How about, "Which sort of offensive material is most likely to cause you to drop a manga/anime when you encounter it in a series?"

Amen to this.



Every time I get annoyed reading a manga; it's the author, not the manga in question, that I find to be the target of my anger.

It's only after remembering that the poor little author managed to put together a manga of some kind, despite all the troubles they might have been passing through at the same time (potentially speaking), that I feel at ease.
After all, this particular manga depicts their own view or their own story.
They express themselves and get what? my grudge? No. Not mine.

The last choice FTW.

Last edited by for_MUssi at 6:16 pm, Dec 14 2015

paedophilia should probably be defined

age of consent isn't the same in every country

it's 12 in Angola, 13 in Spain until recently, 14 in Japan and 15 in France so...

Depends on what the author is trying to say. I'm okay with any material as long as they don't make it socially acceptable to the viewers.

Yeah, it really depends on the framing and what the story is about.
it usually is only offensive to me when it is gratuitous.

i avoid anything with gratuitous violence. but i wont say im 'pissed off'. i come to accept rape = love in my yaoi so im not pissed off with that anymore. i AM pissed off with incorrect information though if they try to make the story 'factual' but full of mumbo jumbo hogwash. for example smoking some weed and now you are a serial killer. im also pissed off generally with shoujo with weak girl falling for the bad boy so i guess this come under 'any other sort of prejudice'.

Nothing from that list really bothers me. Granted, I don't really read too much with graphic violence anymore, since I don't have quite as much of a tolerance for it now, but I can still deal with it. There are certainly a few things that aren't on the poll that bother me, though.

Sweet Jesus, I can only pick one? Not a chance.

Pedophilia is likely my least favorite. I really don't care what other people want to beat their dick to, but some of the things I've seen is fucking awful. Crap like that happening in RL fucks a kid up mentally. I'm no psychiatrist, but I'm not stupid either. I've seen categories like "mind break," which is so beyond fucked up that people would enjoy this material.

Incest is another big one for me. It's just wrong, even on the genetic level. Anyone who argues in favor of incest is very likely sexually repressed. Is it that no other girls/guys talks to them, so they lust after the only people that give them attention? The psychology behind it is not my strong point, but it's wrong no matter what. Nothing like flipping a coin for whether your child will be physically and/or mentally retarded. I feel sorry for those people.

Rape is the last big one I'll discuss, because I get pissed off at a lot of the inconsiderate crap they do in manga (like blatant racism). I've seen so many times in just about every demographic where a guy pushes himself onto a girl who is resisting. On several occasions I've seen where somebody actually says "If a girl says no, she means YES! A girl doesn't like guys who give up easy." That kind of mindset can ruin a girls life. That quote is pretty much verbatim for quite a few manga I've read, though I can only recall one offhand (He is a High-School Girl).

Combine all three and you have a perfect storm of ADHD-driven hatred. I avoid commenting on such topics because it brings the worst out in me. I tend to bounce around with topics and generally piss off people who think simple posts should be college-level reports with citations and all that crap. The kind of people who put way too much effort into talking out their ass and thinking they're right because fuck you. I better stop, before I cry a river of salty, angry tears.

*smashes soapbox like an angry child*

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There is nothing right about more than one of these in real life and honestly I want to say it shouldn't be right in mangas but some use it to educate while others...they shamelessly use it as a superficial plot device. In such instances I'd drop in a heartbeat.

Gore, dirty humor, and obscene language are quite the norm these days depending on one's culture and personal preference. There is really nothing wrong except for one's tolerance level.

Political/religious hate, in reality it is one thing but it's not rare for a fictional fantasy manga to employ this plot device.

Sexual objectification, homophobia, and racism here are all social illnesses of the present world. The latter two are rare to see but sexual objectification is one thing that will ever be rid of in manga. Unfortunately one becomes tolerant of it.

Rape, child abuse, and pedophilia are three that are incapable of being weighed differently. These are the worst. Rape kind of goes hand in hand with sexual objectification after all what is rape but an act of objectifying an individual as an object of one's sexual desire. Also crimes and harm against children have been engraved in society as there is nothing worse than the corruption and harm of a child. Although these three are the most offensive, if a mangaka touches on rape/pedophilia/child abuse, they are putting themselves at risk with a touchy subject so I haven't happened upon any such material that employs it without a lens of depth and complexity so far.

Lastly I think the issue of incest is on the basis of culture and socialization Stories that work with incest....the idea of incest versus the actuality of incest are different. I find the former usually draws on sexualization thus creating a superficial story whereas the latter brings out an intriguing story if written well.

Not on the poll but bullying in manga pisses me off. Works by Suenobu Keiko for example really get rough....However it's not a reason why I would drop a manga...

Even if one does not happen by this content, this vote seems to compel to vote based on personal values. However after constructing this post, I realize that mangas I've dropped from being offended has usually been due to intolerance of the gore content (not really out of offense but more out of inability to stomach) and next is probably sexual objectification, adjunct to rape.

Anyway, the poll itself is confusing as others have pointed out. I'm just going leave my vote out

Last edited by mysstris at 1:56 am, Dec 16 2015

You have obviously never looked up the issue.
It is generally agreed, that power is usually the main motivating factor.
Not sexual attraction, or anything like that.

This is not to say that sexual desire never plays a role, of course, but...
Not necessarily.
Even when it does, it is often a relatively minor factor, compared to others.

That works, but I can still imagine a lot of people saying "depends". When you inquire after frequency, you get rid of the whole situational factor.

Everyone's of course entitled to their own personal feelings on what bothers them most, but I do have to wonder about one of the results I'm currently seeing:

What I find to be perplexing is how Sexual Objectification so far has an 8.7% in the poll, compared to that of Racism (3.9%), Homphobia (3.6%), Religious Hate (3.5%) and Any other sort of prejudice (3.4%). Granted, I guess all of those other ones aren't as easily found in most series out there (at least not super obvious hatred toward groups of people), which would also explain why Child abuse of all things is ahead of it by only 1.2% (whereas Pedophilia's predominantly displayed all over the place instead of any series where all-out abuse is going on, hence the 16.7%).
Beyond all that though, what I really don't get is how some people find it more offensive than Sexual Violence and Rape of all things, somehow. I really thought early on that this would receive low votes like that of graphic violence / gore, but apparently not...

Why should rape of adults, be considered to be worse than rape of children?

I read a lot of yaoi and as soon as it's dub-con it's always gross... if it's being played out as a romance abusive relationships should not be set as idealistic.

In general I try to avoid explicit content, depending on my mood. For romances I'm fine with graphic sex, but I can't stand the I love you so I can rape you mentality. If I'm reading a crime series it's expected to have darker themes. So it does depend on the genre.

Maybe, because the choice "Sexual violence/rape" also includes those against children? There is nothing in this part that says it only means against adults.