Hmm, I guess maybe I should PM Manick to look at this page since some dicussion on improving the site is here, and I know that I've had suggestions on my mind and yet even though I'm reminded about what I want to recommend each time.

Oh yeah, long post ahead...


I think it's got to be people are lazy. IMDB has lots, and lots of members. I don't know how many people vote but I think the number is low. I don't think I've voted on any or at least 99.99% of the titles that I have on My Movie list. :x I think this might be due somewhat to the real-life North American voting mentality--"why does my vote matter". xD :x And somehow, I guess I hesitate to put a number/rating on the manga I read. I can't immediately pick a rating once I'm finished a manga because I think it takes a while for the ending to sink in. And if the ending isn't enough for me, that's even more true. I can re-rate but...I guess that comes down to being a chicken and I don't like giving an unfair rating even if it's only temporary. And there's some laziness in there too. This would go into a "why don't you rate manga you read?" topic if it existed. And maybe the sad part of that topic would be that people would spend more time making excuses rather than rate their manga. But Then again, I guess I sort of remember about how *I* mentally rated most manga I read provided the manga wasn't completely unforgotteable.

AMV.org ended up putting quick comments in for when people download an AMV the person has to leave some kind of comment. It's not as good as a long review and there's some "fluff" comments (comments like "I stole your soul", although those might have been jokes between friends on the site). Maybe as much as I might not like it myself, if we mark a manga as "complete" on our manga lists, we have to rate it to put it on the Complete List. It's payment for having your lists on the site! >D It would be even more work for a person building up his or her manga lists from nothing but... *rubs hands evilly*

I sort of wish I could just throw the database part of Manga-Updates into Google and just look for manga that I want. But I think looking for manga with the mention of "model" in their summary is like using Google Images. I don't know why Google isn't better at searching Manga-Updates even though I think the site is 1 or 2 years old? There are probably a fair amount of manga series entries that would be around that time due to the administrators adding a good amount of them (I think lambchopsil, Manick, mallow(sp? Gomen if I did x[) added about a 1000 series). But I wonder if all the minor updating of the pages affects whether Google searches the page. Or maybe Google likes ignoring us because they would rather have their search engine sort Wikipedia.

If we keep dicussion this way though, either a new topic has to be started or one of the currents have to be picked for dicussion to "move" to.

[quote=luisalirio84]...(the quote function wouldn't work for his name here ...I couldn't even apply italics to the text...?! O_o)
B-b-b-b-ut... Life is no fun without a little flame every now and then. Soo boring. Fine . I apologize to you sincerely mr. rillel [/quote]
Even if that comment about the flaming was a joke luisalirio, I remember when Kaioh made comments about your post count in the Manga-Updates facts and I can't help but think along with your reply in that thread, you also used about half or more of one of your posts in the Your Age (not a repeat topic) thread (which I know I hold a bit of bitterness about) venting about it.

I also feel you're also using rillel's or this thread as a scrapegoat for your anger about the recommendation manga threads. I'm sure if this had been the 5th recommendation instead of closer to the 20th of its kind, I would hope you wouldn't be as hard on this guy. Since you're saying to wait for the recommendation feature to come into place, aren't you indirectly complaining about Manick to hurry up with it, since (I believe) he's building it? Besides, we don't know how "soon" (or when) it will come out (I'm not saying for Manick to hurry up. I don't expect the recommendation feature to fix all the "recommending" problems).

Edit:

If it was the part of "thanks for the flaming/help" well, I don't consider it any worse that you calling him "annoying" and yet I know that to you're not always a picnic in the park, luisalirio.


If you want a thread locked, if might be better to PM an admin if you think it was pressing (I think it's fair that along with lambchopsil's statement about Manick that the admin doesn't read every post or pick the posts apart in their daily routines). But I think the admins give us some freedom sometimes for things to recover even things get heated (I think there's proof in the first part of this thread) or decided it's still relevant or the thread is redeemable sometimes.

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Hmm if you can't help your self yet go read initial d and golden boy .. also samurai champloo manga..it's funny


@Dear Takiko Hmm you say some interesting things... I only read the part about me btw.... However as usual you say stuff but there's only surface thought going on... forget about the thing with me and whoever in the past. It's UNRELATED to this situation in every aspect . I never called his posts spam. Also I wasn't using him as a scapegoat (you can't read minds don't pretend you can- or can you ? if this was the middle ages *sigh) Plus In that thread I was attacked all I was doing was congratulating manick. I did nothing wrong. Also in the age thread .. sorry for that .. I wasn't calm . Are you always calm? I never checked back want me to delete it? Also I contributed to that thread as well. Because you're the Op doesn't give you ownership of the thread. Some of your posts in my threads have pissed the crap out of me yet I held my tongue.

