Maybe it's a societey thing, but consider that most society views are based on their perception of reality. For example, most societies condemn incest, and we know that incest may produce birth deficiencies, most of the case is traumatizing for both sizes, specialy children, etc, etc, etc.

So what might be behind this "if girl = man, then girl = slut"? It's a scientific evidence that women that have had more sexual partners have more difficulties to get pregnant. Also, women are more susceptible to STDs. If we have in consideration that we are genetically programmed to survive and procriate, women who are sexually promiscous are endangering themselves and any future offspring. In the case of the man, the more women he copulates, the higher the chances of leaving descendants.

I know it sound's unfair, but that how it is. But just because it's different between men and women, doesn't mean it's unfair. Equal rights and views don't imply being similar. We can all be equal, in a individual way.

Virginity is overrated.

And wanting to marry a virgin just seems...immature to me. Sorry! Stop throwing rocks! I mean just a sign of inexperience. There's so much negative propaganda and mystic surrounding sex, especially the first time that it places too much stress on issues that shouldn't be as important as they are.

I think the whole "Madonna and whore" mentality is left over from when women were seen as property whose only value lay in bearing children. Ensuring that the kids were yours, meant ensuring that the woman didn't stray. Hence the disparity in perception. Also the coming of Christianity changed the role of sexuality and women in the west.



Yup, Yup. Well said bully_jesus!

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I also agree with both your points of view

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In other words I have got a bad reputation. ;_;
People are afraid of perverts.
By the way the whole forum is turning into somekind
of zodiac and crypto mag.

yeah but what is a pervert? there is no real definition for it

Outside the sexual norms of community's standars.

be glad it's not the middle ages, anything outside of the missionary - hallelujah - was pretty much sodomy....in other words no candlewax and leather for me....

Sounds plausible. I would add that men on average have had more power/influence than women, and could take what they wanted more easily. In this case, getting lots of tail. People just get used to things. "We" are more used to men having more contact with women, so it can't be that bad, right?
Q.E.D.



Hey Daed, Candlewax is for people who use candles. Candles are Romantic, romantic is gay, you are gay, thats a much bigger problem you will have in your middle ages. Q.E.D.

yeah, still it depends from community to community, and even there from person to person, so you can't really say what is perverted, some even see sex aside from the purpose of getting children as a perverted act
But i doubt all those people saying they hate perverts, are referring to someone who has sex for the fun of it.

if you had become an expert for torture, you could have used those thing as often as you'd have liked to...

innocent kid
maybe a good match for araumi

Well, the thing is that most guys view virginity as a thing to take, so in a lot of their opinions, having a girl's virginity is like owning her in a sort of way. However, a lot of it is actually the guys she's slept with before. If the guy before was a total douche, it makes a girl more undesireable than if she had a nice guy that she had a good relationship with before. It really all depends.

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I have no problem with a woman being a virgin or not. If she isn't one then there is a limit on how many people has slept with depending on the age. And if anyone wanted to know I am still a birgin, so yay for me!

I would prefer some one with equal experience as i have..... but sadly that is probably not possible....because i have lots of experience...actually i am lying i have 0 exp.

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bah.....virgins plz!! ppl who had other partners might have a chance of giving u stds and thats a big no no!!! we cant have that now can we?? and sex is a special thing specially ur first time u wanna share it with someone u luv and care about!! besides i dont believe in sex b4 marriage ^^

BTW: 2 all my friends here im not dead!! tho i wanna be...so much work.....*sob* i havent touched the compu 4 SUCH a long long time...i'll try to come on as much as possible....

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I don't know if thats meant seriously or not due to all the "special" spelling.
Is it?
But by the way, there is a very easy way to keep STDs in check. Exspecially if you have a serious relationship. You both go to a doctor and get a check.

I see your point, but I don’t agree. I’m not an expert on the stuff but I think these scientific evidences are just a well thought-out excuse on your part. (I’m not saying they’re not true, because I’ve read somewhere that women are more prone to some STD, I’m not sure about the pregnancy thing though. And unless I read it in a top tier journal, I would be skeptical)

By your logic, if men are genetically programmed to focus on leaving descendants in order to have higher chances of survival, then natural selection would favor those who can produce more progenies, like quintiplets or something. But evolution is more complicated than that. Then again, I’m hardly an expert on this… so I could very well be spouting BS right now.

Equal in an individual way is nice, but we’re not there yet.



Exactly!