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New Poll - Hating Art
This week's poll is from our member 007demosthenes. When you dislike a manga for its art, what are you most nitpicky about? And for once, there's an "Other" option. Post a comment if your choice isn't in that list!
You can submit poll ideas here (and try to keep them manga/anime-related)
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903
Previous Poll Results:
Question: Favorite type of character?
Choices:
The cool & handsome / beautiful one - votes: 788 (6.8%)
The quiet, stoic, and good-looking one - votes: 2460 (21.2%)
The noisy, stubborn, & hot-headed one - votes: 689 (5.9%)
The horrible, mean, & bad attitude one - votes: 388 (3.3%)
The helpful, kind, & cool one - votes: 992 (8.6%)
The robot / artificial intelligence - votes: 240 (2.1%)
The dense / air-headed genius type - votes: 935 (8.1%)
The 'always happy' character - votes: 372 (3.2%)
The handsome / beautiful sadist - votes: 1267 (10.9%)
The ugly character - votes: 101 (0.9%)
The sensitive but melancholic one - votes: 413 (3.6%)
The submissive, bumbling, and puppy-dog one - votes: 213 (1.8%)
The secretive enigma - votes: 962 (8.3%)
The clumsy fool - votes: 234 (2%)
The scheming plotter - votes: 1542 (13.3%)
There were 11596 total votes.
The poll ended: September 14th 2013
Did the quiet, the stoic, or the good-looking part win? Probably the last one... Reminds me of the character type of "tall, dark, and handsome" in literature.
You can submit poll ideas here (and try to keep them manga/anime-related)
http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903
Previous Poll Results:
Question: Favorite type of character?
Choices:
The cool & handsome / beautiful one - votes: 788 (6.8%)
The quiet, stoic, and good-looking one - votes: 2460 (21.2%)
The noisy, stubborn, & hot-headed one - votes: 689 (5.9%)
The horrible, mean, & bad attitude one - votes: 388 (3.3%)
The helpful, kind, & cool one - votes: 992 (8.6%)
The robot / artificial intelligence - votes: 240 (2.1%)
The dense / air-headed genius type - votes: 935 (8.1%)
The 'always happy' character - votes: 372 (3.2%)
The handsome / beautiful sadist - votes: 1267 (10.9%)
The ugly character - votes: 101 (0.9%)
The sensitive but melancholic one - votes: 413 (3.6%)
The submissive, bumbling, and puppy-dog one - votes: 213 (1.8%)
The secretive enigma - votes: 962 (8.3%)
The clumsy fool - votes: 234 (2%)
The scheming plotter - votes: 1542 (13.3%)
There were 11596 total votes.
The poll ended: September 14th 2013
Did the quiet, the stoic, or the good-looking part win? Probably the last one... Reminds me of the character type of "tall, dark, and handsome" in literature.
Comments (limited to first 100 replies)
» deadphoenix on September 14th, 2013, 2:07am
Where is the option: Unfinished art?
What would be the best to put the art of Hunter X Hunter under?
Good story but horrible art.
What would be the best to put the art of Hunter X Hunter under?
Good story but horrible art.
» quark1020 on September 14th, 2013, 10:46am
That depends on whether you consider "unfinished art" as a style or not.
» FantasySerenity on September 14th, 2013, 2:50am
What bugs me most is when they add chibi characters for no reason. -_-
Looking at you Goong!
Or the manga that makes all the girls look about 12. That annoys the hell out of me.
Looking at you Goong!
Or the manga that makes all the girls look about 12. That annoys the hell out of me.
» mysstris on September 15th, 2013, 1:11am
Ohhhh yeah, I get what you mean.
That's one thing that annoys me about the manhwaga for Goong in general. It serves as comic relief but frankly it's just such a far stretch from how beautiful the manhwaga can draw.
As for the young-in look, I can sympathize with how you feel about that.
That's one thing that annoys me about the manhwaga for Goong in general. It serves as comic relief but frankly it's just such a far stretch from how beautiful the manhwaga can draw.
As for the young-in look, I can sympathize with how you feel about that.
» tactics on September 14th, 2013, 3:09am
Certain styles bug me. It's usually why I avoid shoujo and josei. Having said that I have found a few that I don't mind, but the majority of them I don't like.
» Sakuya on September 14th, 2013, 3:19am
"All characters look the same" & "Certain art styles" top my list but I went with "all characters look the same".
Kind of hard to follow the plot if you can't differentiate between the characters.
