Uh, excuse me, everyone is saying no, that it's a rights violation, and that people shouldn't have their choices taken away from them, then you are saying "no we shouldn't let people be paid to be sterilized" and "no one should be sterilized'! Aren't
YOU taking choices away from people, and deciding things for others? If you don't support a persons decision to be sterilized, you don't support a woman getting her tubes tied, or a man getting a vasectomy, because they're the same thing. That means you do not support a persons choice not to have children. And everyone is saying
this is totalitarian?!
Quote
No way. I would not have been born if that was going on! (yes my mom is clean and sober...since she was pregnant with me, so 21 years). Everyone in life is addicted to something, from crack to television. lol, I'd be more comfortable if we sterilized everyone who watched T.V, ate McDonald's and bought the new iPhone.
No, that's like saying because abortion exists I wouldn't have been born because it exists. No one is suggesting forcing anyone to be sterilized. Unless you know 100% that your mother would have decided to sterilize herself you can't say you wouldn't have been born.
As for this, yes and no. Yes, I completely support drug addicts and anyone else who chooses to be sterilized. I do not support paying them. I do however support a general cash incentive for all people who chose not to procreate, like the people who do get in their tax return. Most people should not have children, not just certain groups, all humans. It's an extremely selfish thing to do, the whole idea of it. "I want to have children" or it just happens. "
I want to have a child." They don't bother to consider what the opinion of their future child might, or what their life will be like. Even when they do think about it, it's still within the terms of themselves. People need to think about the big picture more, and make the responsible choice for them and whatever future offspring they may or may not have. Oh, but people do? Look at the state of the world, and how humans act. They do not, and never have.
Quote
You generalise way too much. I agree that a child with drug addicts as parents hasn't started well in life but nothing is written. It takes a stronger mind to get through this, but most people can. Secondly drinking and beating women is not especially encountered in the workers' population, that guy from Oxford can do that much as well as well as much worse.
Isn't that hypocritical?
Quote
But who cares about drug addicts? Drug addiction isn't really genetic, and those idiots usually die young anyway.
I don't know about that, drug addiction itself might not be, but some people can be more predisposed to addiction than others. And even if they do die young, many still manage to pop out a few kids beforehand.
Last edited by ayashe at 2:42 am, Aug 9 2010