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Has manga changed your opinion of American Comics?

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I have something real to say before i bugger off, with this week´s comic output:
Putting Vertigo (a DC company) or Image on a "special" pedestal in nonsense, even if it think that The Walking Dead is the best thing that was written in the 21st century (the show is a well produced and barely connected joke). This week´s issue used a 16 panel grid, like DKR, amazing. The whole comic week had multiple 10/10s. Christmas in July!
Suicide Squad Rebirth featured Obama, Guantanamo (so did Green Lanterns) and the protagonists commuting absolutely nihilistic mass murders on the behalf the US government....


What does your post have to do with the Original Post? I fail to see the relevance of your post.

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Thanks, this is very informative. BTW... Is your Username Latin for soul? I'm curious since it looks familiar.

It is the scientific name for the kingdom of animals. I am a huge animal lover. For anything beyond that you would have to google the origin of the word animal.

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Never been a fan of super hero junk. That's essentially all that gets imported from The States, other than Donald Duck. Would need to know more about the rest of the stuff that is made to judge. Though I gotta say that I do think all the DC and Marvel stuff is just utter trash. Just like I think DBZ is garbage. If I want to read something, I'd prefer it to be somewhat weird or obscure with a strange sense of humor. Just stories with heroes and villains aren't all that interesting. I like some stuff from my own country that's made so bad that it is great plus has themes that publishers in US wouldn't easily want to look at.


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There are some non-crappy comics drawn in the USA to be found on the Internet—not as scanlations, but they are released there from the beginning.

Probably some can be found here:

http://topwebcomics.com/

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i can't really say anything about comics because i haven't really read them, and the fact that i got into manga is because that they are easily accessible by means of scanlations

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US comics are way easier to pirate that manga and they have been since the early 00s. The comic-ripping scene makes the PC piracy scene fade by comparison.
A lot of lost and rare comics got preserved too due to that. The effect on the market is still impossible to figure out but sales are on the up. The ripping scene is now run be only a handful of people btw. and it forced the publishers to evolve too.

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He meant Rise and Fall of the Comic Empire but it never "fell". The crash in the 50s was way more severe too. Marvel´s covered output in the 90s was truly problematic though. Bankruptcy, now shambled film rights and all. Image also dropped big but look at them now. Even the also examined Valiant successfully returned in 2012.
DC´s most recent such big stumble was the DC Implosion of the late 70s.

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I think I've simplly grown too old for the traditional American Superhero comic. As a kid I've devoured what was available here - X-Men, Batman, Superman, Justice League, Fantastic Four, etc. (never much liked Spider-Man and the Avengers).

I started reading manga in the early 00s and that just increased over time while my consumption of American comics just grew less and less.
One factor was the "value-for-money ratio". I mean back then a manga volume (tankobon) cost mostly 5€ for ~200 pages while US comics cost 3€ to 5€ for 22 pages. Comics come out monthly, but that's only about 70 pages for 12€ while I still get 200 pages for 5€. It was a big factor for me back then.
The more I read into manga the more diversity showed itself while US Comics are mostly the same (the big 2 at least), no matter whose character's series it is. I grew bored of it.
The "many cooks problem" was another factor. Constant reboots, retcons, and wonky continuity another. A proper storyline (especially keeping them to a single comic series) seems impossible for the big publishers. As a story-oriented, not art-oriented reader this kills my interest really fast.

I mostly stopped reading US comics about five years ago. I'm still reading some that really interest me, mostly Image now that I think about it - series like The Wicked + The Divine, Sunstone, the upcoming Kill 6 Billion Demons (really rad webcomic), etc. They make good trade paperbacks that fit nicely into my shelf. Dynamite & Boom Studios also have some interesting output.
The only 'superhero' comic I still read is Astro City, and I've been doing that for more than 10 years now. That seems to satisfy my craving for monthly superheroics.

I tried my hand at the "New 52" stuff from DC but found it to be mostly bland. Now there was another line-wide reboot - just a few years after the last (do these things come faster?) - and I won't be touching any of that stuff with a ten-foot pole.
Marvel also had some new stuff. I tried Ms. Marvel and read for a while, but my interest dropped off eventually. Gwenpool manages to still amuse me though, let's see how long that lasts.

In conclusion: Yes. After I started reading manga my opinion of US Comics changed slowly, to the point that I have stopped reading much of them by now.

That turned out longer than I thought it would. Rant over, I guess?

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Not really. I probably wouldn't even read manga if it wasn't the only thing I use my Japanese for. What am I a neeeeeeeeeerd?

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