Kind of hard to follow the plot if you can't differentiate between the characters.
» Cainam on September 14th, 2013, 5:31am
All characters look the same (or generic) make it hard to distinguish and people can easily misinterpret the story.
» Mizura on September 14th, 2013, 6:48am
Huh. I would have listed a different set of options:
- Exaggerated shoujo styles (huge eyes, skinny limbs)
- Exaggerated shounen styles (muscles everywhere)
- Poorly-drawn anatomy not due to style
- Generic-looking characters
- bland facial expressions
- Poorly-drawn or non-existing background
- Poorly-drawn action scenes
- Excessive fanservice (huge breasts, revealing outfits, etc.)
- Unrefined/unfinished-looking artstyle (squiggly lines, Hunter x Hunter etc.)
And to incorporate the above:
- Random chibis everywhere
- All the characters look too young
It'd be very hard to choose from just one, though. lol.
- Exaggerated shoujo styles (huge eyes, skinny limbs)
- Exaggerated shounen styles (muscles everywhere)
- Poorly-drawn anatomy not due to style
- Generic-looking characters
- bland facial expressions
- Poorly-drawn or non-existing background
- Poorly-drawn action scenes
- Excessive fanservice (huge breasts, revealing outfits, etc.)
- Unrefined/unfinished-looking artstyle (squiggly lines, Hunter x Hunter etc.)
And to incorporate the above:
- Random chibis everywhere
- All the characters look too young
It'd be very hard to choose from just one, though. lol.
» pyonk on September 14th, 2013, 7:33am
- Unrealistic expression
- Unrealistic boobs size (in action/adventure shonen manga).
- Unrealistic boobs size (in action/adventure shonen manga).
» mizaki2100 on September 14th, 2013, 10:54am
Quote from pyonk
- Unrealistic boobs size (in action/adventure shonen manga).
(Why I rarely read shounen) Since this is not one of the choices, I picked excessively big eyes.
» lambchopsil on September 14th, 2013, 11:26am
Hmm, should've thought of that one... too late, I guess!
» Mierten on September 14th, 2013, 7:40am
With "hating the artwork," one of the best compliments for a series is that even when it is a style of artwork that you hate, you still really like the series.
I do like how there is so much variety in styles of art.
I do like how there is so much variety in styles of art.
» Damnedman on September 14th, 2013, 7:42am
No options for special effects overuse or would that go into certain styles of art? I freaking hate it when a series overuses glitters and flowers.
» quark1020 on September 14th, 2013, 10:51am
It was a tough choice between scraggly lines and certain manga art styles. While I think story is more important than the overall art, if it doesn't visually appeal to me, I will likely not read it.
» Dionaea on September 14th, 2013, 11:19am
The eyes, hands down. The rest of the art can be gorgeous, if the eyes are pinpricks or cover half the face I move on instantly. I just can't stand it, badly drawn faces are a close number 2, but I can stand those if the story is good. Don't get me wrong, I'm fine with a large range of eyesizes, but if it just gets ridiculously small or large I won't even try to read.
» connerity on September 14th, 2013, 11:38am
I REALLY REALLY hate shoujo art style.
The story can be insanely good, but as soon as extremely huge, glossy eyes, background flowers, skinny limbs, etc appear, I will be strongly repulsed by it and instantly drop it.
It goes so far that I don't even look into a series that has traces of shoujo art on the cover image.
The story can be insanely good, but as soon as extremely huge, glossy eyes, background flowers, skinny limbs, etc appear, I will be strongly repulsed by it and instantly drop it.
It goes so far that I don't even look into a series that has traces of shoujo art on the cover image.
» SinsI on September 14th, 2013, 12:02pm
In my case, "All the characters look the same/generic" and "hate certain styles of manga art" means exactly the same thing.
» Highway-STAR on September 14th, 2013, 1:12pm
Quote from SinsI
In my case, "All the characters look the same/generic" and "hate certain styles of manga art" means exactly the same thing.
I had the same thought. I hate most modern manga art as it's all generic house-style mush.
» sarah-eats-cupcakes on September 16th, 2013, 1:21pm
Quote from Highway-STAR
I hate most modern manga art as it's all generic house-style mush.
agreed. older art was much more elegant, expressive and versatile than modern art. it seems that the majority of seinen manga and most manga published before 2000 have more realism in terms of body proportions, shading and faces than modern shoujo, josei and shounen art, but anyway art doesn't really bother me, at least not enough to drop a manga.
