if you have read both, they are similar (because the two manga authors are twins, which they say twins tend to think alike, and even the naruto mangaka said that his brother didnt copy him):

666 satan

1. main character jio has a demon inside him, and more importantly its the strongest demon (like naruto's 9 tails)

2. both characters jio and naruto have sad back grounds, and love their friends to the point they sacrafice themselves

3. both are unstoppable in demon form unless someone (ruby from satan, sasuke/sakura from naruto) stops them with funny feelings...

but personally i think 666satan is better, why?

i love the character drawings, and the plot. even though they are ALMOST the same, they still look great. 666satan is my preference. also 666satan has some other genres than just plain action, romance is one, almost forbidden. also satan sounds more evil than a 9 tailed fox

also compare

jio from 666satan
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6c/Jio%28666Satan%29 .jpg

naruto from naruto
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/00/NarutoUzumaki_Ship puden.png

who looks more bad ass? also look at their demon forms

jio
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/minaa333/41.jpg

naruto
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8a/Kyuubi-Naruto4attack .png

although jio demon form looks like a monster from those sick hentai anime... he still looks bad ass..

if you read both which one you like? even though most people think this is overrated. i enjoy it.


Last edited by Emperorpogi at 1:36 pm, Apr 2 2007

Meh, i reckon it depends on the person reading it. Sure they may have the same themes, but it can be worse...some mangas LOOK the same. For example One Piece and Fairy Tail, the main characters...look almost EXACTLY the same!

Anyways for the question of who looks more bad ass: The Kyuubi
Why? Its just as you said, Jio's demon form looks like those monsters from hentai >_< and also that the Kyuubi is way more bigger >_>

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actually they are about the same. jio is small when satan takes over his body.

if you see the real pics of satans true masterful form... hes gigantic..

i'd post pics of the two beast, but im too lazy to look for them and upload

but you've got to admit jio does look cooler than naruto but i gotta say(this part may be biased since i haven't really read much of 666 Satan) that i still like naruto better.

the mangakas are brothers like you said, and grew up drawing together and had the same influences

i think its kinda cool how theyre so much alike

Not seeing it. 666 Satan is a pretty blatant and bland rip-off of Naruto. Nevermind that some people desperately try in vain to explain away the million plot similarities that exist because they are brothers but I completely lost all respect for 666 when it ripped off the time skip. To compare them and say it was done better in 666 is stretching...Naruto's story had come to an end after almost 30 volumes but with this book we're barely up to 16 chapters and the story was at a point to where a time-skip was needed. Let's not forget that Naruto's story has evolved from ninja's in training to betrayal, destiny, revenge and now we have Naruto's fight for independence against Akatsuki similar to Sasuke..with 666 we now have an organization after Jio? come on..this is a rip off.

Most funny is that o_parts Hunter is in no way getting big in the US while Naruto has become a phenomenon here and now Latin America.

um, naruto ripping off of 666? it seems more like the other way around....
the time gap was done way better in 666 than in naruto, why? cause naruto did jack squat during that time gap while in 666 everyone improved.
666 had the monster collection group set up pretty much from the get go, while naruto had the monster collection group inserted in after a good set of volumes.
Naruto's story has went from ninjas to now just Sasuke, the whole series should be renamed Sasuke or Uchiha instead. Naruto's been doing jack squat for the longest time and the new technique he acquired in 3 days he can't even use again, what is that?!
666 has better character development than naruto, which is sucking majorly in the recently chapters. Heck, it's been more about everyone BUT naruto in the past 30ish chapters. Naruto's going nowhere in the story except just killing off random people now, nothing's been planned before hand and everything's just being dropped in.
naruto's being stupidly rushed in the story, it doesn't even flow well anymore.
666 on the other hand, has a way better and coherent flow in the story than naruto.

btw, they've been drawing together since they were kids, so they think up pretty much the same things and draw the same too. they both know that their works might be similar but really don't give a crap about it