Oy Oy stop assuming you know what people mean. You can't read minds. I never said I had a problem about manick and the reccomendation system. How can you make assumptions like that? All I said was if you are too stupid to figure out how to get manga reccomendations then wait for manick. That's all I never said Manick is taking lon or anything nor did I imply that In fact I have no real concern about a reccomendation system and wouldn't be bothered if it never came since I have some scrap of intelligence to look around a bit click here and there and take the time to read people
s posts. I mean you want something you have to be prepared to work for it right? I'm sorry I don't live in "Instant Gratification" land with the rest of you but what I was taught is "TINSTAAFL" There is no such thing as a free lunch . So people who want you to hand stuff to them and are too lazy to try help themselves are the lowest in my book. If you read this thread from beginning to end you'll see what I mean. He obviously never did any searching of this forum the manga he reads are popular and not the stuff people will really reccomend so... Plus the kinder people than me who tried to teach him to find new mangas (u all wasted your time) in the end were practically ignored by the guy . So before you defend someone know what the actual qualm with them is okay?

Oh and your post is really off topic now (*cough suggestions). I was just replying so i'm not to blame hmm I have nothing else to say. Honestly your taking the time to check up on my posts before you started your criticism is flattering thank you for wasting your time on me. Thanks again. Go listen to working class hero by lennon . It's my song for the day Thank you again for your kind words
Farewell


EDIT: (Since you added more stuff about me) (I have a gf well sort of so stop stalking me XD ) Hmm well I sincerely meant that apology to Mr. Rillel from the bottom of my Heart. I didn't know it would be seen as sarcasm. I'm so sorry you saw it that way . I mean the apology. As for the annoying comment: that too was sincere I would honestly like to know it's a hobby of mine really. As for the locked thread I was merely asking a question there I have no control over threads i'm a poor and lowly manga fan .. that's all. I love manga and hate dummies . That's all. I asked cause similar threads were locked rightfully so and this one not. I realize that's cause he told us what manga he likes. I realized after and I don;t like editing my posts unless necessary. As for pming. Noooo >.< The admins will eat me alive . No thanks. I don't get along well with authority

Anything else about my words/self you hate and want to comment on? I appreciate your efforts to help a poor soul like myself attain enlightenment I will remember you forever for it I swear on.. this rock next to me .

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I'll admit I probably didn't always reply to everything that ticked me off either (thought I'll admit that more recently I'm not totally like that...). And even though I mentioned that the thread that I saw you vent in was a thread I started, I wasn't totally annoyed by that I started that thread and you brought negativity to it but it's like dragging baggage into another thread, and I guess it's spectulation but it was also brought up in another thread when the other one had been locked when I viewed both of them.


I thought usually instant gratification usually came with a (money) price tag. But the whole matter of recommendations are "free lunches" then. Even the whole site is a free lunch and runs on good intentions, right?


Actually, I did crazily enough.


I don't know, I leave that up for the admins and such to maybe decide when a topic is done. This forum actually has a lot of freedom compared to some I've seen that don't even allow people to make new topics.


I ended up reading the Manga-Updated facts thread because I was reading it, not maybe because it was in your last 5 posts.

But otherwise further dicussion between us might need go to PM.

Aww, gee, edit...


I actually had more of a problem with the first have of the apology post quote. I wanted to believe the apology was sincere even though I had doubts (what could I lose other than being disappointed?).

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WOW well your trying to read my mind paid off that is 100% true I won't deny it I was pissed to the max and ire to the core lol And it got locked. Next best thing throw a tantrum. I'm a kid at heart after all XD hehe no excuse that's why i asked if you want me to delete it?



Hmm lol. Nope instant gratification means basically they can't wait or work for anything they want it instantly on a silver platter. Not true the site is free but we are paying with our time. Also we have to search for information. The cost is the effort put into it. The greater the effort the better the result . Hence : only way to get no results= no work done (rillel)


Hehe not crazy i always read from beginning to end only skipping certain posts







No no pms kyaa . Stalkers .. sheesh . jk jk .

Also note : Before you edited your first post you said : for some reason this name doesn't work with the quotes or something along those very lines. That is not true That bbcode (quote) is not linked to the database of members Haha .. sorry... yes you can type anything you like in there actuall watch :




See I just typed in anything into the quote= code XD There's no BoJanglestheman here XD


grr if you keep editing *shakes fist i'll be here all night i's 2 am sigh



Hmm I like to have an air of mystery so i'll leave that question unanswered Was it sincere ? maybe. Was it sarcasm? dunno. One think I do know is I apologized so... not my prob anymore


Here I care not anymore. i more like replying to this personn so here 's some reccomendations even if you don't use them : Love Hina, Samurai Deeper Kyo, Inuyasha, Living Game, Maison Ikkoku , Ranma 1/2 , meh i'll save some for another day


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Seriusly, what's your problem? First of all, almost all the tips i've got from bully_jesus i've already done. Except for the forum part, but the time i could've spend crusing the forum i've been searching for new manga instead.

