feet, wait distrubtion and other such factors so every pair would have to be heavily customized.
And if you do some research in most countries the laws are based on the power and size of the moter, and due to size and power we will be using there's a good chance they will be legal well for a while anyway.

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as long as they don't make us wear helmets -.-

@Jay3205:making a in-wheel motor is so hard!!!! I dont want to have AT's exactly like in the anime........cause its like pirating!!!!!
and if we copy it exactly they would say we have no originality....
whats wrong with my idea?it doesn't matter how it looks its how it moves..