» anonymous18 on September 14th, 2013, 12:13pm
"All the characters look the same/generic" . i mean how the hell I'm going to keep up with the plot, or even enjoy reading the manga if i can't differentiate between the characters !! It is very annoying ! 
» chrum on September 14th, 2013, 1:59pm
Characters that are hard to distinct are a problem, but the worst thing for me is sometimes the style itself - I'm not really bothered when the bodies don't hold onto proportions (up to a certain point) but some styles drive me crazy - Clamp being the main example. Triangular chins, angular eyes and roses, feathers and the uniforms... That's too much.
» lynira on September 14th, 2013, 2:32pm
I have a lot of things that I consider to be drawing flaws, but I'd say most of them tend to be about faces. Facial features are a really big deal to me, but I think even worse than badly drawn facial features is when the shape itself of the face is bad. The thing that bothers me the most is when the side (one or both) of the face is drawn too straight, giving the face an unsightly triangular shape that I can't stand to look at (like this). It's often paired with an elongated face and a dumb-looking pointy chin, which makes the problem stand out even more (like this and this). This kind of face shape bothers me so much that I could never stand to read any manga featuring faces drawn that way.
» SilverStorm on September 14th, 2013, 9:22pm
I was going through the list and I was surprised to find myself not really minding most of them, at least, by themselves. I like pretty artwork, but "ugly art" isn't a deal breaker per say.
I ended up choosing "certain styles," since that's the closest. I don't like art that's too busy or overdone. I get annoyed with certain of shonen mangas where I can't tell what I'm looking at. Too many action lines, muscle to muscle drawings etc.
For instance, I hear that A Fairytale for the Demon Lord has a pretty good story, and I wouldn't say it has ugly art, far from it, but I don't like having to guess what's a face and what's a hat, stuff like that.
It could be argued that shoujo manga is quite busy with all the flowers and everything, but most of the time, I can tell the character's expressions and what they're doing. (For me, the flowers and sparkles don't interfere with the characters.)
While this is minor, I don't like ridiculously sized boobs. It's normally indicative of the kind of plot that's encountered. Being female, the cliched fan servicing is rather annoying and IMO, drags down the plot.
I ended up choosing "certain styles," since that's the closest. I don't like art that's too busy or overdone. I get annoyed with certain of shonen mangas where I can't tell what I'm looking at. Too many action lines, muscle to muscle drawings etc.
For instance, I hear that A Fairytale for the Demon Lord has a pretty good story, and I wouldn't say it has ugly art, far from it, but I don't like having to guess what's a face and what's a hat, stuff like that.
It could be argued that shoujo manga is quite busy with all the flowers and everything, but most of the time, I can tell the character's expressions and what they're doing. (For me, the flowers and sparkles don't interfere with the characters.)
While this is minor, I don't like ridiculously sized boobs. It's normally indicative of the kind of plot that's encountered. Being female, the cliched fan servicing is rather annoying and IMO, drags down the plot.
» arouraleona on September 14th, 2013, 11:13pm
"What do you like most?" should be a question, because I can think of a few strong answers to that one. It doesn't bother me if the clothes are simple, for example, but if the clothes are super detailed (like in Akagami no Shirayukihime) I get really excited. I'm not very fashionable with accessories or complex clothing, so maybe that's why I like seeing it so much in manga!
I went for Disproportionate body parts (big ((GIANT)) boobs, tiny waist), but it was a toss up between that and scraggly lines.
I went for Disproportionate body parts (big ((GIANT)) boobs, tiny waist), but it was a toss up between that and scraggly lines.
» kaloo on September 14th, 2013, 11:57pm
The tiny heads really bother me and it's what I voted, but... Maybe it's a holdover from when I was a scanlator and they annoyed me to no end. Those damn shojo sparkles.
» mysstris on September 15th, 2013, 1:08am
Eyes too big are annoying in shoujo mangas. You have shoujo eyes and you have obnoxiously huge eyes like that of powerpuff girls' compared to the rest of the face.
But I suppose all characters looking the same is annoying--I haven't run into that problem so often though.
But in general, I don't have much of a problem with art as long as the story can make up for it-the better the story, the less I care for the art. But depending on the story, the art that appears bad can make for an intense mood matching the storyline.
But I suppose all characters looking the same is annoying--I haven't run into that problem so often though.
