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Their is no way the little Ren is not Reira's child. He looks just like her. At first glance it looked like to me it was Shin and Reira's child, but idk if that's possible. Or is it?
Now I think he's Takumi and Reira's child. Thats the only explination I could come up with of why Takumi is in England with lil Ren and Reira.
That's not always true. Reira has always had a one sided love for Takumi and to keep her singing for Trapnest he sleeps with her (apparently several times). But he has told her time and time again that he doesn't love her in a romantic sense. This could be why she said she should have hated Takumi for doing that with her if he didn't love her, then getting her pregnant with Lil Ren (because he has done this to several women. Apparently he doesn't know about condoms
). Nobu must be sad because he caries the same name as Ren who wanted to teach Hatchi's child to play guitar. He also said that he wanted to in his place (that scene made me cry).
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I think that Hachi is pregnant with twins, even though Ren looks a slight bit older. I dunno, it's just what I've been thinking the entire time.
And Ren is Nobu's son and Satsuki is Takumi's daughter.
It's possible, it has happened before that a woman had twins from two different men.
I never thought of that but it would be pretty interesting.
Yeah that could be possible and pretty interesting but then the question would be....why would Takumi keep Nobu's son with him and leave his biological daughter with Hachi? I don't think it would be as simple as Satsuki's too energetic for him or that since he's a guy, he would want to take the son and leave the daughter for the mother to raise.
I get the feeling Ren is Reira's son (and Takumi's). Satsuki is definitely Hachi's and Takumi's daughter, and Ren looks slightly younger than her. Maybe that's why he's living with Takumi and why Satsuki calls him "brother", since they are both Takumi's kids.
I don't think they're twins, since all the times Hachi went to the doctor, she said "the baby". Plus, there's an image of an ultrasound scanning where it can be clearly seen that there's only one baby.
So why does Reira say she should have hated little Ren If it's her own child
(Chapter 74 page 16) Shouldn't a child between Reira and Takumi bring them closer? Why does little Ren call Reira by her name instead of mommy? (Chapter 74 p.13) Why does little Ren look so much like Nobu? Why is Nobu's expression appear sad when talking about little Ren staying with Takumi in England? He worries whether little Ren is still playing the guitar. (Chapter 66 pages 16-17)
It's so confusing!
Okay...If we base it solely on little Ren's feature's, he could pass as kid to over half the main character's in Nana. So I don't know about him being Reira's kid based on looks...even still, I think he looks more like Nobu.
There is even a question of why little Ren isn't in school. It was implied that little Ren was not living with Takumi but decided to stay when he visited recently on a break from school in JAPAN. That could only mean that he resided with his mother, HACHI, and she seems heartbroken because of this. Why does Ren not want to return to Japan? I couldn't tell you, but it seems to me that he is upset with Hachi about something. She even thought he sent her the pictures of Nana (I think). She worries about him as a mother worries about her child that is far away from her.
About living arrangements in England, it is not really implied that Reira lives in the same household as Takumi and little Ren. Why does father and son wake up in the same bed without Reira? IDK, maybe I'm looking into that too much. And why would Naoki even suggest trying to get Hachi back with Takumi if he was living with Reira...uh...that definitely wouldn't work out would it? Takumi's place even looks like just a bachelor's pad. Why does he reside in England? IDK, Takumi left Japan for the sake of 'work'. Maybe he thought Reira would recover if they moved there but not actually staying in the same place.
Reira says she should hate everything that Takumi LOVES, including his son. There have been many cases in real-life situations where a child from one woman is envied by another woman, just because the father (the man she loves) shows that child the affection/attention she longs for. Is this the case with Reira and Ren? Again, IDK...maybe when Ren was due (as firstborn) Takumi ditched Reira to be at Hachi's side. In the most recent chapters, Takumi is still at Reira's side, and it is getting closer and closer to the birth of the baby. I'm hoping Nobu will check Takumi over the phone as Takumi did him (when they first found out Hachi was pregnant) to make this happen.
Now if this is all true, how and when is Satsuki born? And is she older than Ren? IDK, but knowing Takumi, he probably disregarded the 6 wks Hachi would need to recover after having a baby (look it up for all those that did not know this) and had sex with her, therefore conceiving Satsuki right after Ren was born. This could be why it is so difficult to say, just by looking, which child is older.
At any rate, the relationship that I have seen so far between Takumi, Hachi, little Ren, and Satsuki makes me believe that they all have lived together in the same house, as a family, for some time before they seperated. All these things are just my opinion. Whenever the story nears an end, everything will be brought to light...
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