That would be pretty hilarious, but I am not sure if a Shinigami can create a Bankai and still have their Zanpakuto remain in the same state, unless he has two of them or something. Either way I kind of doubt it.

I don't remember which chapter it was in, but anyway: someone said Zaraki didn't even name his zanpakuto nor did he talk with him.

Bankai comes from zanpakuto and shinigami. No zanpakuto = no bankai. No named zanpakuto = no cute pink girl as bankai.

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Yachiru is definitely not Zaraki's bankai. What she could be is the personification of Zaraki's zanpakuto.

If Yachiru is the personification of Zaraki's zanpakuto, than Zaraki can easily reach bankai, because as it was explained by Yoruichi to reach bankai you must bring your zanpakuto into the real world.

However, this theory is unlikely, because Zaraki says Yachiru's name all the time, and his sword is not released, and Yachiru eats food, which probably means she's not a soul spirit.

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i doubt that yachiru is even the spirt of his zanpakuto, i mean, i understand why people could think that....but i just dont think thats how it is
besides, zaraki was said to be the one captian class shinigami to gain that rank without achiving bankai...
so, its possible, but judging by how the two get along, i dont think that thats the case

your saying yachiru is the physical manifestation of Zaraki's zanpaktou. That would make more sense then saying its his Bankai.

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didn't he meet Yachiru before he even became a shinagami?

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y'know, when ichigo fought zaraki, zangetsu noted out how his zanpakuto was in despair for not being named. so i doubt yachiru who is always so upbeat during the battle is an avatar of his zanpakuto in the first place.

also worth noting is that an avatar can only be seen by its wielder unless the device created by urahara is in effect (as was the case with ichigo achieving his bankai). realize this device requires an input of reiki (during ichigo's training, this was supplied by yoruichi). you may argue, zaraki's vast reiki does this, but remember, he met yachiru before he joined the gotei13, so there's no way he could obtained said device and activate it without realizing his avatar has manifested physically.

That's not the point. The point is that without Urahara's device, no one, Ichigo for instance, would even see her. It is extremely unlikely that Zaraki has this device to manifest her, so it is even more extremely unlikely that anyone else, such as Ichigo again, could even see her. Add that to how unlikely it is for her to be manifested without Zaraki even realizing it, and we've got a really unlikely situation.

These are strong points, but i doubt that she is.
Remember when Ichigo "beat" Kenpachi, and Yachiru stated how Ichigo cheated because he used the Reitsu from his body and his sword, instead of using his own Reitsu.
I doubt a Zanpaktou would say someone is cheating if their opponent used the reitsu from their zanpaktou and their body... See what im sayin?

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Im not sure though what degree of seperation might call off something like that though. Im pretty sure I remember that Yachiru at some point goes quite far away from Zaraki during the SS arc when she guides Ichigo's friends up to the top of the mountain.

If yachiru = zaraki's bankai, then zaraki = zanpakuto.

That is if you take all the things discussed in this topic, though Zangetsu did point out that zaraki's zanpakuto was screaming in pain/agony and the two did not trust each other when they fight.
Whether or not yachiru's a zanpakuto is kind of out of the picture when you examine the facts.
Zangetsu's comment about zaraki's zankaputo.
Zaraki owning the sword and using it way before he met yachiru.
The circumstance in which the two met. (kinda just screams yachiru =/= zanpakuto/bankai huh.)

Zaraki's sword is namelss right now, though it is its own entity, and Yachiru is another.entity all to her own with her own powers and zanpakuto.

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that would be the normal way to aquire bankai. he doesnt need urahara's device because he can already physically bring it out (the result of his training for a long time as a shinigami => he says this). the next step, as stated by yoruichi, is to subdue the physical manifestation of the soul cutter which results in the bankai form.

so lets review > 2 things required for bankai

1. must be able to manifest soul cutter
2. must subdue it in a test of its own choice

in order to to fulfill #1 one must know the name of the zanpakuto and then they must be able to manifest it. zaraki is not capable of this as he doesnt know his soul cutter's name. (this is explicitly stated)

to fulfill #2 he must pass a test determined by his zanpakuto. but this isnt possible as he can't fulfill #1

therefore yachiru can't be his zanpakuto's manifestation and thus, not his bankai. it is also stated the zaraki is the one that names yachiru; not her telling zaraki her name (and thats why she is always thankful to him and follows him around) so its impossible to make the claim that "he knew his zanpakuto's name all along"

you forgot the part about him having to be tested by his zanpakuto (which is what renji and ichigo are doing in those chapters)


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i think what you mean to say is that all zanpakuto's have a name, which is true, but that does not mean that their owner's mystically know it deep down in themselves. they must "talk" with their sword and ask it it's name.



shows that the name yachiru did not just "come" to him. there is a previous purpose to the name.



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The owners don't know the names instinctively, case and point, Toshiro. He couldn't hear his zanpakuto's name when it tried to tell him the first time, and probably countless times before.
Ichigo didn't know zangetsu's name either, Zangetsu HAD to tell ichigo who knows how many times for him to finally hear it.

Every person/soul in soul society once belonged to the living world, although not too many people remember what they were before arriving at the soul society, some still carry their memories. Yuichi Shibata for example remembers everything from before he entered soul society, so "Yachiru" could've been someone from Zaraki's past before he died.

Yachiru's a soul reaper, not zanpakuto if you even consider everything that's been going on. IF yachiru found zaraki on her own, IF yachiru was the first to say the name "yachiru", and IF yachiru know of zaraki's condition after his fight with ichigo, then and only then could she have even the slightest chance of being a zanpkuto/bankai of zaraki.

Zanpakuto do share a bond with the owner, zangetsu and zabimaru both pointed it out well enough that if their owners hurt, they hurt too. If yachiru was in any way related to being zaraki's bankai/zanpakuto, then she would've known zaraki's condition after that fight instead of screaming out his name and worrying about him.

Besides, Yachiru is infinitely more powerful than zaraki, when the time comes for her to fight she'll totally outclass everyone, zaraki included.

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Are we forgetting this is a manga? We all know they have a tendency of breaking their own rules and doing things previously stated impossible. I'd say the chances of Yachiru being zaraki's zanpakuto manifistation are higher than you think.