But in general, I don't have much of a problem with art as long as the story can make up for it-the better the story, the less I care for the art. But depending on the story, the art that appears bad can make for an intense mood matching the storyline.
» xxmichellexx27f on September 15th, 2013, 1:45am
Don't judge a book by it's cover, I know that. but there's some certain types of art that is actually good, didn't bother me or anything, but always fail to attract me, and I rather hate those. not because of the art, but the plot (different authors), they just strangely have the same art characteristics.
It could just be me denying to be swayed by the art, but I believe the story sucks, no matter how many times I read it.
It could just be me denying to be swayed by the art, but I believe the story sucks, no matter how many times I read it.
» arouraleona on September 15th, 2013, 3:09am
It's understandable that the art has some affect. These are comics, so the images are half the experience.
» That3rdGuy on September 15th, 2013, 6:05am
The art of hating!
I remember there was this guy who lived next to me and made a LOT of money selling marijuana. While he caused no problems (in fact, much of the profit went towards the community and I lived in a legal state), I still told the police when he got a new supply because I hated the fact he made so much more money than I. The DEA took his legal marijuana and his expensive growing supplies with no reimbursement.
Hate! Hate! Hate!
There was this girl I considered as my muse down the road who who recently got a boyfriend. She was Caucasian and he was African. Since I only wanted her for myself (but only at a distance), I signed her up for KKK and Aryan Brotherhood and bought racist literature to be sent to her address. After several Klan rallies and books degrading other races, he finally came to the conclusion that she was a bigot and left her.
Hate! Hate! Hate!
Seriously, though... I'd probably have to say I hate the extremely large eyes overall. I do hate how many characters look the same as well, besides a slightly different hairstyle and color, but the eyes bug me the most. I like Furuya Minoru's work specifically because of the more realistic way he draws faces. I like accuracy. And hating.
I remember there was this guy who lived next to me and made a LOT of money selling marijuana. While he caused no problems (in fact, much of the profit went towards the community and I lived in a legal state), I still told the police when he got a new supply because I hated the fact he made so much more money than I. The DEA took his legal marijuana and his expensive growing supplies with no reimbursement.
Hate! Hate! Hate!
There was this girl I considered as my muse down the road who who recently got a boyfriend. She was Caucasian and he was African. Since I only wanted her for myself (but only at a distance), I signed her up for KKK and Aryan Brotherhood and bought racist literature to be sent to her address. After several Klan rallies and books degrading other races, he finally came to the conclusion that she was a bigot and left her.
Hate! Hate! Hate!
Seriously, though... I'd probably have to say I hate the extremely large eyes overall. I do hate how many characters look the same as well, besides a slightly different hairstyle and color, but the eyes bug me the most. I like Furuya Minoru's work specifically because of the more realistic way he draws faces. I like accuracy. And hating.
» Accipiter on September 16th, 2013, 7:23am
The creepy mouths in Shoujo. *shudder*
» nightazday on September 16th, 2013, 9:09am
Shoujo art style is usually unappealing to me. Some shoujo manga tends to have art well enough for me to enjoy, but some has really unappealing style to it.
and don't get me started on yaoi/shounen-ai. being a heterosexual guy, it's not really for me anyway, but I would definitely read more if the artwork didn't turn me off as much.
and don't get me started on yaoi/shounen-ai. being a heterosexual guy, it's not really for me anyway, but I would definitely read more if the artwork didn't turn me off as much.
» Ascension on September 17th, 2013, 5:04pm
Should've added a "don't care about art that much" option. because for me and other people if the story is good, i don't really care about the art at all. If the story is meh, then art doesn't really matter either >_> (the "Nothing bothers me" option is not really a good choice of words)
Also there's a lot of mangas that have bad art especially to help the story, and because of it it's funny, even though there's a lot of the stuff that bothers people usually(big head, disproportionate limbs, weird expresions), for exemple the author of Ningen Kyouki Katsuo, HAMORI Takashi has that kind of art specifically. And you can't say you hate the expresions/disproportionate limbs/big head etc, in 1 manga, and like it in another in this poll.
http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=662
Also there's a lot of mangas that have bad art especially to help the story, and because of it it's funny, even though there's a lot of the stuff that bothers people usually(big head, disproportionate limbs, weird expresions), for exemple the author of Ningen Kyouki Katsuo, HAMORI Takashi has that kind of art specifically. And you can't say you hate the expresions/disproportionate limbs/big head etc, in 1 manga, and like it in another in this poll.
http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=662