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666 Satan is crap. Ok so i've finally read 666 satan and it's not the fact that the story seems like a rip off of Naruto that made me hate it (i would still read it if this was my only problem with it), but it's the fact that the characters really piss me off. It's really hard to explain but after reading naruto and the reading this piece of crap I really get the feeling that the author of naruto really did a better job explaining what motivates the characters and why they are the way they are. Don't get me wrong the author of 666 Satan did that too but i find his work to be not as good. A thing i find wrong this is that the author rushed too much in introducing Satan i mean he could have at least have jio actually fight on his own before needing to have satan come out and kick ass. I'm sorry but i find jio's whole take over the world dream incredibly lame. What i'm trying to say is that this story is a bit too cliché,(yeah i get that this is a shonen series we're talking about and face it, they're hardly original but come on). i guess what i'm really trying to say is that the author of 666 Satan really doesn't know how to tell a story. I can't think of much to say right now but i'll post again if i remember something.

ok guys, here's the thing. i like them both, if i had to pick i'd pick naruto, cause i've been reading it longer, but that's beside the point. neither of the stories are terrible, and neither is a copy of the other. yes they both have similarities, but so do most good stories. I refuse to accept that either author "just drops stuff in at random" neither one of them would have done very well if they had. for the most part, authors know the entire story before any of it ever makes it to paper, i assume it's the same with mangaka. this means that neither is "ripping" off the other, they just had similar ideas for a story. Both stories flow, some parts are just faster than others. trust me, i'm current with both series, having read chapter 38 of 666 and 352 of naruto, and i just can't see the rip off.
yes things are similar, and yes the art is pretty much the same, that doesn't make either one bad. besides, there are several big differences: jio doesn't live in a town, he travels around and makes friends as he goes, naruto has always had the people he makes friends with (that remain in the storyline for long periods of time) around him in the village where he lives. Naruto also didn't kill his own parents and doesn't kill everyone close to him like Jio did. Also other people (like all the adults in konoha) already know what naruto is and that's where the hatred for him comes from, not from anything he may have done subconciously. Jio on the other hand is constantly travelling to get away from people who hate him because he did something he didn't even know he did. this makes their back stories incredibly different since to Jio, he has no one in the world, everywhere he goes people hate him for seemingly no reason. Where as with naruto he knows why people dislike him from the start of the series and he lives with it for a long time in the same place.
concerning the time skip, yes it may have been necessary in 666, but where else was naruto gonna go? it was necessary for both and 666's storyline has changed quite dramatically also. just because it did so in a shorter number of volumes doesn't make it any less significant. Ruby found out her dad isn't her dad, serval people have discovered that they're angels, and by now several people have been released, or released the demons controling them (like kite's sister and kujaku).
666 is also more of a scifi/adventure with some hints at romance, where as naruto is more straight forward adventure. and while you could say that naruto and jio are similar in that they both have demons, they are completely different in usage, why they have them, and how they got them.
just as a side note, jio and naruto in human form don't look that similar, however, the younger jio and konohamaru (the third hokage's grandson) are very similar in both the way they look and their clothing (both have long scarfs and simlar shirts ect.)

What she said^^ Yep I think there are many differences in the storyline. You can't really say one copied off the other. They're twins, I have cousins who are twins they share everything. So if their work is similar that's the reason. Okay now is 666 Satan good. Yes in terms of shounen it's a pretty good story and has some great characters as well (just cause they're not like the characters in naruto you hate them- I don't get it you criticize seishi for copying his brother then you attack his work because the characters are different) Why is it that this world is filled with mindless human garbage(reffering to noone in specific)? Actually try thinking about it deeply before you call the work plagarism. Idiots. Imo the story is more mature than naruto and actually isn't as cliche(who wastes time going into character map to type cliche?) as most shounen in that there are bits of romance and other themes you will not find in the average shounen. Leave Kishimoto's work alone stop reading it and go learn to draw your own manga and see the garbage you'd come up with. Otherwise don't complain just don't read it if you hate it that much.

Come on bring on all the flames you want. I'm thoroughly sick of people attacking this manga and am ready to take on all comers. Bring it on.

The above post was comically hateful and the parties involved can't remember what was written so they are not liable for any damages.

