their taling about a different kenpachi cause apparently all 11th division captains were named kenpachi..

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Hiyori was the Lieutenant of the 12th division. I read that there have been 10 captains of the 11th including Zaraki. The way i take it is that they are talking about Zaraki winning the fight and becoming the new captain of the 11th. There also hasn't been any mention of any other captains of the 11th being killed to get there spot.

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No, "Kensei" couldn't be a Vice-Captain, since he's wearing that white cape. And I think that Hiyori is standing there, because she's the Vice-Captain of the 12th Division, and since there's no Captain momentarily, she'll be the representative of the 12th Division. Only makes sense, no?


Now that you mention it, you could be right. Nobody said her name, so we don't know if that's Nanao, and there are two clues as to why she might actually be Lisa. First of all, it's the ponytails or whatever you call them. xD Lisa has her hair like that too, and second of all... the skirt! Lisa also wears a skirt, and I can't imagine prudy Nanao to wear such a thing.

If this is true, that's interesting then. They do look alot alike, sisters perhaps? Could be just coincidence too.


Yeah, me too. It could be a new institution, though.

... But! I don't think so. Remember that Yamamoto has been a Commander for at least more than 300 years. ... And that there have been several Commanders prior to him. This means that the Gotei 13 has existed longer than that.

And another thing the Spirit King must be very strong, then. Since he's even way older than Yamamoto, I think. xD


Remember that our Kenpachi didn't have a name, at all. He named himself that way, because that's the title given to the strongest of each generation. And his name is Zaraki, because he came from District 80; Zaraki. Like in the anime flashback, he introduced himself as Kenpachi from Zaraki.

Not until after he became Captain, he became known as Zaraki Kenpachi.

And it's also logical that all 11th Division Captains were "Kenpachis", because the 11th Division is also known as the Division where all the rowdy fighters preside; the strongest fighters. They love fighting more than anything else, and they even have some sort of code for fighting.

Also I find it interesting what Love says; If you want to bemoan anything, bemoan the fact that the previous Kenpachi's ineptidude made it all possible. That makes it look like that the previous Kenpachi was weak/incapable of the job, and therefore beaten of his title by Zaraki.

Seems that Zaraki has been a Captain for a long time too. Approximately 110 years, and Soi Fon around 100-90 years, I think.

It also makes sense that Yoruichi knew of Zaraki, then. Because she must have met/known him, while she was still there.

The last thing that I'm about to say is that the only thing we know about this Hikifune person, is that she doesn't have an ice queen personality or something. And that she's quite "giddy" to meet her new crew.

Hey, and it seems that the 5th Division is the communications team. D: No wonder that Aizen could manipulate Soul Society so easily~

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Yeah I know about kensei, I stated it in my previous post
Hiyori is indeed 12th vice-captain she wears the same band as nemu

I think the 11th captain is Zaraki otherwise why would kubo tite draw/write something like that
Yoruichi will be 2th captain.
Maybe Hachi is vice-captain of the 4th squad with his healingshit

Oh the other vizard mashiro must be also strong/ she was holding her mask for 15hours on her 1st attempt :S

when i found out it was gonna be a flashback chap, after having my adrenaline running on the last 2 weeks, my first response was disappointment. apparently, kubo is in an "awesomeness" streak lately.

after reading all the other posts, i did not notice kensei was there as well as Risa (Lisa), and yes, i am confident that is indeed her being kyoraku's vice captain, what not with the glasses, hairstyle and a tadbit longer face than Nanao. which begs the question; does shunsui has some sort of fetish for cold, glass wearing girls with a somewhat serious businesswoman aura ?

EDIT: shit sure is gonna hit the fan for the anime producers seeing as how the gotei 13 has only been around for 200 or so years, while they interpreted it being around for more than that in the Bount arc.

now, premature speculation time: judging from aizen's reaction towards urahara, it seems he holds some hostility towards him (well, clearly), meaning it may all began awhile before then. it may as well all be inferiority complex towards urahara, that has gone out of hand that drives aizen, seeing how he's always has a holier than thou attitude since he showed his true self.

if this is so, then he's probably really jealous of urahara, seeing how he's following a captain who is apparently is so great to be promoted as a royal guard, while he was stuck with shinji, not to mention how so far urahara has somewhat been praised as a legendary genius. heck, he may even have something for/against hikifune which could partially explain why he's after the ouken; to provoke the royal guards. again, this just all premature speculation. it's very likely i'm very wrong.

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Ever hear the phrase "Never piss off your healer"? She's the leader of the Medical squad, if she's mad at you you don't want to get hurt because her treatment just might be worse than the injury. I am looking forward to these flashback chapters, it's been a bit bogged down in fighting lately and was losing the plot.

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You're mistaken with that. Yoruichi never has been a Captain of the Gotei 13.


Could be, though that would be too predictable, which I don't like. =/ Can't Hachigen and Mashiro be some kind of rogue Shinigami? That would be more interesting.


I know, she was the one who had her mask the longest on her first attempt. Maybe she might even be an ex-Royal Guard?


See, if you read my post, then you know it can't be 200 years or so. =/ The Gotei 13 has already existed for generations. Shunsui only said that from the original guard from a century ago, with other words the Captains from a century ago, only he, Ukitake, Yamamoto and Unohana are still Captains. ... It doesn't say anything about that the Gotei 13 only existed for 200 or so years.

P.S.: Finally Bleach is back! D: There was only fighting and fighting, and no story/plot. I hope it'll redeem itself the coming chapters.

P.S.S: Wait! This makes me suspicious of Tessai, too. We all know he's very strong. He could even use a defensive spell of lvl. 99 or something. So it could be he's an ex-Royal Guard? D:

This makes me even more suspicous. He says that for him, it has been 200 years since he last heard of the Quincies. And this is also proof that the Gotei 13 existed for more than 200 years.

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bleach is gonna be a very loooooong story be4 it comes to an end..since they once again mention another higher level of power (0 division), im guessin there will be another arc involving them after the HM arc..

Yeah ur right
Yoruichi was ex-commander of the division special operations and ex-general of the keigun brigade of the 1st division (punishment force)
Mashiro I would love to know about her she is so innocent and funny

Last edited by Ali_Ilegali at 10:17 am, Mar 29 2008

They already mentioned that a long time ago. All they did now was give it an alias, Division 0.



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Well, there is that, and there is also the fact that....

Yeah, but that just belittles her in a way. I just perceived her description as being "piss her off enough she'll kick your @$$" instead of "the cure is worse than the ailment."

Not necessarily. That vice captain for 1st division is also wearing a cape similar to the other captains, though no special design and doesn't appear to be as long (haven't seen a clear picture of him so I can't say for sure).

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