I've been checking up on you since you're obviusly an expert on finding manga and a very hard worker.
My total manga from reading list, completed list and dropped list exceeds 100.
Yours in the 60s.
So excuse me if i had only read, oh what 100 of the most popular manga? I guess i'm a shallow bastard...

Also, there might actually be a reason why they are popular. Maybe they are good? (OMG, that might actually be the reason! *Sudden shock* )

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hehehehehe ahhhh You make it fun ... you know...
Okay
What you can Fix: Obviusly is spelt Obviously , Seriusly is Seriously . Hahaha

First of all people gave you tips before Bully_Jesus you didn't pay any attention. I doubt you unterstood anyway ( I mean you don't seeem like you did i am not attacking your intelligence). Hmm momst of those hundred are.... well... yeah i'm sorry you are too.

Second don't compare your list with mine. I haven't updated in forever. Wanna know the manga i've read go to the How about a game thread. Every pic i posted was from a different manga i read. Stuff there is in a different league . Plus i'm busy reading manga and scanlating to bother with a list that's of no use to me . The only one that matters is my wish list. Tons of amazing manga there . Some i've read but I still leave it there. Hmm also takiko i don't mind but you better not stalk me.

Yeah they're popular let's face it I like a few popular ones too and some are really good. But face it what's popular on tv? Crappy trash reality shows. So being popular is no determinant of quality .. Understand that first before anything. Also keep reading your popular manga. I don't want your eyes soiling the good stuff.

More popular ones: MxO , Naruto, Gantz, AIR GEAR (This one takes the cake )

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Ok, lets see what you wrote in your last reply luisalirio. I won't want to write the whole thing so i'll simplify it:


My god, you're clearly keeping this argument to the topic. I wonder if it has anything to do with English not being my first language...


With this you clearly prove that you're unable to read between the lines. I chosed Bully_Jesus as an example because he did point out several tips and numbered them.
Do I really have to write all the nicks of people that has given me tips which I have listened to or already done?


I've checked your wish list and to my big surprise i found lots of manga that by your definition should be classified as popular. I've even found lots of manga in your wish list that i'm currently reading. Are you actually a "popular-manga-reader"? Time to come out of the closet and show us who you really are!


Reality shows are trash actually...

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Neither is it mine. Also that was just my own personal annoyance at those two similar words. At least you learned the correct spelling didn't you? That's what a functional person would have done



Um .. no. You clearly show that you are lazy and stupid. blah blah blah. You didn't follow anyones tips up to that point or you wouldn't even need to still be here. You haven't found much have you? hahahaha sooo pathetic...


My wish list isn't public o_0 Anyways. I never said i didn't read popular mangas. I actually said I liked some of them.. Read my post you bastard. And it's true I don't really add the completed series that I download from torrents and read. I just don't add them cause there's no need they're all organized on my pc. If you'd see all the quizzes I've done in the guessing game thread you'd realize i read popular stuff but I read a lot of other stuff as well. Some stuff I read and then lose it somehow I not a super super organized person. I understand my confuzzlement. Also my wish list has a lot of stuff that I put there cause the description sounds good. I may read one page and never touch it again. So... stop assuming stuff. also i read a bit of man hua and man hwa that I don't even know where to put it Lists don't help me much really. I just use it to remember stuff that caught my eye in the series info. Tons of stuff I discover outside mu are not listed there. I often download random stuff from #lurk and evil empire and try it. I'm not lazy . Gems are rare and you need to look to find them. If you don't look you won't No one would share it with you


Reality shows are trash actually... [/quote]

Well I have this thing about media I find is sublime. I have to keep it for myself. In this case it's not so much that it becomes unpopular but that some unworthy fool is out there reading this when they can't truly appreciate it's subtleties and greatness. That's all. Oh yes they are basically trash right... but that's not the point you smelly git..the point is how everything is about making money fast and...ack nvm you won't get it.. you show a serious lack of understanding...What is your native language? Maybe it's that your english sucks? If It's spanish maybe i can...nvm though you just won't get it

Also. I don't appreciate you summarising my words and putting them as quotes. Those are not my words they are yours. Such bad language and filth could never come out of my angellic mouth. Go check yourself at a psychiatrist and ...Thank you.....come again


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*Locked*
And do I really need to say why? Those involved better not repeat this though.