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You know what's even funnier? The fact that Naruto is probably one of the most unoriginal series I have ever seen in my life. You want to talk about rip offs, then Naruto is definitely one of the biggest. It completely rips off HunterxHunter (which came first). Kurapica and Sasuke are almost exactly the same personality-wise and past-wise (except that Kurapica is way cooler and much more realistic). Masashi Kishimoto even has Kakashi almost exactly quote one of the characters from HxH just before Sasuke leaves Konoha. Both Kurapica and Sasuke are from a clan known for their red eyes, and both of their clans were completely wiped out, so both characters are basically living their lives for the sake of revenge and blah blah.

Gon and Naruto have very similar personalities. They are both really strong, always manage to win battles, and have the uncanny ability to make practically everyone they meet like them. Once again, though, the HxH character is better and much more realistic.

Also, if you want to get into the whole "organization" crap, the Akatsuki from Naruto are almost exactly like the Ryodan from HxH.

So quit pulling your bull about how Seishi copied off of poor little Masashi, because he isn't as great as you think. Oh, and give up on the time jump argument. Oh my gosh! Both series have a time jump! *gasp* It must be copying! I shall never read it! *rolls eyes* Maybe next time, you should do some research.

you win
thats why hxh better than naruto

To be fair.. Pretty much all main characters(and non-main too) in a lot of manga have had sad backgrounds and would sacrifice themselves for their nakama..

Jio does look a lot cooler than Naruto before, and after, the time skip..

I had to check if fairy tail was from the same mangaka after I read the first chapter or two.. So much is crazy similar.. I wonder why Hitomi no Catoblepas was criticized so much and not Fairy Tail..
To be honest.. I didn't notice any copying in Hitomi no Catoblepas and I don't think of myself as a dense person..

Win what?? Is there a prize I'm not aware of?? HxH is far from better than naruto--I think sales and international acclaim dictate that. If HxH was popular and Naruto wasn't..I guarantee that the vast majority of the Naruto hater crowd would be singing the praises of naruto and hating on HxH. I mean really...this hatred of Naruto has the most obvious sense of hurt pride amongst a marginalized group that I've ever seen. It's like black on black crime when a brother becomes successful but lives in the ghetto .Naruto becomes popular for reasons dealing with great storytelling, good artwork and this may sound crazy to the seen it all know it all manga crowd but originiality. I mean really how many YA books were there before Harry Potter that featured magicians--and yet Harry Potter is still a master of the form. Naruto is original and a masterpiece even if it uses manga staples. I've not been on in awhile so I missed this whole response from Tim whatever his name is but you're talking crazy. HxH is oooooooooooooookay. I personally think the art sucks and the story is haphazard (I'm talking story..I could go on about this lunatic's inability to meet deadlines, desire to re-draw art and likewise, the fact that Yu yu hakusho sucks balls). While I will not argue that HxH is not original (it certainly is) to criticize Naruto who clearly identified a legion of characters within Konoha, actually has betrayal, death and destiny and a novel time skip (O-Parts ripped it off..come on!! R u seriously going to argue this That's just blindness. Why did it need a time skip??)

I think what's more fascinating than anything about O-parts is not the obvious rip off but the damn near lunatic explanations from naruto haters. How in the hell does anyone look at the piss poor character designs of O-parts (I mean good lord...they look like patch work of ideas rather than concentrated character designs), the beast within a boy, disenfranchised youth, time skip, use of violence with no consequences. I'm done...haters abound and you can't stop a deluded person from hurting themselves. The newest arc in Naruto is brilliant..if you all are man enough..check it out (I'm sure you already have and are salivating on each chapter each week before returning to hate on it like a lover spurned).

O-Parts hopefully gets better. The religious aspect is ridiculous (how does it exist with so many different gods on same word..was the world made in god's image? what's up with satan then) but I'll give it to Kishimoto..since his brother defined the demon deity world of Naruto ---seishi needed something..so he went with real world deity's. Lord knows..I hope you all enjoy this to eventual conclusion...long before naruto ends.

Last edited by Daedalus at 7:41 pm, Nov 12 2007

Dawhatever you missed the point
i am talking about their personalaties and relationships with other beings