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10!? Dude, that's just disgusting.

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Hey, don't you dude me, woman!
I really don't see a difference in one being ten and one being 13, it's all a question of biolog y meaning puberty and the mental state. I was more "ready" at the age of ten-eleven than some of my friends were at the age of 15. It's different from person to person. I can say that I was "mentally" ready for the sex-part when I was around twelve. But the emotional part, I think this is where things go wrong. Your body may be ready but the emotional pressure the whole sexual act puts on you can be catastrophic.

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Post #110097 - Reply to (#109951) by xombiemonkey
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No need to deny reading loli. It's just a sick, disgusting fetish that everyone will probably hate you for reading. There's nothing wrong with that. Now hurry up and admit you read loli so I can make fun of you.


Not as disgusting as lolicon's and shotacon's younger counterpart. I ain't even gonna mention what it's called coz it's just... freaky. Ain't I right, Ageha~chaaan
*huggles Ageha plushie*

Well, I guess there's no use hiding it. Okay, I admit... I go Ga-Ga over Konata~chan. Loli otaku moe~
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Hey, don't you dude me, woman!
I really don't see a difference in one being ten and one being 13, it's all a question of biolog y meaning puberty and the mental state. I was more "ready" at the age of ten-eleven than some of my friends were at the age of 15. It's different from person to person. I can say that I was "mentally" ready for the sex-part when I was around twelve. But the emotional part, I think this is where things go wrong. Your body may be ready but the emotional pressure the whole sexual act puts on you can be catastrophic.


If by "mentally ready" you mean holding the thought of sex off until the right time comes then I applaud you. I still say no to that, it needs to be regulated. There are much more repercussions and things to worry before, during, and after sex than the emotions. Sex ain't that easy to handle. That's why there are AOMs, AOCs, etc.

Now let's not go further than this, we're going off topic. We're talking about manga and anime, not RL -.-

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I don't like lolis. T_T I avoid them. >.< And Shotas definitely. xD

But I don't mind people who do like them.

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Yes, but does anyone know if it is illegal to have a manga with shota or loli content?!

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Post #110135 - Reply to (#110132) by HeurekaH
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Yes, but does anyone know if it is illegal to have a manga with shota or loli content?!

You probably have that. bigrazz I think. >.<

But in some countries it is, and others not. You should look that up if you want to.

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Yup, Loli/Shota is legal here >; )


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Well, I guess there's no use hiding it. Okay, I admit... I go Ga-Ga over Konata~chan. Loli otaku moe~
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I've got some great Kona pics ^_^

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Yes, but does anyone know if it is illegal to have a manga with shota or loli content?!

You probably have that. bigrazz I think. >.<

But in some countries it is, and others not. You should look that up if you want to.


Yes I do have some shota and some loli, not my favourite genre but unless it's too much than I don't mind. And I do know that it's illegal in my country and I can understand why it is... It's just that I only recently found out. And so I was thinking of if people really know if it's illegal in their own country. There are surprisingly few countries that I know of that has made shota and loli illegal!


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Yes, but does anyone know if it is illegal to have a manga with shota or loli content?!

I'd love to know how far the couple has to have gone for it to be banned-like is dating okay, but no kissing? Kissing, but no sex?. Cardcaptor Sakura has shota and loli and it's on bookshelves in the states. I think Negima's considered shota and it's also allowed everywhere. Not to mention all the shota/loli characters running around many a harem comedy. I know of one case where the publisher dropped the manga when it went into sexual territory, but as far as I know it wasn't mandated-it's just that nobody wants to be the company publishing child porn.


Almost positive it's still legal in the states 'cause it's fiction. I remember there was a big First Amendment/Supreme Court case about distributing pictures of underage minors having sex, and the court ruled it can't be banned. Article's on web based images, but deals with published material

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Yes, there are some debates about shota in the united states. "The United States PROTECT Act of 2003 prohibited obscene or sexual drawings of children, while the Supreme Court in Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition ruled that such legislation is unconstitutional." So I guess it's pending...
But I do know that it is illegal in Sweden, Australia, Norway, Canada and South Africa. That's all the information I've got.

I think the idea of banning pictures and videos with children involved in sex is actually right. But then again, for ME what I read is harmless. I don't like the hard shota, but then again it's all fictional so it doesn't bother me that much. But with the big problems of chid porn spreading over the internet I can understand why they forbidd shota and loli aswell. But stil, I have some pretty cute stories, nothing really hard shota but still... sad

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Quote from HeurekaH
But then again, for ME what I read is harmless. I don't like the hard shota, but then again it's all fictional so it doesn't bother me that much. But with the big problems of chid porn spreading over the internet I can understand why they forbidd shota and loli aswell. But stil, I have some pretty cute stories, nothing really hard shota but still... sad


I agree except that I do like hardcore shota. biggrin

There have been a few cases of manga getting licensed that TECHNICALLY falls at or just above the shota range, but some publishers will up the ages a bit. ((then again, I still consider Loveless Shota-eque, but hey.))




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Yes, there are some debates about shota in the united states. "The United States PROTECT Act of 2003 prohibited obscene or sexual drawings of children, while the Supreme Court in Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition ruled that such legislation is unconstitutional." So I guess it's pending...
But I do know that it is illegal in Sweden, Australia, Norway, Canada and South Africa. That's all the information I've got.

I think the idea of banning pictures and videos with children involved in sex is actually right. But then again, for ME what I read is harmless. I don't like the hard shota, but then again it's all fictional so it doesn't bother me that much. But with the big problems of chid porn spreading over the internet I can understand why they forbidd shota and loli aswell. But stil, I have some pretty cute stories, nothing really hard shota but still... sad


i think childhood romance storys are cute, but anything beyond just romance or kissing, is where i draw the line, i dont even like the thought of children is a sexual nature, hell, i dont even like thinking about people younger than me like that.
but i guess to each their own.

Post #113437 - Reply to (#109925) by ladyviollet
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What kind of sick-in-the-head pervert digs on littly boys and girls?


Jesus. "Let the little children come unto me." (Mark 3:14) Truly, lolicon and shotacon are the pornographic choice of practicing christians the world over.

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Hmm, I don't go out of my way to find either one, but I don't mind them. I'm a sucker for romance. Besides it is so hard to tell the ages of characters with some drawing styles. I used to be bothered by it, but then I met 4chan, and lurked there for a few years. Now nothing really makes me uneasy. I like cute consensual relationships best though. So as long as it isn't rape, IT'S AWWWWWWWRIGHT!



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What kind of sick-in-the-head pervert digs on littly boys and girls?


*raises hand* Though I don't prefer shota over other kinds of yaoi, I'm okay with reading it. Little boys are just there, in my mind, to stress the innocence of the character. All-in-all, if it's good, it's good. Mmm, just thinking about little Yuki in one of the Gravitation Megamixes...

About loli I don't know, so I'm downloading some now to find out, but it's probably the same. I'm just very open-minded or perverted.

EDIT: read some loli and I must say that I like little boys more. Or I like big breasts more, don't really know:lol:

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